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Deletation of ABZY Movies

Hey, why are you deleting my article named ABZY Movies on wikipedia. Please do not delete this article I beg you please🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 do not delete this article and I beg you 🙇🙇🙇🙇 Leofrancis355 (talk) 01:19, 4 July 2021 (UTC) Leofrancis355 (talk) 01:20, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Articles on Misplaced Pages need to be notable which needs to be evidenced by having multiple sources with significant coverage of the subject. The articles you created don't even come close and rather than go through the draft process you pushed them to main article space. Hence the request for deletion. Ravensfire (talk) 04:07, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

RamCharan

Hello Sir! Add RamCharan's Instagram & Twitter accounts. Thank you! Team RamCharan (talk) 06:43, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Team RamCharan, please see WP:NOTSOCIAL. Ravensfire (talk) 13:07, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Why You Are Removing Gymnast Occupation In Siddharth Nigam Misplaced Pages

Siddharth Nigam is a professional Gymnast please don't remove the profession gymnast as his occupation He is an professional actor , gymnast & dancer Kishmish Hu Main Ok (talk) 03:13, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Kishmish Hu Main Ok, a professional gymnast is one who's actively competing in professional level competitions or shows. That's not met by the sources. Ravensfire (talk) 15:00, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Wanted you to check a few sources.

Hello! I wanted you to check these few sources and let me know that whether I could add them to Avneet Kaur's wikipedia page - media section. Kindly do tell me which ones from these 6 I could add which ones I can't (if any). Thank you. Manalijain (talk) 12:49, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Manalijain, tell you what, let's start with you telling me how those sources meet the Reliable Source criteria. Start with 3 and 6. Ravensfire (talk) 15:02, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Alright Ravensfire, so according to me:

3rd source leads to the official website of SutraHR and then when clicked on the March 23, 2018 article visible there, it leads to the full list of achievers. The 3rd and 4th one are connected sources. (Also if you want, then I could not use this 3rd one but use the 4th source instead)

6th source is by India Forums which is one of the biggect medium of latest film and television industry updates. Though in this article of India Forums, I agree there isn't much information given, but there's only the headline & the offical post by the actress. But it is a published source. I also have an alternative source for this one-

@Manalijain: So let's talk more about IndiaForums. Did you really read the WP:RS page? I'm questioning if you did, because in the self-published source section is this "...posts on Internet forums are all examples of self-published media" Your "source" is a forum post. Absolutely not reliable! The third source it's even a source at all - it's a search. Not a specific source that a reader could actually verify something. That's not good. On top of that, the website itself is basically a blog with nothing to show ANY editorial control. It's a blog for an HR company. Are you starting to understand why I want you to actually read that Reliable Source page? Why so many of your sources are being rejected? You aren't putting any effort into vetting them, despite some pretty direct pointers. You are using any source that hits on a search. That's discouraging from my standpoint, because you aren't putting in the effort to verify sources. Ravensfire (talk) 21:22, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Oh, okay okay! Ravensfire That's the reason that to verify the sources or get any opinion on them, I am mentioning them on many editors' talk page and on wikipedia tea-house too. Alright then, I got it about 3rd and 6th source, won't use them then.

Also, can you confirm about the rest mentioned sources, please? Manalijain (talk) 02:26, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

References

1. https://www.cityairnews.com/content/celebs-film-and-tv-industry-attended-bright-perfect-miss-india-and-bright-perfect-achievers
2. https://urbanasian.com/news/2018/02/insight-bharat-icon-awards-iskon-juhu-top-celebs/
3. https://www.sutrahr.com/tag/young-achievers-in-india/
4. https://www.sutrahr.com/young-achievers-in-india/
5. https://www.iwmbuzz.com/television/news/full-winner-list-iwmbuzz-syska-style-awards/2019/06/15
6. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/5169302
7. https://aryaekfan.com/avneet-kaur-and-siddharth-nigam-won-favourite-personality-of-the-year-award-2020/

The edit you made

Please check the links you added to my draft Dynamo Gaming The link added by you is not working. Please dont add anything which is not relevant and it is my draft which is not yet submitted for review. So I think you should add something on your own which is not relevant. Please check it and correct it or you may restore my version. EditWiki45 (talk) 19:59, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ravensfire, Thanks for correcting some mistakes in my article Bagheera (upcoming film). I'll rectify those in my upcoming articles. But I have a doubt to ask with you. Before your correction, this article was not listing in search engines like Google. After you correction only it came I think, did you change anything for that? Or it came automatically? Because few of my other articles are still pending to appear in search engine even after approval.

Thanks Kamesh Aravind P (talk) 05:22, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

I request you not to revert my edit bcoz the edit you made was wrong.that link redirects to a video that is deleted and is no longer available plz let it be as it is. It is not harming anything and it also looks good EditWiki45 (talk) 18:51, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

EditWiki45, sorry for the trouble - I assumed the templates were working without checking. I've gotten them working for the custom url and the channel and following Misplaced Pages's convention for external links. Ravensfire (talk) 20:10, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks & need clarification, Search engi

Hi Ravensfire, Thanks for correcting some mistakes in my article Bagheera (upcoming film). I'll rectify those in my upcoming articles. But I have a doubt to ask with you. Before your correction, this article was not listing in search engines like Google. After you correction only it came I think, did you change anything for that? Or it came automatically? Because few of my other articles are still pending to appear in search engine even after approval.

