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Welcome! and Hi. I see you have added Raimondi to the basses! We need an article on this wonderful singer. I wonder if you would have time to contribute one? - Kleinzach 08:13, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

baking oven

Why delete this article, it is expandable with "household" oven pictures, which are not completely un-important. The oven article would get hudge...
Probably you may suggest to delete split-articles of transformer for deletion as well - the time when i have created them.
Adds nothing - this is not a reason for deletion - check Afd policies which say a stub of just a few lines is not a deletion reason.
It is not an unexpandable dictionary definition.
If you suggest other tiny articles (of mine) for deletion, not related to policies, then i do not take it (see CTR-L my signature).
Looks you are new here, you should read the policies if you haven't already. Akidd dublin•tl•ctr-l 09:52, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

• The Baking oven includes no information, just verbiage. You insist that it is the only place where food preparation is mentioned, but that is simply wrong. And even if it wasn't, the solution to an omission in an article is not to create a new article with the missing information. Add it to the Oven article. The suggestion that people use the phrase Baking oven instead of just Oven in English is wrong and absurd.Fnarf999 15:29, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Yuo are not wrong. However i thought it right, because other oven pages already do exist, such as microwave oven, industrial furnace, which do not do any baking! It is not only the question of spoken english, also how is it called by manufacturers, or the technically exact label. I do not mind extending the oven article, thought it better to keep it short. People might search for "baking oven"? It does not really do damage. I do not insist on things, if people show up new/good arguments. Sometimes i try to defend a position. User:Akidd_dublin 9 may 2006

No English speaker would ever, ever search for "baking oven". The phrase does not have independent meaning. They might search for the two terms together in a boolean sense but not as a phrase. No one has ever gone into an appliance store or restaurant supply store and asked to purchase a "baking oven". The phrase does not exist. If your familiarity with English idioms prevents you from understanding that, perhaps you should not edit the English Misplaced Pages pages. Fnarf999 00:43, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Let's say "an oven for baking purpose". Some oven's are not baking anything. I do not know the terms, computer chip chemicals go through an oven, but it is not called baking. look: a baking oven company! www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/IN-suppliers/Baking_Oven.html

• Unless you are website owner, you should not make assumptions about search terms that other people are using.
• www.mems-exchange.org/equipment/E1298/ I am going to proove a point, but i was not wrong forehand, and you started it. Akidd dublin•tl•ctr-l 08:42, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

low quality of my edits

I was more sucessful with MiniDisc and Yahoo! Groups. Sometimes i try to rework articles, which are made up from confusing grammar, especially to ordinary people (End-user_computing). I do not believe this is real OR, just not well enough spelled out. This is probably a term used within Artificial_Intelligence. Other times i must be careful not to misunderstand people for computer terminals: they are not programable. User:Akidd_dublin 9 may 2006

• Here you go again. I have absolutely no idea what any of this paragraph is supposed to mean. I have a great deal of personal experience in communicating with people who are speaking English as a second language, but they usually make more sense than you¹. If you have reworked articles according to your comprehension of English, those articles need to be repaired post-haste. I have looked at your edits in Yahoo! Groups, for instance, and they are profoundly illiterate, with errors of comprehension, expression, and duplication. Fnarf999 00:46, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Dont know. The duplication does not matter, and is even required. Some people absolute dislike tables. Otherwise pushing the data into sentences looks bad. At least i can emulate sentences from books i have read. This does not always meet the low quality, or reverse, university requirement of some. ¹What you spell could be interpreted as personal attack. Probably it is enough writing for a while. If you recognize something personal, unrelated of my writing, you don't have to keep it. If you don't know Yahoo! groups, then you should not edit it, except correcting spelling. I have not written the sentences (in that article), that's the way i found it. ¹Some native americans wrote remarkable style/sentences here on wikipedia. We leave it at this point. Akidd dublin•tl•ctr-l 08:24, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Aztec calendar

I do not see a real reason for removal (no advert), Aztec Calendar.
Do you have anything to do with this article? You might consider to take a look the village pump (Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(policy)), real social dynamics, and try to bite them for deletion. It gets deleted after a week automatically. If you do not like this writing, then please refrain from attacking my edits.
If you just attack my edits, and do not write to my talk page, i do not believe that's the way it goes here.
You are welcome to express your concerns about bad edits there: Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(policy), or where it suits otherwise (Misplaced Pages:Village_pump).
If you continiue attacking my edits, i am going to write about you, there.
This has no threat meaning, but it looks you really browsed a list of contributions, which i created myself... Akidd dublin•tl•ctr-l 10:20, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

