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Yet again, you can find older talk in the archives.--Elaragirl 06:51, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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You're it. I need you.

Find me on IRC, please. ✎ Peter M Dodge ( Talk to Me • Neutrality Project ) 00:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

• And again. ✎ Peter M Dodge (Talk to Me) 23:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

you've got mail

Hi Elara, I've just sent you mail. I still owe a few other people messages, and I will try to get to them when I can. I hope they understand any delays. Thanks. --Kyoko 21:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

This is really late....

....But welcome back!!!!! I can't believe I missed it, but I'm glad you're okay!!!!! Hope everything stays up for you and if things evr get doown you can lean on me. Stay happy!!! —¡Randfan! 22:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Apologies for snotty comment

I wanted to apologize to you for a snotty dismissive comment I made awhile back during an AfD. Your efforts at discussion during that AfD were commendable, and I was wrong to characterize your "new school" brand of deletionism with some of the more well known hit&run deletionists of yesteryear. I meant to apologize right when it happened but got side-tracked by other wiki-drama. I appreciate your refined level of sarcasm and astute grasp of some of the currents in wikipedia. Keep up the good work! - WeniWidiWiki 06:52, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

• No hard feelings, and thanks for coming forward and apologising. Trust me - Elara's been called much worse by others - some people get very protective of their vanity or non-notable articles :) ✎ Peter M Dodge (Talk to Me) 19:17, 3 February 2007 (UTC) Give me a good slap if I shouldn't've replied, Elara :P

thank you

Thanks for the understanding of my comments on that arbitration. and by the way, are you really Chinese? I am and I have an identical account on Chinese Misplaced Pages. Wooyi 04:31, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I was born in Shenzhen and moved to United States in middle school years. Never been to France or Europe in general but would like to =). 我会使用中文，yet it is hard to retain it when not using it. Wooyi 04:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Cool Cat RfA

My comment was more about Cool Cat than about you :) I would have said the same had it been an RfC against a user I had not associated with, if I felt it was unjustified and ill-planned. riana_dzasta 05:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

That's cool :) I'm getting ready for a maths exam I have on Wednesday (I was sick during the actual exam last year, so I have to do this to make it up), so I'm sitting here, staring blankly at a page full of matrices without the slightest idea what I'm meant to do with them... *sigh* Ah well, I'll push on :) I'm trying to avoid this place, but... meh. Hope you've been OK? riana_dzasta 09:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

You never cease to amaze me... *shakes head*. I am amused and somewhat terrified. riana_dzasta 23:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi Elaragirl,

Thanks for participating in my recent RfA. Even though it was ultimately successful (at 54-13-11), I value all of the feedback and have already benefited from the community's suggestions. Hope to see you around. - Gilliam 21:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Edits to my personal templates

Did you realize that Misplaced Pages isn't censored? I just noticed you edited User:Elaragirl/blackmagic in a way that I don't agree with. I'd like to know why you decided to do that. --Elaragirl 23:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

The best place to continue that discussion would be Misplaced Pages:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Elaragirl/blackmagic Jerry lavoie 00:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I have done so, but you still haven't answered my question, which I think is pretty simple. --Elaragirl 00:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Lemme see; the question was: why did I edit the user space page listed? The answer is because it was a violation of WP:CIVIL and contrary to WP:USER#What_can_I_not_have_on_my_user_page.3F. Jerry lavoie 00:32, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Elaragirl/blackmagic for an important message. Thanks, Jerry lavoie 14:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks for voting in it. It's a shame people accuse me of being a sockpuppet just because I know some editors who were blocked for vandalism. Just because they taught me how to use Misplaced Pages, doesn't mean I'm a sockpuppet.

Anyhow, how are you?? I'm OK! --sunstar net 01:00, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Calton/RfC

I read your comments on the RfC page and that one comment you quoted from me was, yes, completely rude on my part, but I, had at that point, lost my temper and said somethings that shouldn't have been said...I was pissed and upset. My fault there.

As for the KXGN page, I am actively working with User:A Man In Black on that page and we are actually getting along (which is new, as AMIB and I haven't had the best wiki "relationship").

I apologize to you for reading the comments I made on Calton's talk page (the ones you quoted)...those were wrong on my part and I take full responsibility for them and I assure you, the RfC, is not just about the KXGN page. - SVRTVDude 10:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I must disagree with your comment on the RfC, Elaragirl. This isn't an article dispute at all; I've never even seen the KXGN page before now. For me, this is an optimistic hope that editors, even established ones, can't get away with being so overtly hostile to everyone. It sounds like you've seen this too, so I hope I can convince you to not make this issue sound like it's just a petty article dispute. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 11:17, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I imagine my comment looks rather out of place now. Your original comment on my talk page misled me into thinking you would be opposed to incivility, but I've now read your teacup page. Sorry to have bothered you, then. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 10:05, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

You said "However, no matter how incivil he is, civility for the sake of civility remains and will always be meaningless." Do you really think so? Civility is one of the 5 pillars. Why should we tolerate that behavior and not call for it to stop? Mangojuice 18:08, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

The point of the Code of Conduct is simple - respect others as you want to be respected. If you don't respect others, don't expect to be respected. If you're putting on a fake veneer of civility - well, a slap from a hand in a velvet glove hurts just as well as a punch from a clenched fist. ✎ Peter M Dodge (Talk to Me) 18:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Coquettish Cabals, and the like

I didn't miss any cabal meetings, did I? Gah. The smile did improve my day, yes, but only once I located the mouth of the... gimp creature... in Image:Nuvola apps gimp.png. Yes, the smile was encouraging, but look at those eyes! Looks like it's overdosed on some sort of narcotic; appears downright voyeuristic. Please enlighten my on the nature of the WikiWub. Is it a variant of WikiLove? How rogue rouge.