Thanks Kamesh Aravind P (talk) 05:35, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Kamesh Aravind P, new articles usually show up in indexes in about 90 days after the article is created. This allows for issues and concerns to be spotted, raised and corrected. The WP:INDEXING page has more information. So just be patient, it will show up. Ravensfire (talk) 18:18, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Edit warring and violation of 3RR policy

Hello Ravensfire.I am sorry to bother you.An user named Advaita2222 is active in edit warring in the Baidya page.I have requested him to initiate discussion in the talk page.But, He is repeatedly reverting the last consensus version which was approved by one of the Senior editors Ekdalianplease check it.I have warned him.Can You please help to handle this.Thanks.Regards.Abhishek Sengupta 24 (talk) 15:29, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox Assam Vidhan Sabha constituency, Template:Infobox Kerala Niyamasabha Constituency, Template:Infobox Vidhan Sabha constituency, Template:Infobox state assembly constituency and Template:Infobox Indian state legislative assembly constituency

Template:Infobox Assam Vidhan Sabha constituency, Template:Infobox Kerala Niyamasabha Constituency, Template:Infobox Vidhan Sabha constituency and Template:Infobox state assembly constituency has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox Indian state legislative assembly constituency. You are invited to comment on the discussion at wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 July 14#Infobox Assam Vidhan Sabha constituency. Thank you. 122.167.185.249 (talk) 13:20, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Comment left - good call on the merge idea. Ravensfire (talk) 20:36, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Question from a spammer

reason for removing Dhadak link? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sukralia (talk • contribs) 19:02, July 23, 2021 (UTC)

@Sukralia: Obviously because you were spamming a link to a non-notable, junk website. Misplaced Pages is the wrong place to promote a website link that. Most of your edits have been to spam poor quality sites - that's not tolerated and a good way for you to end up blocked from editing and /or the website put on the spam black list which WILL stop you or anyone else from adding links to that site. Just stop. Ravensfire (talk) 02:08, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Roshinibb

Hi Ravensfire, I'm Roshinibb you sent me a message on my talk page that I am running multiple accounts but sir this is my first ever account on wikipedia. I'm not anyone's sock. Please don't make such accusations against me and I have not reverted any work. I saw that some pages had content removed despite the sources so I put them back that's it. User:Roshinibb (talk) 02:38, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Roshinibb, fortunately, there's a SPI request to check on that, so we'll find out. I certainly hope you aren't because if you are, your edits will be reverted. I hope you have read the articles I've linked. Ravensfire (talk) 01:16, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

And they are now blocked as a sock. Ravensfire (talk) 00:58, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Why did you revert all my edits

You reverted my edits at Lavina Tandon. You said that the sources are unreliable. Didnt you see that I also added sources of IndiaToday Group and ABP live. Please check once I told u not to revert my edits without discussing. Plz dont misuse your power and check my edits throughly EditWiki45 (talk) 15:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

EditWiki45, You've been using unreliable sources and not starting any discussions yourself . WP:BRD is the normal cycle - Boldly make a change, but if it's Reverted, start a Discussion. That's where you need to start discussions, not demanding others do as you want. Not helpful. As I said in my edit summary, you are using unreliable sources. You cannot just use any website you find on-line, stick with high quality news sources. Starsunfolded (and similar junk sites like wikibio and celebrityborn) are NOT good sources for Misplaced Pages - they scrape from who knows where, including from Misplaced Pages itself. Don't use those. IMDB is also not a good sources, it's user-generated material that may or may not be vetted, we don't have any way to know. See WP:CITEIMDB. Ravensfire (talk) 15:45, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Image Delte

You deleted file that i uploaded on Dev joshi article becouse of copyright. So tell me how can I upload that file with license? Dev joshi fan (talk) 04:09, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Dev joshi fan, for someone that's alive, images used on Misplaced Pages need to have been released under an acceptable free license or in the public domain - see WP:IUPC. Just about every image you find online (facebook, instagram, twitter and just about every other website out there) is copyrighted and does not have a compatible license. You can always ask at the WP:IMAGEHELP for specific files. Please though, don't upload files that you find online unless the page EXPLICITLY says it has a compatible license. Ravensfire (talk) 06:05, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Suniel Shetty Edits

Hello, I want to tell you that the photo of Shetty was not applicable to be on his main page. So, I made those edits. Please tell me that why you reverted my edits. (If you don't mind, I am reverting your edit again). Thank You! - WARSH KUMAR — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warsh Kumar (talk • contribs) 09:25, August 1, 2021 (UTC)

@Warsh Kumar: as I said, parts of your edits are contrary to Misplaced Pages standards. you've been told that before on your talk page and have ignored them. Please don't ask other editors to clean up after you. if you continue the same issues, your edits will continue to be reverted. Ravensfire (talk) 14:34, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Roshni Kaur confusion

