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Film intro in the plot?
It's arguable a synopsys of the first 5 minutes of the film should go into the Plot section. While they don't form part of the main story arc, they set the background for rest of the film, and without this the conclusion makes less sense. A potential paragraph is below that, if consensus is found, could go into the article mutatis mutandis. Viewing the film itself will show that there is no analysis, evaluation, interpretation or synthesis here, and we should continue to respect WP:Primary. Chumpih. (talk) 05:20, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose: I don't see how this is necessary to describe the primary thrust of the plot. DonIago (talk) 06:44, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Support: It's a memorable part of the film. It sets the trajectory from the contemporary society to the future world where the bulk of the film occurs. Without this context the rest of the plot makes less sense. The theme of this intro is dysgenics, and 'different types of people'. These themes may be unpleasant, and it is because of this that there should be straightforward summary so readers can understand what the debate is about. Indeed, some of the points elsewhere in the article already reference these themes, which are writ large during the intro. This part of the film is significant. The writers and director felt the inclusion was worthy. Despite the constrained budget, the producers of the film spent money on this part . It should be included in the plot. Chumpih. (talk) 10:35, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
potential paragraph
Human evolution is at a turning-point. Natural selection was no longer rewarding the usual traits of strength or intelligence, and instead was dumbing-down, rewarding those who reproduced the most. A case study: Trevor and Carol (IQ 138 and IQ 141 respectively) remain upbeat while at first delaying, then later struggling and failing to procreate. By contrast, Clevon (IQ 84) cheats on his wife Trish (mother to their several children) with the neighbour Britrney, and later Mackenzie, fathering more children. Even an accident involving a jet ski, an iron gate and his crotch didn't curtail Clevon's reproductive function. Clevon's son, Clevon Jr. (IQ 78) had success on the football pitch and with his female fans, leading to yet more children. Meanwhile Trevor apparently dies of a heart attack in the course of producing sperm for an artificial insemination. Carol's hopes for motherhood seem desperate. However Clevon, through a complicated family tree, was father or grandfather to dozens then hundreds as shown.
- WP:FILMPLOT recommends 400-700 words. As such there is no room to include a long preamble like this, at least not in the plot section. -- 109.76.129.179 (talk) 05:36, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
How does this article NOT reference "The Marching Morons"
Seriously - The Marching Morons wiki specifically mentions Idiocracy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.163.106.73 (talk • contribs)
- WP:SOFIXIT? But notably, the part of the TMM article that mentions this film has no references, and I've tagged it accordingly. DonIago (talk) 19:47, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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