Not many things are going on, I suppose... hope Misplaced Pages editing is making you feel better, in general. There's no better place to be sure that what you're doing is right, according to set guidelines and policies, and hell, even common sense. Rather than just trying to exist (like a nation, or MySpace), Misplaced Pages tries to exist well. It certainly gives an ethos not often present elsewhere. I also hope that real life is going well for you, that you're not—bored from being tired. For me, life is okay; school is interesting enough and I'm doing well (except in courses that consist solely of questions like "List are three ways life was hard for settlers? Copy from Use your textbook to answer"). I'll try to be available on IRC. See you around :) --Gracenotes § 03:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

my opinion

I just stumbled over your user page and felt the irresistible urge to offer you my opinion. I believe "Official Archenemy of the Dark Lord of Inclusion" and "User:Elaragirl/Memory" are diametrically opposed to several points of WP:NOT, e.g. this and this. Have you cleared these things with anyone familiar with policy?—Kncyu38 (talk • contribs) 03:17, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I didn't mean to upset you. I actually made this comment to find out more about the obvious little discrepancies and not-so-occasional exceptions from policy. Trying to learn. On your costs. And those of your loved ones. While, at the same time, the sun is shining out of my butt. I'm so sorry. But, as all of your userspace is viewable by anyone, maybe you should be prepared to hear comments about it every once in a while. However, have a nice day (and kindly notice that, contrary to you, I am not using dots to set off ".. nice day" in order to actually wish you a bad day or whatever you were trying to say with that).—Kncyu38 (talk • contribs) 04:00, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe the page should not be removed. Personal things are not categorically prohibited in wikipedia, plus, some of the deceased might be wikipedians. Wooyi 04:04, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Good point, you're probably right. —Kncyu38 (talk • contribs) 04:15, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Look, Elara, I'm sorry. All I can offer you right now is a public diss I put in the criticism section of my user page. I deserve it. —Kncyu38 (talk • contribs) 04:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

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— xaosflux has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{User:Cowman109/Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

May I present...

		The Deletionist's Barnstar
		For your ever surprising wit, charm and finesse whilst calming and civilly removing all cruft and fluff from Wiki... and putting a smile on my face! Thanks! Glen 11:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar!

Thanks for the barnstar. And if anyone accuses me of being a sockpuppet, tell them that I'm not! "Just because a now-banned user taught me about Misplaced Pages, doesn't mean I'm a sockpuppet!"

BTW: I'm now a sysop, on the Cornish Wiktionary - see here. --sunstar net 15:29, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

My comment on Hu12's RfA

Re this - I must have been half asleep last night, especially after my contradicting !votes on RfAs and removing 70 spamlinks that weren't spamlinks :). Yuser31415 (Editor review two!) 21:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

:) Yuser31415 (Editor review two!) 23:05, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Your request to for me to badger

RE: Thank you for the note ;). Much as I do not interperate a decision to keep or delete an article I’ve nominated for deletion as a bad thing or take its outcome personally. A nomination of support or oppose isn't a win-loose for me either. It’s about consensus, and what’s best for the project and a chance to learn from the more experienced editors, in which areas to grow strengths. I clearly enjoy doing what I’ve been doing and have begun changes based on input from you and others. This morning I did a rewrite and cleanup on the article Market liquidity and created the article National Futures Association. I plan much more of this and build strengths in those areas I lack. However, this may not please all who oppose based on that fact alone, but hopefully it can show versatility, and the ability to adapt an learn from those of you who are truly gifted in writing articles. The tools will certainly help in the repetition of vandal fighting, but most of what vandal fighting is, includes many hours of reading through hundreds of articles, research, screening, project page discussions, checks for open proxies, AIV in some cases, tracking down sock account, and of course the many thankless strawman arguments one receives from angry spammers. From the outside it only appears be a few reverts with automatic tools (popups or vandal proof), but much more goes into the type of countervandalism I participate in than pulling the trigger on a couple bad links. I do hope you reconsider, and feel free to drop me a note any time. thanks --Hu12 00:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

My User Page!

Hello, fellow Messianic Wiki editor! I have made some significant changes to my user page, User:Noogster. Please view it and see how you like a few of the changes and sections, and tell me if you think I should add/remove anything important. Shalom and regards. Noogster 01:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

No personal attacks

Your edit to User talk:Somitho was incredibly unwarranted and rather rude. "trolling bullshit" and "keep your mouth shut and go edit the encyclopedia" is not my opinion of a good edit summary.

That comment was regarding a private discussion I once had with Soms.

And you know what? Maybe I'm not going to "go edit the encyclopedia". Maybe I'll just leave Misplaced Pages, right here and now. Never come back. Then what would you do?

~ Flameviper 19:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

User:Elaragirl/Teacup

Holy fucking shit! That's my kind of editor!

/me is going to have some fun with this...

And I can be a real bastard sonofabitch if I want to as well.

I was on a razor's edge deciding whether I loved you for your irreverence and general un-Wikipediance or hated you for it. I decided the former. ~ Flameviper 19:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)