To make Anupama a semi protected page like earlier

Hey can you make Anupama a semi protected page again? Which can be edited by only verified account holders like us. Because past some days some anonymous users are cooking up their own story which can't be possible. Like Samar's character assassination, Anupamaa's character assassination etc. So to protect this page from anonymous users can you make it semi-protected like earlier. And only verified account holders like us will be able to edit it Pra2310 (talk) 04:54, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Pra2310, you can request page protection at WP:RFPP. I am not an admin so I can't help you there. Also,nplease look at condensing the plot. It is way, way, WAY too detailed and long right now. It should be no more than 500 words or so. Ravensfire (talk) 11:29, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes. I'll consider to shorten it. But the drama is becoming so high in recent episodes specially each and every character's equation with each other that it's necessary to explain it in detail. The ardent follwers of show knows that there are only 3 people who'll not leave Protagonist. These are 2nd leads Samar, Nandini and Kinjal(the 3rd lead). And some unauthorised users were making their own cooked up stories. From now on I'll update the plot after 7-10 episodes to shorten it. And thanks for suggesting me to make a request for Semi-protection of page. I allready did it. Please can you also make a request. As I'm also a new user to wiki and I made an account back in mid june, 2021. Because I'm a big fan of TMKOC also Pra2310 (talk) 12:54, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Pra2310, honestly, from a FAN perspective, the detail is needed, but remember this is a encyclopedia article with a summary of the show - the high points only. Look at the bit you just added - over 150 words!?!? Don't think of summarizing it episode by episode, but summarizing the major plot lines only. You CANNOT keep adding this level of detail over and over, it will be reverted. The level of detail you want is appropriate for a fan wiki, but no Misplaced Pages. Ravensfire (talk) 14:28, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

IMDB

can we add IMDb link of an actor in External link section.Princepratap1234 (talk) 14:55, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Princepratap1234, generally, yes, that's pretty common on the actor's page. It's using IMDB as a source that's problematic. What page? Ravensfire (talk) 14:58, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

No , only in external link section and thanks for the help.Princepratap1234 (talk) 15:01, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

External Links

Hello! After your brief discussion on my talk page regarding the external links precisely IMDb links; I would like to know about the other external links which can be considered into the External Links section of the article. And are social media links including Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube considered into external links? ManaliJain (talk) 09:30, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

ManaliJain, please read WP:NOSOCIAL. Ravensfire (talk) 11:19, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Okay, and what about YouTube? I want to know about using YouTube links as a source as well as using YouTube links in external links section. Are both of the options or anyone of the options allowed? ManaliJain (talk) 12:01, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

ManaliJain, it's going to depend. WP:YOUTUBE talks about using Youtube as a source. As with most sources, the answer is "it depends". Using a video to source that it exists? That's a primary source, and if nothing else has noticed it, it's probably not notable. News videos from an official channel can be good sources. Random videos? Not so much. As for external links, see WP:YOUTUBE-EL. Again, ELMINOFFICIAL and NOSOCIAL are going to restrict what goes into the External links section. I can't give you a blanket statement, like many things on Misplaced Pages, it's going to be situational. Misplaced Pages is not a place to promote a person's social media feeds, always keep that in mind. Ravensfire (talk) 12:06, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Alright, thank you for the clarification! ManaliJain (talk) 12:31, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey @Ravensfire:, I also wanted to know about Bollywood Hungama being used in the external link section? Here on WP:EL/P, I didn't find any mentions about Bollywood Hungama. Is it allowed or it's optional too? ManaliJain (talk) 13:58, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

You'll see it added on some articles, but it's not as common as IMDB. I personally wouldn't be adding it to articles when there's a good IMDB page available. Misplaced Pages is not a directory of links. Ravensfire (talk) 14:09, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! ManaliJain (talk) 14:32, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Need to stop

Hi I am User: Cactinites this user User:Ruhanika457 is doing edits that are not allowed here see this in this edit this user is removing a reliable source which is not allowed here. Also see this in this edit this user is removing a whole section which is necessary for Misplaced Pages biographies.Please stop this user from doing this type of edits. Cactinites (talk) 05:08, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@Cactinites: I'm going to assume you've tried to ask them either on the article talk page (preferred!) or their talk page, as that's always the first step in dispute resolution. You have, right? That said, the refs are probably useful, but could be better placed. For example, the first one is after the "and"? Do it doesn't support the first clause? On the second - Misplaced Pages really isn't some gossip tabloid. Personally, I despise the "XYZ is dating PDQ" in the articles. It's pure tabloid crap. Again though, you need to ask the editor, politely. Ravensfire (talk) 01:14, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Providence religious movement article

Hello Ravensfire, hope you are well

On your recent reversion of my edits on the Providence page, you cited Misplaced Pages's dead link policy.

I understand why you cited it, however as I am sure you know in the BLP policy material that is contentious and potentially libelous to a living person must be cited strongly.

The claim on the page about the salvation in Providence is not actually supported by these sources, and in his article Sakurai himself says that he only has a feeling this could be the Providence teaching, but that it is impossible to know because the doctrines are not published/ public knowledge.