• The reasons for removal are simple: you're not supposed to insert external links to web pages that you yourself have created. It's immaterial whether there are "adverts" in the page. If the information in your page is compact, interesting, valuable, and not original research, then it belongs in the page, not elsewhere. Misplaced Pages is not a collection of links.Fnarf999 15:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
• What on earth does "no threat meaning" mean? That's not English. And frankly it does sound like some kind of threat, of what I can't imagine. I did browse your contributions, because I stumbled across a couple of them that indicated a stylistic problem which I have described elsewhere. You insist on arguing small inconsequential points that make no sense. For example, in Talk:Red hair, the business about the Gaiety Theatre and Cockney slang -- the information you added is both wrong and completely irrelevant -- as irrelevant as a recipe for ginger cookies would have been. Misplaced Pages is not nonsense.Fnarf999 15:35, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, i caused that some passages of the Red_hair article vanished overnight. It made me both happy, and a bit of sad for the author. But wikipedia is not a platform for the politics of "special population groups", especially spreading their data into various articles. The formula means, i do not have an intention of creating threads against anyone. If the village pump is used for arguments, this is much better: after 7 days it gets deleted automatically.

Misplaced Pages is not a link directory. An article is allowed to have a tiny link section, see matsuri, even more of it makes sense. It is difficult to copy my calendar table into the article, anyway if i keep the color coding it looks very remarkable. This is legal (to use html), but there is recommendation to use it sparingly.

I don't want to argue about the Gaiety_Theatre stuff anymore. It is gone from the article. I believe its name has something to do with the original french word. They aren't q-uea at all. I really try to do correct spelling/grammar, and reading your critics, i try my best (see superstition, i plan to rewrite it). Lucky for me you have produced cooled down replies, and not more forest-fire.User:Akidd_dublin

• • I'm sorry, Akidd dublin, I've tried, but I really can't make any sense out of the things you say. What is q-uea? What made you originally think that an article about red hair was a good place to speculate about the origin of the Gaiety Theatre in Dublin? You ask others to check a dictionary, but you refuse to read or understand one yourself: the origin of the word "gay" in either of its primary meanings is (a) not in dispute by rational persons; (b) not connected with the Gaiety Theatre in any way shape or form and (c) not connected with RED HAIR in any way shape or form. I have no idea what you are referring to by "the formula" or "special population groups". Your inability or refusal to communicate by use of English as she is spoken is extremely frustrating to me, as it means I cannot convey to you why your edits are so poor. But poor they are. Fnarf999 00:40, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

How many times people wrote this un-word? A "special population group" was that sentence of a boygroup representative, giving an interview answer "Our products are not designed for special population groups". It is not really required to state the preceeding question, is it? Try a dictionary to understand this word better: dictionary.reference.com. I do not deserve this discussion, neither do articles like do deserve defame composed of ghey things. It would make more sense to link to skeletor and the hulk. Even if it does not annoy, it really would be non-sense. They plan to coca-colonize everything.

Some countries do not do ghey' topics in their internet, and that's where i am relating from. The way it is looks great disrepair to me, even if i am a non-native of North America. It was my goal to get it removed from the article, and this has happened, So what? If you see a nike advert showing a redhead person, please put it to the article.

I do not like it (see The Hulk) to get attributes like inabillity attached. I have explained the population groups well enough. If you are not happy with this long writing, then delete it.

I'm sorry, Akidd dublin, I've tried, but I really can't make any sense out of the things you say. What is q-uea? see MEOW, BOW-WOW and GWAO. Try to spell until understanding possible. How about WAGO (spelled that way in a television game) Akidd dublin•tl•ctr-l 09:43, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Unique facts about Yahoo! Groups - your edit

This was not my writing. It has not bothered my neither. Can we try to write few line only (if at all). I do not have the time to go through the article again.
---I have put a new writing to the village pump, and created a page, where anyone can add examples for weak language. Like the passage you edited out from Yahoo! Groups. That's neither right nor wrong, if you feel need be. Akidd dublin•tl•ctr-l 14:44, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

you could withdraw the baking oven Afd (because there are so many)

But if you add off-topic or repetitive nonsense, these edits must be removed - looks like high-school. sorry i am not high-school. possibly i would add off-topic or repetitive nonsense in the future. your are not my parent. Akidd dublin•tl•ctr-l 17:50, 10 May 2006 (UTC) Again, I have no idea what you're talking about. High school? I agree, I am not your parent. That is what is so frustrating about my complete failure to communicate with you. Fnarf999 18:02, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know how to communicate with you, to get you to see where your numerous mistakes lie.

