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| *'''Delete''' as redundant to other articles and a POVFORK. The opening is NPOV, but the section about the right wing whining that the story is being covered up is quite POV. Rather than focus on the 50 former intelligence officials who tagged this as a "Russian information operation", the focus goes to ] criticizing them, even while he celebrates a deprecated source in ] and one that probably should be deprecated in ]. Nothing is presented about the refutation of allegations, such as that are readily available. – ] (]) 16:37, 15 August 2021 (UTC) | |||
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This article is redundant to Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory among others. soibangla (talk) 16:00, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep this is an independently WP:NOTABLE controversy that is out of the scope for Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory, as it is currently named. This controversy is reported by RS to involve 1) the Democratic party which - on behalf of Joe Biden - denied an allegation that is possibly supported by laptop data, 2) a group of 50 former intelligence professionals who made the widely publicised but unsubstantiated claim - during the 2020 election - that this laptop is part a Russian information operation and 3) elements of the mainstream media are allegedly suppressing this story due to lack of access to primary data - just like they did with another topic we all know about - and 4) Federal officials delaying "actions" so as not to adversely effect the outcome of the 2020 elections in favor of alleged Russian's goals. I created this article in good faith because I read the sources referenced here and also read the comments of multiple editors on the Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory talk page who do not believe its claims are verifiable or neutral. I would agree to a merge this page with that page if it is renamed as Biden–Ukraine controversy, or something similarly neutral, and reworked to reflect more up-to-date sources. CutePeach (talk) 16:13, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- What did the Democratic party deny that is
possibly
supported by the laptop data?50 former intelligence professionals who made the widely publicised but unsubstantiated claim...that this laptop is part a Russian information operation
significantly misrepresents what they actually said. Here you sayI am new to this subject
yet this obvious POVFORK article was created. Consequently I now recommend WP:SPEEDY soibangla (talk) 16:33, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- What did the Democratic party deny that is
- Delete/merge - The content in this article is DUE in the same exact proportion as content on the Biden-Ukraine conspiracy theory article. It just uses more controversial sourcing (Newsweek, NY Post, etc), and has a title that appears to make this conspiracy theory more plausible than is warranted. I would even go so far as to say this article is a POVFORK of Biden-Ukraine conspiracy theory. I don't believe it has notability independent of that theory, and it is never mentioned outside of that theory in our RSes. Ergo, should be deleted, and any non-redundant DUE NPOV content should be merged into a new section of Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory.--Shibbolethink 16:15, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Redundant with Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory, and possessing a stilted title that makes for an unlikely search term. XOR'easter (talk) 16:20, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. Shibbolethink 16:22, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Conspiracy theories-related deletion discussions. Shibbolethink 16:22, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete as redundant to other articles and a POVFORK. The opening is NPOV, but the section about the right wing whining that the story is being covered up is quite POV. Rather than focus on the 50 former intelligence officials who tagged this as a "Russian information operation", the focus goes to Holman W. Jenkins Jr. criticizing them, even while he celebrates a deprecated source in WP:DAILYMAIL and one that probably should be deprecated in WP:NYPOST. Nothing is presented about the refutation of allegations, such as Biden campaign denials that are readily available. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:37, 15 August 2021 (UTC)