I could not find replacement sources. I assume good faith here so wanted to message you GIOScali (talk) 00:14, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Also I am sure you saw I reverted your edits, if you disagree I prefer we discuss it on the talk page with other editors

GIOScali (talk) 00:15, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Please discuss on the article talk page. I will be reverting your edits again, please get consensus first. As you noted, this is a contentious article where you have a very specific POV that often has been contrary to Misplaced Pages policies. Also, note that archive links are perfectly acceptable and both links you removed as dead have working archive links. Come on, really? Ravensfire (talk) 16:13, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Big Ganga is now Zee Ganga

Please change the article name from Big Ganga to Zee Ganga as channel has been rebranded as Zee Ganga recently. Authentic sources has been provided already in the article. Thank you! Koustav Chatterjee (talk) 15:45, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@Koustav Chatterjee: I can't move the page either, with the redirect page there. Your easiest option is to follow the directions on WP:MOVE#How_to_move_a_page and make a request at Requested moves - Technical requests as this does appear to be a non-controversial page move. Ravensfire (talk) 17:45, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi

Zaira Wasim

Zaira Wasim Doesn't allow to use her photos on internet , you can check it on many of the news articles , so kindly remove the photo of zaira Wasim on her page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:201:5503:7828:c10a:c8b1:bf8f:acd7 (talk) 01:10, August 26, 2021 (UTC)

As I noted in the edit summary, I understand her wishes, but that's not how Misplaced Pages works (nor how most media sites work). Ravensfire (talk) 15:57, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Watchlist query

Hi Ravensfire. You recently moved Assim Al-Hakeem to draft space. I'm wondering if you'd know why that move is showing up in my watchlist? I don't recall ever contributing to that article, in mainspace or draft space, but I can see the moves from earlier today in my watchlist. No biggie, just curious. Regards, Bastun 10:55, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

@Bastun: That's interesting. My guess would be that since the draft has been deleted previously , and maybe you did something with that previous article/draft which is why it triggered on your watchlist. That's the only thing I could think would cause that to happen. Ravensfire (talk) 16:46, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

That sounds plausible, all right. Thanks! Regards, Bastun 09:17, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

In case a bot archives it before you see it...

Let me know if you have any concerns (too much collateral) with this rangeblock. Cheers, OhNoitsJamie 17:23, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

That's perfect - I know the past month or two has been all from them. I made basically the same comment you just made on the SPI - Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/Yeu_aga_maj. Sad part - if Wefffrrr had just discussed when I and a few others raised concerns about their edits several months ago, this probably wouldn't be needed. But they didn't, and didn't really change / deal with the issues, and so here we are. Thank you! Ravensfire (talk) 17:28, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Rollback granted

Hi Ravensfire. After reviewing your request, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when using rollback:

• Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
• Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
• Rollback should never be used to edit war.
• If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
• Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Misplaced Pages:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Mz7 (talk) 00:01, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Why I am not allowed - KaranSharma0445 sock

Hi User:Ravensfire why do you hate me so much. When I first came in 2014 I didn’t know the rules as I was about 16 now I know what to do and not do why can’t I come on Misplaced Pages. In the past years i have never vandalised any page but making it better and you are not letting me do that. KevinLondon444 (talk) 08:16, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Also so what if I am editing Indian reality shows it’s what I like why are you doing this KevinLondon444 (talk) 08:17, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@KevinLondon444: Oooo, the rant! So let's start with the easy reason, shall we? The lies and deception. "Not coming back here again and never will be as it’s been affected my health", "this is not fake I am never coming back here. If you don’t believe me it’s not my problem you will see if I come back or not.", "User:RoySmith I will never come back here again. I am the Person so please block." Any of those sound familiar? You didn't even make it two hours before you created another account. There is absolutely ZERO trust left in you as an editor here. None. For the rest, you care zero about Misplaced Pages only that you get your way. You've been left multiple longer explanations - go read those. There's some really good reasons on the SPI page. WP:EVADE if you want the short, short, short version. We're done here. Ravensfire (talk) 12:19, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Look Ravensfire you just don’t like me for no reason. You have made personal attacks before at me and have been very rude and abusive. Anyways I am not making a new account. Also to clarify I never lied about my health. In fact you and Hellknowz have made my health bad. That’s all. Also I never vandalised any page I have understood the rules etc fan cruft. I won’t be back for good because of you and Hellknowz. I don’t have any problem with you at all but it looks like you have a problem with me which is fine because I don’t want you to trust me because I don’t know any of you personally and don’t want to. So bye and signing off.— Preceding unsigned comment added by KevinLondon444 (talk • contribs) 07:45, September 1, 2021 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't care one way or the other about you. At worst, you're annoying. Personal attacks? Really? So, I've said you use socks. That's factually correct and not a personal attack. That you've lied and deceieved. That's factually correct and not a personal attack. That you add fancruft to articles. Factually correct and not a personal attack. Ignore community consensus when you don't like it. Factually correct and not a personal attack. There is poor behavior here, but you want to look in a mirror. And yes, I know you'll be back. The last time, you stayed away a whopping two hours! My expectations of your future actions have been set by your past behavior, and are quite, quite low. Ravensfire (talk) 13:02, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Which SPI are we talking about here? -- RoySmith (talk) 15:06, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@RoySmith: Whoops! Sorry for the accidental ping on that reply. This is Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/KaranSharma0445 again - they're complaining about the sock they created two hours after saying here (and in the SPI) that there were leaving Misplaced Pages was spotted, and once again saying they are leaving. Ravensfire (talk) 15:12, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Crayon Shin-chan

Is the maintenance tag needed in the article Crayon Shin-chan? If it is not needed, please remove it or give me permission to remove it. Zarif1511 (talk) 05:14, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Zarif1511: Honestly, I know very little about that article, having made only a few small edits in the past, all reverting editors that had also made poor edits on an article I watched. The tag was added fairly recently , you may consider asking on the article talk page and tagging that editor, but with a quick scan of the article, the International section has a lot of unsourced statements, so the tag is probably still warranted. Ravensfire (talk) 23:20, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Re the Federal Reserve article

