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== Encyclopedia Dramatica trademark for .wiki ==

Hello,

Editing is now reopened on our site .wiki now that I have technical issues resolved.

In addition I have filed for the Encyclopedia Dramatica Trademark and it's official within databases.

See here for example:
https://app.trademarkengine.com/trademark-detail/90606219

There were rumors of the last admin filing for the trademark before me however it apparently seems that because he's currently in prison they revoked it from him during the application process. - <b></b> 03:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:No I don't think so. Trademarks do not get "revoked" while in prison. Second, the Patent Office's search engine for trademarks are notoriously unreliable. Third, any trademark issued to you would be unenforceable as a matter of law, nobody owns ED. The site was created while you were still in grade school, putting January 2004 as your first use is a joke. ] (]) 21:24, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

::{{Ping|Aediot|Dramatica.online|Bears2077}} None of what has been written here has any impact on the content of this page. The only way this may affect this page is if this claimed dispute were to result in one of the two instances of the page being shut down. Until then, we list both the live instances of Encyclopedia Dramatica. All of you are deeply engaged in a ] and need to stand down from contributing to this page. ''']'''<sub>&nbsp;(]•])</sub> 22:45, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|DarthBotto}} This page has a lot of bad info on it with few citations, and did not adequately represent the .online fork or even the correct domain nor "owners". I supplied citations from the forum, which shows the reasons for the fork and correct date (Nov 2020, not Dec). It's disappointing that these are labeled not valid sources. I see you fixed the content box with the correct domain. I can at least live with that. No other edits are necessary. ] (]) 23:48, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
::::{{Ping|Psiĥedelisto}} Don't you think it's a bad idea to rely on first-party sources for the .wiki version? The reason the .online sources were removed was because they were unreliable first-party ones, as well. So, with the exception of the business filing (that sounds like it is being contested), these two current versions seem to be on equally unreliable ground. ''']'''<sub>&nbsp;(]•])</sub> 19:08, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
:::::{{re|DarthBotto}} I added quite a lot to the page, not just this. I read the existing sources (Stryker) and added more from them, as well as adding new sources (Mitchell). My primary interest in editing the page is the history I added, I just wanted to clean up the current state while here. If the consensus is that there aren't enough sources for ''either'' .wiki or .online, that's fine with me. I see that both admins are on this talk page trying to sway us, and I didn't read the talk page before making my edits so I wasn't thinking about that. ] (] • ]) <sup>please ''always'' ]!</sup> 06:00, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
I've the reference to the LLC registration and the Crunchbase citation, since neither of those are terribly reliable sources (with Crunchbase notoriously making many of its entries automatically with scraped data from who-knows-where). {{ping|Psiĥedelisto}} I agree that there isn't really anything to suggest the .online site is "canonical", but I don't think there's anything to suggest that of the .wiki domain, either. An attempt to find coverage of this in news sources brought absolutely nothing, so I think we might have to just lack an authoritative opinion on this one (at least until one of the sites does something wild enough to get an story written about them somewhere). ''']'''×''']'''
:::::Is the Chris-chan story crazy enough that / on Insider and Yahoo News? --] (]) 12:40, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
::::::Nice. {{User:Viril.Feline.Wyyzrd/sig}} 21:04 2 September 2021 (UTC)

== Dead link ==
It would appear as though Stellmach's version of Encyclopedia Dramatica has been offline continuously for the past several weeks. I propose that we monitor this situation a while longer, (maybe until near the end of August), and if the situation doesn't change, we remove that version as being listed as a competing current one. Naturally, ], which is why we wait. ''']'''<sub>&nbsp;(]•])</sub> 02:08, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

:See ] above. With any site other than ED, going offline for weeks would be unusual. ED has done this in the past and still returned, but I agree that the .wiki version should be regarded as defunct if it hasn't returned by September.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:04, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

:I propose to mark as defunct immediately for the fact that it had gone offline and all the site's content disappeared when it was back online half a year later due to a database corruption. That exact situation occured again here. It can always be reverted if the site still does come back half another year later. ] (]) 22:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

::I agree that it is probably defunct, but since ED has staged miraculous recoveries in the past, it has until the end of the month.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:36, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
:::{{Reply|ianmacm}} I've now removed the designator for .wiki being a current domain for the website. ''']'''<sub>&nbsp;(]•])</sub> 00:25, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
::::OK thanks.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 06:40, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


== What the hell happen to ED.rs == == What the hell happen to ED.rs ==

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What the hell happen to ED.rs

so confused about Encyclopedia Dramacrita.rs got shut down. can OG tell me what happens? Thegibuspyro (talk) 23:39, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

.rs went down in early 2020, which is when Jacob Stellmach brought online .wiki, with the support of the ED staff. For most of 2020, .wiki was the sole host of ED and Wayback can validate this. However, the website went offline frequently and was scarcely functional. So, most of the ED staff separated from .wiki and created .online. Stellmach opposed this and repeatedly insisted that we remove any mentions of .online, which we refused, as we recognized both as hosting the IP. We kept things that way until about a month-and-a-half after .wiki permanently went down. At the start of September, we removed listing .wiki as a current host, as it was clear the status quo wasn't - and hasn't - shifted. That being said, .wiki was at one point the exclusive host of ED, so it wouldn't be factual to remove mentions of it. BOTTO (T•C) 01:15, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

What the fuck? Damn this website can't catch a break Thegibuspyro (talk) 02:42, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

It's amazing that ED is still going in 2021, although this article doesn't point out that much of the former content and images have gone missing due to the various changes of ownership and lack of proper backups.--♦IanMacM♦ 06:59, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Why did RS. go down?

Why did it? to make up space for .wiki? Thegibuspyro (talk) 02:01, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

There are various stories about this that can't be repeated here. TL;DR there was a falling out among the people who do ED. During this period, a lot of ED material went missing due to a lack of proper backups.--♦IanMacM♦ 07:53, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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