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== Describing The Controversy ==

{{IP|90.253.127.43}} has raised an issue in the way the LEAD is written regarding controversy. Their ] which I have reverted so we can discuss it seems to advocate we defocus the gender theory based controversy and focus on the incidents and injuries stemming from instances of reveals gone awry. I personally prefer the original language rather than their proposed language. I was hoping to meet in the middle. ]｟] ]｠ 21:30, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

: Very kind of you to go more than halfway in opening this discussion, since IP {{user|90.253.127.43}} is still new. I propose we ignore the middle of two editors' opinions, and figure out where the ], and just echo that viewpoint in summary form. If that happens to agree with IP they'll be happy, and if it doesn't, they won't. (Spoiler: it doesn't, imho.) In any case the ] is on them to demonstrate the contrary, and achieve a new ] that would overturn the current one. ] (]) 02:59, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

My problem is that the "binary gender essentialism" critique/view is held by an incredibly small number of people and should be a minor footnote of what's become a massive phenomen. Giving it a prominent position in the lead is strange to me. ] (]) 01:16, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
: IP 90: I think you meant to say, "an incredibly large number of people". But either way, your opinion, and my opinion, counts for nothing at all at Misplaced Pages. If it did, everything would be chaos, and the encyclopedia project would fall apart. That's why we have the ] policy: to make sure that neither of our views gets into the article. Instead of just giving our opinion, what we have to do here, is check what the '''majority of reliable sources say''' on the subject, and then add that to the article in summary form. That's how Misplaced Pages works on this article, and on the other 6,331,898 articles. Thanks, ] (]) 02:01, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
::The vast majority of reliable sources about this phenomenon don't even mention this fringe "binary gender essentialism" criticism. Why it's in the lead as apparently the primary critique I don't know. ] (]) 03:28, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
:::Just checking first, I assume you've read all the sources cited here? ]｟] ]｠ 03:32, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
::{{Agree}} with Mathglot ]｟] ]｠ 04:12, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

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