Re this:

"Please discuss this on the article talk page, but the POV nature of the edits are a cause for concern. There's a lot of WP:FRINGE views around Federal Reserve, several of which are hit in that short edit. Ravensfire (talk) 19:00, 2 September 2021 (UTC)"

How can I write this cordially: You've got a lot of nerve questioning my POV. There's nothing about my edits that were fringe. My edits were literally public domain knowledge. The Fed itself says it's an independent organization that's NOT part of the US Federal Government, but accountable to Congress. Similarly, it's public domain knowledge that the Fed is not a reserve of any kind since going off the gold standard.

You could have made your rejection civil but you chose not to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:02, September 2, 2021 Wikiguy91311 (UTC)

Sorry you took it personally, but your edit had several issues where you either ignored what the sources said or flat out didn't have any support. If you'd like to discuss the edit, please start a discussion on the article talk page. You may want to read through the archives, there are multiple discussions across the years related to the two main points of your edit. Ravensfire (talk) 01:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

K.Mukherjee1996 and Ag.abhinavgautam are operated by same person. Just look at their queries and answers and . Also, looks like desperately doing kind of paid editing 2402:3A80:1C46:7CA4:996D:CB0F:CCF2:F1CD (talk) 11:29, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

This log will make it more clear. 2402:3A80:1C46:7CA4:996D:CB0F:CCF2:F1CD (talk) 11:32, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

It's possible, but I think it's more likely this is WP:UPE paid editing happening. Ravensfire (talk) 13:24, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Ravensfire: see 2402:3A80:6EC:4EEA:904:88EE:703E:1AB2 (talk) 05:43, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Glad they finally did the right thing! Ravensfire (talk) 14:50, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Star Jalsha

Please take step about semi-protection of the article Star Jalsha as some anonymous users are adding unsourced news. Zarif1511 (talk) 13:52, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Zarif1511: I am not an admin, so I can't change protection settings. You can make a request at Request for Page Protection though. Ravensfire (talk) 13:57, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

M247?

For the acronym-challenged among us, who is M247? -- RoySmith (talk) 17:43, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Oh, never mind. You mean https://m247.com/ -- RoySmith (talk) 17:46, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Yup! If it wasn't for another range Bttowadch was using that was blocked as a proxy, I wouldn't have known what the heck that was either. I could have been more descriptive, apologies on that one. Ravensfire (talk) 17:59, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Bttowadch

Im bttowadch sock and i had created several abuse accounts in the past. But i edits without any account but you always revert it. What the shitty logic is this, if an editor made good edits then always revert it and waste his/her time and working that ones made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.59.40 (talk) 09:30, September 9, 2021 (UTC)

@119.160.59.40: Why should any editor here waste their time dealing with someone that's been banned, repeatedly creates socks, copy-pastes text on a regular basis and usually includes WP:PUFFERY in the articles they create? That's the shitty logic. YOU are banned. You haven't bothered with any attempts to talk about the editing issues. Yeah, sometimes your edits are good. Sometimes. Look how many articles you've created after conning people into creating redirects have been put into draft space. Not good edits in other worse. Stop wasting OUR time. Ravensfire (talk) 14:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Why did you revert all my edits?

Hi, sorry i just wanna ask? why can't i put Uttaran cast in table from? i saw that Saath Nibhaana Saathiya cast is using tables, so i was inspired to make a table for the Uttaran cast as well, thank you for you answer:)

Please read WP:TVCAST which describes how the cast section should look. Uttaran doesn't meet the criteria to use a table. Ravensfire (talk) 12:33, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Spam related.

hello, sir I don't know you. But want to left a message. I don't know the procedure how to contact you. I am not going to lie. Whatever I say is the truth. Let me explain myself. My name is ayan as you know. My website is 3 years old, and I have worked hard for it. I watched on youtube how to get genuine links that's why I did that. But these links in no way are spam. You can read all the links. These all links were related to the article. I have not put any spam. I have just put links that are related. I accept my mistake. I promise you that I will never ever try to spam. I also promise you that I will never ever try to put my websites link on Misplaced Pages ever. My request is please don't harm my website. I have worked hard for it. Please, sir. You can block it in Misplaced Pages but do not block it on Google and everywhere else. please don't harm it. If possible do not block it here on Misplaced Pages as well, my site will become popular one day I promise that day someone else will give my sites reference. I know that. All I can do is tell you that I didn't mean to harm anyone. Please don't do this to me. I can only request. I don't know actually how it works. I only put articles related to that article. I am literally sorry if I have broken any rules. That wont happen again.

