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	Is there an RS for Heinlein's blood being A2-negative? In a quick search, I could find ''only'' fringe libertarian blogs, and occasional science fiction bios copied from those or Misplaced Pages. Does anyone have an RS, even a good self-source, on this? - ] (]) 14:44, 11 October 2021 (UTC)		Is there an RS for Heinlein's blood being A2-negative? In a quick search, I could find ''only'' fringe libertarian blogs, and occasional science fiction bios copied from those or Misplaced Pages. Does anyone have an RS, even a good self-source, on this? - ] (]) 14:44, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
	:I've requested ''Robert A. Heinlein : in dialogue with his century. Volume 2, 1948-1988'' from the library, which should cover it. ] ] 15:29, 11 October 2021 (UTC)		:I've requested ''Robert A. Heinlein : in dialogue with his century. Volume 2, 1948-1988'' from the library, which should cover it. ] ] 15:29, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
			:Got the book. I found this: {{tq\|Since Robert had an uncommon blood type (universal recipient—Ginny had the even rarer universal donor type), it was almost certain that his life had been saved by the efforts of the National Rare Blood Club he had come across while researching ''I Will Fear No Evil''.}} Web search says universal recipient is AB positive. I'll have to read the whole thing to see if there are any other mentions. ] ] 22:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

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Unfortunately Bill Patterson has passed but I'm honoured he responded to this discussion. I would prefer we like Gifford stick to the actual text of the book rather than claims of supra-text 'context' but I think the best solution is to refer and source the conflicting viewpoints in the entry itself and allow the reader to decide from the sources rather than decide for them as the current entry does. BS6 (talk) 08:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

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I'd prefer we remove the editorializing on either Franklin or Panshin. I think both books are excellent but an article on Heinlein is not the place to insert our personal opinions on their worth. BS6 (talk) 07:44, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

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Sayings of Heinlein - section here or list article ?

There are a number of fairly famous Heinlein sayings said by characters in his stories. Would it be better to have a mention here of that with just the more famous ones, or should it be a list article and go into the less common ones ?

I'm thinking of things like

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
There are no dangerous weapons; there are only dangerous men.
No project is ever completed on time or within budget.
Writing is not necessarily something to be ashamed of, but do it in private and wash your hands afterwards.
Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever.

Cheers Markbassett (talk) 13:01, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

I think you want Wikiquote. --Escape Orbit 13:04, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

"A2 negative"

Is there an RS for Heinlein's blood being A2-negative? In a quick search, I could find only fringe libertarian blogs, and occasional science fiction bios copied from those or Misplaced Pages. Does anyone have an RS, even a good self-source, on this? - David Gerard (talk) 14:44, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

I've requested Robert A. Heinlein : in dialogue with his century. Volume 2, 1948-1988 from the library, which should cover it. Schazjmd (talk) 15:29, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Got the book. I found this: Since Robert had an uncommon blood type (universal recipient—Ginny had the even rarer universal donor type), it was almost certain that his life had been saved by the efforts of the National Rare Blood Club he had come across while researching I Will Fear No Evil. Web search says universal recipient is AB positive. I'll have to read the whole thing to see if there are any other mentions. Schazjmd (talk) 22:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

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