Let us try to be members of one and the same community? You suggest numerous mistakes, but i am happy to see you are attempting to communicate seriously. I have done some tests at www.psychologytoday.com - they are free. It is the leading american psychology magazine. It has helped me. Probably it helps you too - to understand others better. If you put my edit mistakes to that page (in the user space), i can try no to repeat the mistakes. I am sorry for any misunderstanding. Akidd dublin•tl•ctr-l 18:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I do not need psychological testing, especially not from a stupid mass-market magazine (PT is not the "leading american psychology magazine"). But if you want examples, start with the summary of your last contribution: what does i do look ordinary nike mean? It's not an English sentence. I never said anything about the way you look, I have no earthly idea or interest in what you look like and I cannot fathom why you would bring it up. Fnarf999 19:32, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

This has got to be the funniest thing I have ever read.

The descision if you need this is, is up to you. If you write you don't, then you don't. Guess american HipHop isn't correct english as well. You can consider how i look (before writing about me), because it is not too bad.

I am not saying you need psych testing. I have only said: It helped many. The online tests are free of charge. Akidd dublin•tl•ctr-l 13:16, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to explain what American hip-hop has to do with this discussion. If you are suggesting that hip-hop justifies non-Standard English in Misplaced Pages, you are wrong.Fnarf999 17:36, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Fnarf999

I am not interested to work together with you right now.
I would like to let you know, that i do not display, or even edit, the articles you contribute to.
Unless You, i am not getting personal.
I would like to ask you politely, not to edit articles (especially you found through my user space) which you do not have a full understanding of.
You have explictely prooved rude behaviour and lack of sense by one of your last edits. Akidd dublin•tl•ctr-l 13:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

You are referring to my edit to . What I did was remove an inappropriate html table of links that you added to an already link-heavy article. There were 14 external links in the article, and nine of them were in your table. You have been told many times that Misplaced Pages is not a link farm. Please notice that after you reverted my edit, an administrator immediately wiped out all of your links as well as several of the others.

Your edits to matsuri are inappropriate to Misplaced Pages. One doesn't have to know anything about matsuri to see that or to correct it. Fnarf999 17:33, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

You aren't alone here. If other people like your contribution, that's not my affair. I would like you to take back this expression, and refrain from further expressions in that style. Written reply not neccessary. What you write speaks on it's own, without knowing your age group. Probably someone else can explain it to you. Akidd dublin (abandoned 5/2006) 13:58, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Akidd dublin

Please note that Akidd dublin (talk) vandalised comments that you left for him, changing the words that you left. I reverted the vandalism but thought you should be kept aware. --Yamla 14:02, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

User subpage

Hello. While I sympathise with the fustration of dealing with the language difficulty issues, I think it would be better if you deleted the sub page User_talk:Fnarf999/Akidd, as creating a page dedicatated to issues with one user is unhelpful to fostering a good enviornment, in the same way that User:Akidd dublin/cleanup/they toldme wasn't. As this page was deleted by creator request, I suggest that you do the same. Regards, MartinRe 16:59, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you're right, and I will do so immediately. I created it as a reference to the many remarks of his, but I shouldn't have created it in Misplaced Pages. I'll take it offline. Fnarf999 17:10, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Cheers, that's cool. Thanks. MartinRe 17:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Followup, as per your request on another talk page, to delete a page without an Afd, you can use the speedy delete process (see WP:CSD for what criteria this can be used for) In this case, all you have to do is add {{db|owner request}} to the page, and an admin will drop by shortly and delete it. (Ps I'm not an admin myself) Regards, MartinRe 17:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

(This is not related to wikipedia anymore) You are not neccessarily entitled to write about individuals. You do not own one line of my weblog. You are welcome to visit it/to publish the address of it, if you believe this makes sense. I would like to let you know, that Akidd_dublin is not longer taking communication. It has been abandoned. It is not because your unwanted communication. I had it in mind before that. It is not required that you safeguard my new articles, as it looks you are still new nere. At this place, i would like to discourage you to put further effort into the affair (i assume called VENDETTA by you), and the subject of evealuting my personal cyberspace (websites). You can do so (this means you are entitled to scroll my websites) within the TOS (terms of service) of your internet provider, of yahoo! inc., and other service providers. I hope there is no mistake within this decleration of non-interest, no-belong etc. Akidd dublin (abandoned 5/2006) 18:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Sure, sure, anything you say, Yy-bo. No mistake at all. But, you know, if you don't want people to read your blog, you shouldn't put it on the internet. 24.22.172.60 18:16, 12 May 2006 (UTC)24.22.172.60 18:17, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I consider this pointless. People (in north america) can put their troubles to a weblog. I have desgined it to be un-personal. I do not invite fnarf999 to my new account. i can put other things to my weblog. i can put nearly anything to my weblog. it does not have to play wikipedia. personal worries should not carry one here. I have put my blog on the net. People can read it. It is not written for anyone. I have written two new articles. you (IP) do not have much claims about these new blog articles. just because they are not talking about you.