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayan k. shrivastava (talk • contribs) 09:52, September 13, 2021 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hey! I removed that section from my talk page and forgot to reply your comment there. Just came here as I wanted to thank you for your help and cooperation :) ManaliJain (talk) 16:13, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Back after block

Warsh Kumar (talk · contribs) is back and they have moved a number of pages. Although DMacks (talk · contribs) was the blocking admin, you have been warning them for quite some time now, so I'll leave this here. 2405:201:4013:80F4:1DB:51CC:DE38:6D55 (talk) 14:01, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Showbiz826 sock

Hey, I noticed you picked up on a old Showbiz ip acting up again at Chaulukya dynasty, who is as usual persistent in POV-pushing. You mind dropping a comment at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/Showbiz826 to help get the ball rolling on the investigation? Chariotrider555 (talk) 16:53, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello, He is my client

Aditya Gairola (talk) 08:48, 3 October 2021 (UTC) Hello, team,

I have tried to maintain a neutral tone and read the guidelines before making the post live. But I understand I am not an expert at Misplaced Pages so I have gone ahead and made amendments in the draft as suggested by you. I have also added an important inference, "I was paid for creating Ramesh Behl (Professor)" on my username page. Thank you for guiding me.

Please let me know if I need to remove or edit anything on the page. Thanks. Aditya Gairola (talk) 08:48, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

@Aditya Gairola, Thank you for the transparency. If you read the WP:PAID page, there are several templates that make the declaration easier, in particular the {{PAID}} template. I've gone ahead and added the connected contributor paid template to the article talk page. One thing that's missing is who paid you, if you could go to the talk page, and edit the U1-employer parameter to indicate who paid you. If you're not sure how to do that, you can just say here, or update the declaration on your user page to indicate that. The ToU do require that you disclose the employer, client and affiliation.

On the article itself, the main issue would be notability. WP:NPROF and WP:NAUTHOR are probably relevant and at least right now, I don't see how those are met by the article. There are issues with sourcing in the article (the early life section is unsourced). What's needed are non-interview sources from solid publishers that have substantial coverage of the person. Not casual or brief mentions, not of entities they are affiliated with, but significant coverage of the article subject. That's what article reviewers look for in drafts. I'm not a reviewer, but those are the issues I saw with the article. Ravensfire (talk) 19:06, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for the valuable inputs. I will try and create a few articles that talk extensively about the client. Meanwhile, could you please share the right step to add the details/ steps of how to add the employer details?. Thanks. Can we not take the page live with these citations? I have removed any presumptuous information from the page. For his early life, I had added a Wikibio reference but apparently, that was removed. Kindly help.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aditya Gairola (talk • contribs) 13:44, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

@Aditya Gairola, For the employer details, I've edited your user page to use the {{paid}} template which makes the disclosures easy and left the employer blank. Just edit the template on that page and add the employer details. For example, if you work for ABC Image Consultants who were hired to create Behl's page, you would put ABC Image Consultants as Employer, and Behl as the client. If Behl directly paid you, put Behl as the Employer. A similar template is on the draft talk page, but if you aren't comfortable with that template, I can handle that once you fill in the template on your talk page.

Source wise, Wikibio is a scraper site that is not a reliable source for Misplaced Pages. The page will go live once a reviewer accepts it, but right now, that's really, really unlikely. You've got to find good, strong sources that aren't connected to the subject, have significant coverage and aren't interviews. Ravensfire (talk) 19:46, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Aditya Gairola (talk) 08:17, 7 October 2021 (UTC) Thank you for your tips and help. I have added the employer's name as well as a few citations. I have also requested the team to get a few insightful blogs ready for the subject. Have a good day ahead! Much appreciated.

@Aditya Gairola please note that blogs are WP:UGC and are not considered to be reliable sources for Misplaced Pages. And having things done *now* to get sources for an article is frankly not a good image. Articles used as sources must come from independent publishers with a solid reputation. Not interviews or paid-for puff pieces. Ravensfire (talk) 13:58, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Lyrics spam

Hey, please remove my site link from blacklist. I will never add any sites link again. Please remove this site link from blacklist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GamerAakash (talk • contribs) 17:18, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

@GamerAakash, you can request it to be removed at WT:SBL. It is unlikely to be removed, however. First, it is not a reliable source for Misplaced Pages. Second, you continued to add links to the site after being warned it was spammed and not to do so. Misplaced Pages is not the place to promote your site, spamming is not tolerated here and there are consequences for continuing to do so after being warned. Ravensfire (talk) 18:00, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

I did not pay attention to the warnings given by Misplaced Pages, it is my big mistake, I agree. Please remove 99lyricstore.com from Misplaced Pages's blacklist I accept my mistake and I never add lyrics links in Misplaced Pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GamerAakash (talk • contribs) 05:19, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

It's not a reliable source for Misplaced Pages. It was spammed by the site owner. Sites on the blacklist are not removed when requested by the owner. In other words, it's not going to happen. Ravensfire (talk) 13:49, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Image

Is it allowed in Misplaced Pages to add images that contains watermark. Cactinites (talk) 16:10, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

@Cactinites It is, although discouraged. WP:WATERMARK says that "Free images should not be watermarked, distorted, have any credits or titles in the image itself or anything else that would hamper their free use", but it's not required. Obviously, see the large number of BollywoodHungama image that have the watermark still. As they are free images, the watermark can be removed and a new version uploaded. The strong preference is NOT to have watermarks, and can be a deciding factor in a discussion about which image to use on an article. Ravensfire (talk) 17:13, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

James O'Keefe Misplaced Pages Edit Removal

Hello Ravensfire,

You have seemed to reverse my edits to the Misplaced Pages page dedicated to James O'Keefe. On these edits, I have revised blatant lies that discredit and ruin the credibility of the Project Veritas founder.

