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_{It's embarrassing how often you violate pillars 4 and 5 of wikipedia..... This E-N-C-Y-L-O-P-E-D-I-A is not your personal property, you are not entitled to make up whatever rules KevinMCE deems to be rules.... As you do not know, but should know.... There are no formal rules Also, another pillar you continuously violate is the condescending disrespectful manner in which you treat people.... Instead of trying to help people and make this E-N-C-Y-L-O-P-E-D-I-A better you just remove and erase Clearly there are many, many, many people here much, much smarter than you are.... Including myself..... You're terrible attitude and destructive manner is not appreciated...... It's intolerable, childish, rude, impolite and flat out against the rules..... With this being said.... I just felt it was worth letting you know that you make this E-N-C-Y-L-O-P-E-D-I-A a much much worse place by constantly erasing and never taking the time or effort to edit or rewrite anyone's contributions and instead just erase them. Instead of just erasing every little mistake you find, or telling other people how stupid they are (which is ironic considering your obvious lack of intelligence) maybe you should try being HELPFUL, or fixing edits if you see a mistake instead of just erasing all of it. In closing, I'm clearly stronger than you mentally..... By a considerable margin and am obviously much, much smarter than you..... But maybe if you change your attitude and stop being petty, vindictive and downright rude you will become a better person and someone who actually contributes to this E-N-C-Y-C-L-O-P-E-D-I-A in a meaningful way..... Instead of just violating pillars 4 and 5 over and over and over again People do not come to this E-N-C-Y-C-L-O-P-E-D-I-A to be made fun of by someone who thinks they're so much better than everyone else..... Change your attitude, try helping people, try being polite and friendly and courteous and this E-N-C-Y-C-L-O-P-E-D-I-A will become a better, more productive community for everyone involved Now remove this, don't reply to it because there is nothing someone like you can say or do to ever effect someone as strong as me..... Learn from it..... It's not ok to treat people like scumbags and you are nowhere even remotely close to the smartest person on this E-N-C-Y-C-L-O-P-E-D-I-A know that.... It is indisputable fact Raleigh80Z90Faema69 (talk) 18:47, 22 July 2021 (UTC)}

Thank you for bringing that to my page Raleigh80Z90Faema69 (talk) 19:21, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

You are welcome: it is probably valuable to others interacting with you to be aware of your character. Kevin McE (talk) 19:27, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

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Hello, I'm Joseph2302. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person on Alica Schmidt, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Misplaced Pages has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. If what you're claiming is true, it needs sources to support it, rather than your own research Joseph2302 (talk) 14:42, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

@Joseph2302: Your incredibly condescending message misrepresents the policy, which states that it only needs citation if it is contentious or likely to be challenged, which for an issue that is on every sports results page in the world really didn't seem to be the case. I hope you will give proportionately more grief on the matter to those at WP:DYK who were responsible for publishing material error about her on the Main Page of Misplaced Pages this morning. Kevin McE (talk) 14:58, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

The hook was changed from what I originally suggested, and I'm away, so don't see how I can be expected to check it. And if you're going to change articles, sources are needed. If this had been raised days ago, it could have been fixed in time. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:44, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Sources are not needed to update (which is what I did, I didn't change what was already there apart from the tense and correct verb) if the matter is uncontroversial, and why you choose to treat such a clear fact an contentious I have no idea.

"I'm away, so don't see how I can be expected to check it" How old are you? Because the internet only exists in one place? You are obviously online today, and more invested in this article and its DYK appearance than I am, so yes, it is more incumbent on you than on most to ensure its accuracy, but I had not, at the time you wrote that, said that you should, and only put it in the article talk in response to you saying that I (someone totally unaware of the person until a few hours ago) should have acted on it sooner. Your initial hook proposal was wrong anyway. Kevin McE (talk) 16:23, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

I am away with an unreliable signal and only phone access, and any person could have picked this up to be fixed at any time in the last few days. Trying to blame me because the German Olympic Association made a late change to their teams is just unfair- anyone could have updated the page, and asked for correction of this nomination. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:54, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

The only things I have blamed you for is a snooty message on my talk page, failing to understand the concept of contentious matter, and not recognising the difference between qualification and selection. I am not aware that any of those things can be blamed on a poor internet connection. Kevin McE (talk) 17:08, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

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I saw the "waiting for an apology" on the article talk and believe it doesn't belong there, as having nothing to do with the improvement of the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:12, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

I understand that (although it was his attempt at justification that I was waiting for), but if somebody makes an accusation then there are only two possible follow-ups that person can make if they have any self respect: justification with evidence or retraction with apology. Kevin McE (talk) 10:39, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

I deduct that I have no self-respect because arbcom labelled me an infobox-warrior (without evidence) and I never asked them for an apology, listening to the great Shock Brigade Harvester Boris, both his essay on arbitration and his 10 rules (further down on the page) beginning:

1. You and your problems are not the most important thing in the world.
2. Choose your battles. Yield when it doesn’t matter, and stand your ground when it does. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:21, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

It is whoever makes the accusation without justification who is without respect, not the person on the receiving end, so not you. I am exactly following rule 2, because I believe that false accusation does matter. Kevin McE (talk) 12:22, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for clarification of what I read too fast, and for support. Back to Karl Heinz Bohrer, another case of a subject who had deserved a better article while alive, but came to my attention only in death. Two of those on the Main page right now. I have too little time to request apologies as long as content is missing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:54, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.— Maile (talk) 17:08, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Please never ping me again. I have made my points properly and carefully, so have nothing further to say to you. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:36, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

So you are happy to be known to be an irresponsible, insincere coward who makes accusations without being willing to even try to state the basis for the accusation. Noted and mentally logged for future reference. Kevin McE (talk) 23:18, 6 August 2021 (UTC)