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	What about negative effects or being addicted? ] has never been shown to exist. And the obsessive compulsive diagnosis makes it redundant.		What about negative effects or being addicted? ] has never been shown to exist. And the obsessive compulsive diagnosis makes it redundant.

	DSM-5 code for pornography use? Not any. ICD-10 code for pornography use? Not any. ICD-11 code for pornography use? Not any. So, of course it isn't paraphilia. There is a code for OCD, there is none for pictophilia. ~~] (]) 14:54, 9 October 2021 (UTC)~~		DSM-5 code for pornography use? Not any. ICD-10 code for pornography use? Not any. ICD-11 code for pornography use? Not any. So, of course it isn't paraphilia. There is a code for OCD, there is none for pictophilia.

			On page 705 of DSM-5, pictophilia would have been the most obvious paraphilia to mention, but it did not get mentioned.

			That would have solved the whole dispute about the existence of the porn addiction. There is no consensus that porn addiction exists. ] (]) 15:43, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

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A revert I'm unhappy with

I added the following at the outset: Recently-coined names for paraphilias (abasiophilia, algolagnia, etc.) typically have a Greek origin.

This was reverted by EvergreenFir because it was not documented.

Documentation is not required for items easily verifiable. Anyone who goes to a dictionary can see these terms are coined from Greek. Is a source saying so really required?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Deisenbe (talk • contribs)

Hypnosis as a paraphilia

Here is a recent essay by Distinguished Psychology professor Mark D. Griffiths describing unusual sexual arousal from hypnosis as a paraphilia . It does not appear in the DSM-5 as a paraphilia, but there are a number of case studies in the psychiatric literature that establish the existence of individuals with "experience of intense sexual arousal" to atypical fantasies about hypnosis, e.g.:

To many hypnotic subjects, hypnosis has strong sexual connotations. Freud ( 2 ) recognized this and mentioned the similarity between the states of hypnosis and of being in love. Sciiilder and Kanders(3) stress the erotic aspects of hypnosis and warn that sexual accusations may be made against the therapist. Speyer and Stokvis(4) studied the sexual fantasies of the hypnotic subject, and emphasized the importance of the subject’s erotic attitudes toward the therapist. Lorand(5) pointed out the subject’s unconscious desire for seduction by the hypnotist and correlated hypnotizability with yielding to the one from whom love was expected. Wolberg(6) also mentions the sexual attitude toward hypnosis in patients who have strong unconscious sexual needs. Kline(7) describes some types of sexual reactions during hypnotherapy and discusses their nature.

In a 2017 study, 4% of women in one group freely reported "Sex while drugged/mind control/hypnosis" as a fantasy

It could also be considered a sexual fetish, but paraphilia is an even better fit since the focus is not on a specific object but rather an activity or a set of fantasy scenarios, much like erotic asphyxiation, voyeurism, or Omorashi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrightVamp (talk • contribs)

Those sources are not WP:MEDRS-compliant. Griffiths's commentary is only good enough to relay it as something he thinks, but it still doesn't belong in this article. And we shouldn't be using sources that don't explicitly identify the matter as a paraphilia. Nor should we be using very old sources, such as those from 1957, for this list. And considering all of this, the Erotic hypnosis article needs work. I was correct to revert the content. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 21:56, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

And looking for academic sources on the topic of erotic hypnosis, it seems that the article should not even exist because the topic is not WP:Notable. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 22:01, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

From what I'm hearing, it's important that unusual sexual interests be explicitly labelled a "paraphilia" in a medical text before they should appear on this list, and I have not found such a citation.

Very much agreed that Erotic hypnosis is in a poor state at the moment. Thank you for pointing out that it should have evidence of significant independent coverage. I have added a number of those citations in the Talk page for now, but I will be using their contents to fill in the article. BrightVamp (talk) 06:04, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

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References

Griffiths, Mark D. (2016-12-14). "Hypnosis And Sexual Health". Psychology Today. Retrieved 2020-02-10.
Merrill, George G. (1957). "Sexual complications of hypnosis". Journal of Clinical and Experimental Hypnosis. 5 (3): 138–146. doi:10.1080/00207145708410731.
Yule, Morag A.; Brotto, Lori A.; Gorzalka, Boris B. (2017). "Sexual Fantasy and Masturbation Among Asexual Individuals: An In-Depth Exploration". Archives of Sexual Behavior. 46: 311–328. doi:10.1007/s10508-016-0870-8.

more philias part 2

here is another list I found https://blogjob.com/lifeandliving/2014/08/24/list-of-fetishes/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anayguy (talk • contribs) 20:53, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

here is another list I found https://thoughtcatalog.com/sylvie-quinn/2018/05/sexual-fetishes/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anayguy (talk • contribs) 20:56, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

here is another list I found https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sexual-fetish_n_4144418 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anayguy (talk • contribs) 21:01, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Those are poor sources. See WP:MEDRS. Also, you should learn to sign your comments. And you shouldn't start new sections for every little comment in rapid fire, so I've combined them. Crossroads 21:16, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

The term alphamegamia can be used when a person is sexually aroused by partners of a different age group, and "chronophilia" can describe a sexual fixation on members of a different age group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anayguy (talk • contribs) 20:38, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

"Transvestophila" name change

I have no clue where the name "Transvestophilia" came from, but Transgender people are not Transvestites, so the term to describe fetishism towards Transgender people should be something more along the lines of "Transgendophilia" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.181.142 (talk) 06:46, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Pictophilia

It is medical folklore from bygone days. Diagnosing someone with pictophilia is malpractice. Otherwise we reach the absurd conclusion that about three quarters of US men feeling sexual needs are paraphiles, and so it is the majority of US population which feels sexual needs. In such light, pictophilia is a laughable diagnosis.

What about negative effects or being addicted? Pornography addiction has never been shown to exist. And the obsessive compulsive diagnosis makes it redundant.

DSM-5 code for pornography use? Not any. ICD-10 code for pornography use? Not any. ICD-11 code for pornography use? Not any. So, of course it isn't paraphilia. There is a code for OCD, there is none for pictophilia.

On page 705 of DSM-5, pictophilia would have been the most obvious paraphilia to mention, but it did not get mentioned.

That would have solved the whole dispute about the existence of the porn addiction. There is no consensus that porn addiction exists. tgeorgescu (talk) 15:43, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

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