Please let me know why you have removed them, and what should be done to fix them.

Thank you, Supermariogamingplayz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supermariogamingplayz (talk • contribs) 17:09, October 18, 2021 (UTC)

@Supermariogamingplayz: There's a couple of issues. As you can probably guess, that article has seen extensive edit-warring, disruptive editing and general unpleasant editing evironment to the point there are discretionary sanctions to help keep disruptive editing to a minimum. O'Keefe is a very polarizing person with a fair number of supporters and quite a few detractors. Misplaced Pages articles are supposed to be ] which has a pretty specific meaning. Remember this is an encyclopedia, written to present a summary of the subject, so that neutral means that information in articles must be based on reliable secondary sources and in proportion to how those sources present the subject. So the question becomes how is O'Keefe generally portrayed by secondary sources? When an edit you make gets reverted, the best place to start is often the article talk page. On articles like this, you'll find extensive discussions and often some of which pertains to aspects of the edit you've made. Misplaced Pages works on a WP:CONCENSUS model, so you need to work with other editors on the talk page to see about changing existing consensus. Read through those previous discussions so you'll know the points that have been raised in prior discussions, especially those related to Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines. Ravensfire (talk) 22:21, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

I was about to add that just reverting back to your preferred version over and over is called editwarring and only leads to a really quick block. Likewise, calling edits you don't like WP:VANDALISM is a bad thing. In this case, you ended up blocked for vandalism because you reverted over and over to push a POV that contrary to consensus and ignores the significant issues a lot of high quality sources have with O'Keefe. That's a good way to score points back on a far-right forum, but a bad way to edit Misplaced Pages. Think about it. Hopefully, you'll start with the article talk page and read the existing discussions first before teeing up on the revert button and finding out that doesn't work too well. Ravensfire (talk) 22:24, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

A question

Shouldn't a character's nickname be mentioned at the last of the character's full name? Please answer. Shinnosuke15 (talk) 00:14, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Promotional?

If you won’t tell me what you think is promotional according to you, how will I find out? In reverting everything, you are also removing multiple sources and information + updates. Vucien (talk) 14:32, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

You've been reverted by multiple people (and this edit has been attempted by multiple accounts, all blocked as socks in the past). Discuss on article talk page. Ravensfire (talk) 15:29, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

About Misplaced Pages sources

I have two questions about Misplaced Pages sources: (1)Is it allowed to use You Tube Videos as source in wikipedia ? (2) Is it allowed to use minimal realiable source like Pinkvilla in Misplaced Pages ? Cactinites (talk) 10:21, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

@Cactinites, For Youtube, it depends. WP:YOUTUBE and WP:Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#YouTube cover it; the basic answer is if the video is from a verified channel of a reputable news organization, it may be okay. You have to be careful about possible self-published information but there isn't a blanket prohibition on using Youtube. As always with source questions, the context matters greatly. There was a Pinkvilla discussion on RSN here -WP:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_355#Pinkvilla,_Meaww_&_Bollywood_Life that points out the issues with using that site as a source. I would generally avoid using a clickbait tabloid site like that. Ravensfire (talk) 13:40, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Unhealthy behaviour

The user Vucein whose edits you reverted recently is continuously doing desruptive edits on 3 pages: Harshad Chopda and Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai being excessive promotional. And on Anupamaa they remove general story like protagonist's Ovarian cancer diagnosis. And update that story which hasn't been arrived just on the basis of promos and precaps. Which often proves to be misleading many times. I tried to warn them but they alleged me of doing promotion. And they remove necassary parts like personal life and when music videos and past shows of actors released on the grounds of promotion for Paras Kalnawat and my recently created Anagha Bhosale and Muskaan Bamne. Atleast I accept my mistakes. But they doesn't accept their mistakes. Thinks their edits to be perfect and shows hostile behaviour towards every other editor by engaging in edit war. I also saw an IP user this morning who edited in the cast section just on the basis of precap. I'm providing it's link.. I'm also providing links to some of their desruptive edits.. And one thing I added Protagonist's younger son Samar's character in main cast section on the basis of this character included in all versions of Sreemoyee including Sreemoyee itself. But they accused me of being a fan. And someone suspected them to be sockpuppet due to their repititive desruptive edits on Harshad Chopda. I'm providing it's link too.. I tried to warn them about this in their talk page but first they gave rude reply accusing me of doing those things which they themselves do and then didn't replied after 2nd warning reply. I'm providing it's link too. Pra2310 was my former username. . They have been repeatedly warned by you, me and other editors. Even I tried to resolve these issues by asking them to come on my talk page on their talk page. But they are continuously showing hostile behaviour by engaging in edit war with everyone and accusing others for what they themselves do. So can't a strict action be taken against them??? Pri2000 (talk) 21:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Honestly, it's probably time to take this to WP:ANI, focusing on the behavior you noted, especially the WP:OWN that seems to be happening. I personally think they are a sock, but at the SPI report (here) the most recent accounts are too stale and an admin needs to review the behavior, which hasn't happened. I think you need to go to ANI, I'll support that and note my sock suspicions. Ravensfire (talk) 00:09, 14 November 2021 (UTC)s Ravensfire (talk) 00:09, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

I've published the matter. Hoping for positive results. Pri2000 (talk) 04:20, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Stalking

