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| ::That makes sense. The ESes still feel a bit too close for comfort for me, and I've run into several cases lately where we did have multiple sox making non-contentious edits to the same articles, but I'll defer to your expertise here. <code>:)</code> I'll just give them all {{tl|uw-agf-assign}} and call it a day, I think. <span class="nowrap"> <span style="font-family:courier">-- ]</span><sup>]'']</sup> (she/they)</span> 06:44, 25 October 2021 (UTC) | ::That makes sense. The ESes still feel a bit too close for comfort for me, and I've run into several cases lately where we did have multiple sox making non-contentious edits to the same articles, but I'll defer to your expertise here. <code>:)</code> I'll just give them all {{tl|uw-agf-assign}} and call it a day, I think. <span class="nowrap"> <span style="font-family:courier">-- ]</span><sup>]'']</sup> (she/they)</span> 06:44, 25 October 2021 (UTC) | ||
| :::Yeah, I'm huge on edit summaries. Usually my go to on behaviour. But at some point I realized all the university/community/outreach/real life people taught everyone who went to their events the same exact edit summaries as defaults and that in regions where there's historically been false positives and where there's a strong community outreach presence (i.e. Africa) it isn't as useful as you'd find in say... AP2 (or is it AP3 now? Idk, I don't arbcom anymore.) ] (]) 06:48, 25 October 2021 (UTC) | :::Yeah, I'm huge on edit summaries. Usually my go to on behaviour. But at some point I realized all the university/community/outreach/real life people taught everyone who went to their events the same exact edit summaries as defaults and that in regions where there's historically been false positives and where there's a strong community outreach presence (i.e. Africa) it isn't as useful as you'd find in say... AP2 (or is it AP3 now? Idk, I don't arbcom anymore.) ] (]) 06:48, 25 October 2021 (UTC) | ||
| == Greeting Carolinan human! == | |||
| I didn't check in for a while. This is to wish good health and good halloween 👻! {{Ping|Praxidicae|Drmies|GeneralNotability}} Your friend, --] (]) 21:35, 25 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
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Ponyo
You seem to be around a little more lately, so I wondered if you knew why Ponyo has been absent for almost three weeks. Usually, if she's going to be on an extended vacation, she says so on her Talk page. I know I could e-mail her, but based on past experience, if she's away from Misplaced Pages, she also doesn't check her Misplaced Pages e-mail. Mildly concerned.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:53, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: An oddly not busy month for me, soon to change, unfortunately. I have not heard from her. I do know that she and I both have been a bit tired of the internal politics of the project (I'm sure you can sympathize), so I might chalk it up to disengaging for a bit. Hopefully everything is okay. If she hasn't been around again before October, I might email. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:39, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).
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- Following an RfC, extended confirmed protection may be used preemptively on certain high-risk templates.
- Following a discussion at the Village Pump, there is consensus to treat discord logs the same as IRC logs. This means that discord logs will be oversighted if posted onwiki.
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- DiscussionTools has superseded Enterprisey's reply-link script. Editors may switch using the "Discussion tools" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features.
Arbitration
- A motion has standardised the 500/30 (extended confirmed) restrictions placed by the Arbitration Committee. The standardised restriction is now listed in the Arbitration Committee's procedures.
- Following the closure of the Iranian politics case, standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, post-1978 Iranian politics, broadly construed.
- The Arbitration Committee encourages uninvolved administrators to use the discretionary sanctions procedure in topic areas where it is authorised to facilitate consensus in RfCs. This includes, but is not limited to, enforcing sectioned comments, word/diff limits and moratoriums on a particular topic from being brought in an RfC for up to a year.
Miscellaneous
- Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
- The community consultation phase of the 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process is open for editors to provide comments and ask questions to candidates.
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Sockpuppet
Hello.
According to the checkuser investigation in UkWiki the account RogueRickC137 (talk · contribs) belongs to the indefinitely blocked user in EnWiki Piznajko (talk · contribs). Please, take appropriate admin actions. --Mykola7 (talk) 20:18, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Done based on the uk.wiki results. The CU log here is 
Possible, but given the timing difference and that the confidence on uk.wiki seems to be pretty conclusive, I'm comfortable admin blocking and letting others decide on appeal. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:16, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
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Relisting query
Hi Tony. Not sure if you saw my ping at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/ASumaila a few weeks ago; I gather you've been busy. Seeing that you've been active a bit the past few days, I just wanted to check in to see if you'd object to me relisting, based on the evidence I've presented there. -- Tamzin (she/they) 02:49, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Tamzin, yes, I've been busy. Oddly, more busy now than I was a month ago, but I came back on to check an RM or two that I thought highlighted some of Misplaced Pages's inherent limitations, and got commenting on other things :).It's been a while and a half on that one, but looking back through what I was doing at the time, I still wouldn't check. Look at the history of this page. That's the editing behaviour of different people. Socks typically don't make non-contentious edits to the same page consecutively: there's absolutely no motivation to do so, and if the technical evidence suggested they were related, I'd actually consider that page strong evidence that they were people at a school or user group working together on a project.The other thing to consider here is what CheckUser evidence would gain. They edit Nigerian topics, which typically means they're from Nigeria, or at least it would be a reasonable guess to assume so. I haven't checked, so no revealing anything here. As a CheckUser, I'm not likely to check anything that's likely from Nigeria without knowing what I'm looking at. It'd be a waste of 30 minutes of CheckUser time to come up
Inconclusive. This is especially the case when the plausible explanation of people working on something together is the suggested by the edit history, because there is a history in African regions of CUs blocking university students and the like because of the internet infrastructure there. There's also a history of sockmasters going to university events so as to hide that they're socking.Tl;dr: there's fairly strong behavioural evidence (in my opinion) that they're different people working together. There's fairly strong behavioural evidence they're from Nigeria. CU has a bad history in Nigeria, and when there's good reason to believe that it's more likely to be people working together than the same person, I'm not going to touch it. Even if just from a practical perspective, it's extremely unlikely I'd be able to confirm anything that you couldn't tell from looking at their edit history—they probably at least know each other and are probably in the same country. Both of those also explain the linguistic similarities you found, by the way. Outreach groups in developing regions tend to teach canned/uniform edit summaries to new editors.Sorry if it's not the answer you were looking for, but this has all the signs of people at a local school/university working together on some outreach effort to promote underrepresented regions, and that's an area where CU has historically not done well. TonyBallioni (talk) 06:14, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- That makes sense. The ESes still feel a bit too close for comfort for me, and I've run into several cases lately where we did have multiple sox making non-contentious edits to the same articles, but I'll defer to your expertise here.
:)I'll just give them all {{uw-agf-assign}} and call it a day, I think. -- Tamzin (she/they) 06:44, 25 October 2021 (UTC)- Yeah, I'm huge on edit summaries. Usually my go to on behaviour. But at some point I realized all the university/community/outreach/real life people taught everyone who went to their events the same exact edit summaries as defaults and that in regions where there's historically been false positives and where there's a strong community outreach presence (i.e. Africa) it isn't as useful as you'd find in say... AP2 (or is it AP3 now? Idk, I don't arbcom anymore.) TonyBallioni (talk) 06:48, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- That makes sense. The ESes still feel a bit too close for comfort for me, and I've run into several cases lately where we did have multiple sox making non-contentious edits to the same articles, but I'll defer to your expertise here.
Greeting Carolinan human!
I didn't check in for a while. This is to wish good health and good halloween 👻! @Praxidicae, Drmies, and GeneralNotability: Your friend, --ㄒ. 乃卂ㄥ口几乇ㄚ (talk) 21:35, 25 October 2021 (UTC)