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Image:Abigail brittney hensel twins.jpg
Hey, thanks for uploading this image. But I believe we can foster Misplaced Pages goal to promote free content even more if we produce a free alternative for this image. Do you know about someone with enough drawing skills to produce an equivalent diagram based on the information on this one (and the info on the article and it's sources)?
And according to our policy, we avoid any replaceable unfree material. But, of course, thanks again for the initiative to help. Keep on the good work. --Abu Badali 15:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Privacy
Please see this edit summary of mine. What you did was out of lines and what /b/ does shouldn't affect this. The pictures were not meant for public viewing. Also read WP:BLP. Yanksox 01:49, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Re: Abigail and Brittany Hensel
I added a comment replying to your question. -Penwhale | Blast the Penwhale 13:44, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
hensel pic
The issue isn't who the picture is OF, but who owns it. If Ansel Adams takes a picture of Tom Cruies's car at the mall and you steal it and put it on wikipedia, it's Ansel Adams who has a right to get pissed off; Tom Cruise doesn't have anything to say about it. In this case, the Hensels owned the photo in question, so that was why they got to make the decision, not because it was a picture OF them.
see my comment on the hensel article talk page about the Life mag pic Faye Kane 03:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
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re Image:Abigail brittney hensel twins.jpg
I have deleted this image because:
- Although Life magazine no longer exists, the Time-Warner corporation certainly does, and holds the copyright.
- This is, in my opinion, too much information for a fair use image. Fair use text may be quoted in small amounts to help illustrate, but may not be copied in in paragraph-size blocks to help create the substance of the article. In the same way, this image doesn't just illustrate, but forms a significant part of the substance to the article. This is why the magazine cover illustration may be fair use, but this image is not, in my opinion.
- It would be very difficult to replace this with a free image, but not utterly impossible.
Sorry. If you think this image was deleted in error (which is certainly possible), you may take the issue to WP:DRV. Thank you for your work on the Misplaced Pages, cheers, Herostratus 05:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
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Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks
Hi. Please remember to avoid attacking the character of other contributors. This, for instance, is completely unacceptable. Jkelly 03:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
re Image:Abigail brittney hensel twins.jpg
I've restored the image, and listed it at Misplaced Pages:Images and media for deletion/2007 January 31#:Image:Abigail brittney hensel twins.jpg. This page is seriously undermanned and I doubt that much useful discussion will be generated. If no resolution is reacherd here, I will feel duty-bound to delete the image as copyright violation, sorry. I do recognize your good intentions in trying to make the article the best it can be.
Basically, we don't use copyrighted material. Yes, an exception is made for for fair use images, but even that is made reluctantly and defined as narrowly as possible, and the Foundation would like to - and may, in the future - get away altogether from fair-use images.
And this is not a publicity photo that is given away for free to publicize someone (and even those generally are not allowed). This is a drawing that cost Time-Warner a lot of money I'm sure, and that they would most likely be unhappy to see passed around on the internet.
All this is because a bedrock principle of the Misplaced Pages is that any part of it may be re-used by any person for any reason at any time. This is considered by the Foundation to be more important then that the Misplaced Pages be of the highest possible quality. I recognize that deleting this image would detract from the article and therefore from the encyclopedia, but this is the policy of the Foundation, for good or ill. I myself find this maddening at times but you can't fight city hall.
As you say "It is quite impossible , absent drawing one yourself". Well, we do have artists around. You can make a request at Misplaced Pages:Requested pictures, although of I do recognize that realistically this probably won't work. But I\if no volunteer artist can be found, and if a detailed anatomical drawing of the twins is deemed essential enough to the 'pedia, then the Foundation should commission one, and absent that we shouldn't steal Time-Warner's work.
Again, thanking you for your contributions, and sorry we have to butt heads over this... Herostratus
Talk:Abigail and Brittany Hensel
I have completely removed this section from this page; talk page guidelines require that all discussion remain focused on the article and not on the contributors thereto. Further, we must ask that you read and understand civility guidelines and avoid making personal attacks against other editors.
Finally, we point you to Misplaced Pages policy on the fair use of images and other media and where and how to use them. Many Misplaced Pages editors are working diligently—and, usually, correctly—to remove media that could potentially expose the project to legal action.
Thank you for understanding, and we hope you will take the time to read policies and guidelines, put in place to make us all better editors. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 15:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)