I suggest you write an own weblog. I am not taking ADDITIONAL TALK about the topics which were touched. You are not invited to my blog. I can switch off comments. Akidd dublin (abandoned 5/2006) 18:59, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure you don't have to be in North America to write a blog! May I just point out that you are commenting HERE on my talk page, not on your blog, and I am responding to you HERE, not on your blog. Have I left comments on your blog? No.

If you have intelligible, constructive comments to make, make them. Fnarf999 19:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

• Fnarf999, I am sorry for what happened. I have changed my user account, and that's all I can do for now. I have found this today: Misplaced Pages:Staying_cool_when_the_editing_gets_hot. I have missed to do so. You are welcome to read my WEBLOG. However, it is indeed not USA, but UK (United Kingdom). You have been an inspiration for me to make (write) new entries. They are not personal, and not meant to hurt anyone. I am a friendly person. However i consider Akidd_dublin as abandoned. I just thought it suitable for you (or anyone else) to put communication to a blog. I can really write non-sense on my blog, and i do not hurt policies. Again, i do not wish to have worries with you, or anyone else. I do not mind BBS history. My english is not impossible to understand. It is not full of mistakes. My new articles are not unsuitable in style, quality. They are not non-sense.
  
• I am sorry for any non-sense, and would like to express hope, that people improve their personality, and that people may come to a better understanding of others. I do not take what happened personally. I will take more care using my new account. If you know anything about my new articles, then you can try TO ADD to them. However i do not explicitely invite you. The possibility to blog indeed differs from country to country! American's have archieved a high level of publicing democrazy. Some countries don't. Most new web services are introduced to American's. That's the meaning, it has nothing to do with your person, your edits to other articles i never have seen. Akidd dublin (abandoned 5/2006) 13:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Your account certainly is busy for one that's been "abandoned". Akidd, I have never attacked you personally. I have only attacked your specific editing and other writing. Your English is, in fact, impossible for others to understand. I have seen dozens of examples of edits by you that others could not make any sense of. In some cases your edits have required reverting back to equally poor or even inaccurate versions simply because your version, while technically correct, was not understandable. You have also created many new pages that are not up to Misplaced Pages standards, or any standards. And these problems are caused not by your lack of understanding but by your lack of English skills.

Low quality edits by user with poor English skills case notes

• I've followed this situation and painfully reviewed his edits. I share your frustration and wish he could be reasoned with. There's no doubt however that Akidd has the potential to be a useful contributor (even if he should probably be working over at Japanese Misplaced Pages, or whatever his native language is), and in the wiki spirit we should try to do whatever we can to defuse the situation and see if we can reform him. With that in mind it would probably be best for you to limit or eliminate your interaction with him completely as soon as possible -- not because you've realy done anything wrong but just because it seems like there's little to be gained other than more personal attacks if you both continue. — GT 18:02, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

travail en perruque

Thank you for your interest. I quite agree with your answer. Within this text you find some translation in english linguage of a social approche, made by a specialist of social things.. In fact, it is true that is applying ( for a long time ) to workers in mechanics. If you read my page travail en perruque in french Wikipédia, you will discover it is done todays in software industry ( le travail en perruque chez Apple). If you want to write something with the french expression, you can. But, except making some copies at work at your office, don't tell me it's only a french technique ! It is a mondial pratique ! But chut...! It is a secret. A Polichinelle secret...

I hope you will make something, even with the french words. Bye. --Barbetorte 17:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Mediation requested

Hi, Fnarf999. User:Yy-bo has requested a mediation about some disagreements you have had. You can find it here. I am mediating the case, which means I am willing to look at both sides and try to figure out what is going on and how we can resolve the impasse. Please feel free to comment under "discussion" on the mediation page. Cheers, David L Rattigan 18:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Helping your case was no problem. Yy-bo can't seem to admit his language difficulties. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 20:25, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Edgovan20

Thanks for your comments about Edgovan20. While he is certainly engaging in personal attacks against me and has in the past used personal attacks on other people, I'm boundlessly optimistic in my hopes that he'll settle down now. If I catch him making any further personal attacks, I'll go for a block at that point. For now, though, I'm hoping he can be satisfied with his rather strange comments on his user page and talk page. Thanks, though, I'll certainly call on you if he steps up his attacks again. --Yamla 18:34, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Gall adelgid

Hey Fnarf999,

Good Call! i think you're right about the capital. This article started because i wasn't sure what these things were are started searching the internet for info. There is no article on conifer aphids either. I have considered doing a large writing on Quadrupole Ion traps, my area of research in undergrad, but i've always liked bio myself.