Hello brother/sister. Thanks for guiding me in creating report against Vucein. Even I saw another IP doing same revert as Vucein. And now I feel Vucein and his suspected sockpuppets are stalking my userpage. As they're doing unnecessary edits over only those page after Harshad Chopda, Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai and some other shows as fans which I created blaming me to be fan. Which I'm not. I accepts my mistakes. But can't agree with those accusations which I hadn't done. Can you please tell me where can I do report for userpage stalking. Pri2000 (talk) 08:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Constant removal by fanpage

Hello brother/sister. Thanks for your recent help in my created pages. But in TV series Ghum Hai Kisikey Pyaar Mein a user Neilshasairat (which are indeed the off as well as onscreen ship names of Neil Bhatt and Ayesha Singh playing Sai and Virat) is continuously removing Aishwarya Sharma playing Patralekha the main antagonist's name from main cast section. I warned them 3 times not to do this. But they and some IP users are continuously doing this. Will this case be filed in sockpuppet investigation or anywhere else. Pri2000 (talk) 01:01, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

. See this is the behaviour of this user. Will it be reported in sockpuppet investigation or any other investigation Pri2000 (talk) 17:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Help

Please help me to save my all 3 created articles from being deleted. A user unnecessarily nominated Anagha Bhosale, Muskaan Bamne and List of characters in Anupama for deletion. Even list are also available for past shows like Sarabhai v/s Sarabhai. Pri2000 (talk) 09:38, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Removal of external link from PM Kaushal Vikas yojana

Hi Raven, The scheme feature is incomplete as PM Daksh Yojana is an extension to this scheme hence I have added it so that people can get benefited. 2402:3A80:C8E:7237:FF05:A20:379B:CCB0 (talk) 15:34, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

It's not a reliable source for Misplaced Pages and should not be added. Ravensfire (talk) 15:39, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Help on good article improvement

Hey, I've nominated Sooryavanshi for good article, however still I need some help where I can make it a proper article. Need help at once. SuperHero ● 👊 ● ★ 16:02, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Fan Content on Harsha (Director) page

We observe fan content and without public verity on this page. If there are any further fan content on this page, either this page will be removed or locked for further edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ContentEdit1961 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@ContentEdit1961 when you add information to an article without a source, as you've done again today, you are contributing to the problem. Please do not continue to do so, you will end up blocked if you keep that up. Adding your personal views is not helpful. Ravensfire (talk) 19:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

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Film Companion

How I wished it were a RS, at least with regards to WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV. But if I request specific FC articles to be whitelisted, it might be accepted right? Kailash29792 (talk) 05:32, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@Kailash29792, I wouldn't use the whitelisting unless no other source has similar information. So a whitelisting request just for a review when there are other reviews from reliable sources available I would avoid. When it's the only place that something notable is mentioned, that's a good time for whitelisting. Ravensfire (talk) 14:32, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Creating an article for Vidhya Vinod

Hey, I have Tried to create a wikipedia article for Dr. Vidhya Vinod, and it seems that you have deleted the same. Can you guide me through the steps to create an article and why did you delete that content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajna Hamza (talk • contribs) 05:14, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ajna Hamza, the article has now been deleted from two discussions - one in July 2020 the other just recently. That strongly says that right now Vinod does not meet the notability requirements. Read the comments from the AFD's - using promotional sources, article written in a promotional tone, interviews as sources - all of these are not helpful. Perhaps in a year or two if better quality sources exists (non-promotional, not connected to the subject and not promotional in nature) you could start a draft and see if that gets accepted. Right now though, I just don't see that happening. Ravensfire (talk) 15:00, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Your Own user page.

Sir, I left a message on your user page please read it and then erase it to make your own user page. Regards, IndianEncyclopaedic. IndianEncyclopaedic (talk) 07:29, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Please don't EVER change another editor's user page. You made a very wrong assumption about how I wanted my user page. Here's a hint - it's exactly the way I wanted it to be. Look at the history - did you think it was my accident that I created it as a redirect some 12 years ago? And never changed it? And yet you assumed that I wanted something else? Don't EVER do something like that again. That's incredibly rude of you. Ravensfire (talk) 17:00, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Raghava Lawrence

Ravenfire sir, I've noticed you just now that you left a message in my talk page about why I edited an article named Raghava Lawrence. Actually sir, I edited this article to add his real identity and also to add more information about his wiki article so that's why I edited this article. Sorry Ravensfire sir please don't mind, but I've to revert your edit to give his real information and improve the article of him. My sincere apologies. IndianEncyclopaedic (talk) 16:53, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

@IndianEncyclopaedic If you don't have a relible source for the information, please don't add it. It will be removed, and if you continue to add unsourced information, you can end up blocked from editing. Misplaced Pages requires sources so that readers can verify the information. Ravensfire (talk) 16:58, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Sir, do you explain me what is reliable source and non-reliable source in wikipedia, cuz I'm new in wiki and after that I'll try my best to follow the rules of wiki. IndianEncyclopaedic (talk) 17:00, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

There's a welcome message at the top of your talk page, The Contributing to Misplaced Pages page talks about sources. There's also a help link about citations, that's a good place to start. There are a lot of help pages out there, you need to read them. Ravensfire (talk) 17:02, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Help me please

Persistent disruptive editing by Uma Narmada 09:02, 14 December 2021 (UTC) Block the user