My largest writing before that is in lassa fever, under a vaccine developped at USAMRIID. P. Jahrling gets mention in the Hot Zone and Demon in the Freezer by Richard Preston.

I am a science B.Sc. from Calgary. (Dan 20:48, 7 June 2006 (UTC))

Actually, I am not happy with one or two of the images. They need improvement. I could capture better examples. There is no article on Cooley Spruce either...

The problem with this image is that it, strictly speaking, may not be a tuff from adelges cooleyi. Although it is a good picture of my thumb. ;-) If you see: it is hard to tell.

If i remember to, i can try and get a shot of what the aphids look like before the leave the galls, like the cross section shown here:

(Dan 20:58, 7 June 2006 (UTC))

Football contributions

Hi. I wanted to thank you for all your work on football articles, most especially the World cup related ones. I noticed you created a lot of missing articles for goalscorers of the earliest world cups. Keep up the good work, and let me know if I can be of any assistance. Cheers - ChaChaFut 01:00, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

The Sankey Canal IN ENGLAND

I note that you are in Seattle, USA. You are, therefore, over 5000 miles from the Sankey Canal, in England. I am half a mile from the Sankey Canal, in England, and have been for the past forty nine years. I see the signs which say 'The Sankey Canal' every day. I KNOW what the Sankey Canal is OFFICIALLY called. I have read the recorded history of the Sankey Canal, from it's survey in 1754 onwards. The St.Helens canal referred to, is actually the St.Helens Branch, an extra length of canal built some eighteen years after the Sankey Canal first opened, joining St.Helens to the Sankey Canal. The Ordnance Survey may refer to the St.Helens canal on their maps due to assumption, caused by their reference to personally opinionated writings, like Misplaced Pages has become. You, yourself, only know what you have read, and that is 'St.Helens Canal', and so do a lot of other people, worldwide. Until the true facts are shown, people all over the world, who know no better, will all believe the wrong information. The same thing happens with much more important matters than the name of a canal, due to people believing what they read, without question. I disagree strongly with your comment ... "It is more important to be verifiable than it is to be correct". Also, American English is gramatically different to English, so please refrain from correcting script which is only wrong by opinion.

Please take a look at a site by some local enthusiasts, the 'Sankey Canal Restoration Society', http://www.scars.org.uk Some of the things they say on there are, again, not true fact but are very close. May I say that the site contains 'truisms' ?

• Let's face it. You just haven't a clue about the Sankey Canal, have you? I would suggest that you stick to what you know in future. The Sankey Navigation was passed as an Act of Parliament in 1754 giving rights to construct a navigable watercourse along the Sankey Brook. Permission was granted and was titled the Sankey Navigation Act. On it's opening, the name was changed to Sankey Canal as it was constructed alongside the Sankey Brook instead of along the same course. These facts are historically recorded. I can appreciate your belief in the O.S. but, unfortunately, they are WRONG in this case. You see, people will always believe what they read, thinking it is fact. The Sankey Canal is claimed to be the first canal in Britain on many sites, however it was not. The Bridgewater Canal is also claimed to be the first canal in Britain, again it is not. But people believe these things, simply because they are repeatedly given the same, wrong, information. Misplaced Pages is FULL of false facts and cannot be taken seriously. I have tried to put these right, but only what I KNOW is right, ie. articles about my immediate area. I wouldn't attempt to try to tell YOU anything about Seattle, as I have never been there and know nothing about the place. Finally, I couldn't care less what the O.S. call the canal, it's OFFICIAL TITLE is the 'Sankey Canal'. 80.192.242.187 23:18, 31 January 2007 (UTC) JemmyH.

AND, THE WAY YOU REFER TO THE MEMBERS OF THE SANKEY CANAL RESTORATION SOCIETY AS A 'COLLECTION OF CRANKS WHO GET ANNOYED AT IT BEING CALLED THE ST.HELENS CANAL' IS VERY CHILDLIKE. THE ONLY REASON THAT I HAVE CORRECTED THE NAME IS THAT IT IS WRONG. LIKE I SAID EARLIER, STICK TO WHAT YOU KNOW. YOU SEEM TO BE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS A LOT ABOUT A LITTLE AND LITTLE ABOUT A LOT. ARROGANT SPRINGS TO MIND. 80.192.242.187 23:30, 31 January 2007 (UTC) JemmyH.