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Tom's discussion

You are the vandal here, Wikidudeman.

I deemed that paragraph on steroids to be highly flawed and biased, and even provided the reasoning behind that on the talk page. That is not vandalism, that is simply fixing a flawed, subjective article.

Removing someone's post on a talk page, THAT is vandalism. Tomsintown 15:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC)



I refuted your reasoning on the talk page. See the talk page for more information. YOU removed MY post. You don't even know how to edit talk pages.Wikidudeman 15:35, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


It is true that I was unaware of how to properly place a post on a Misplaced Pages talk page. I still find that paragraph to be highly subjective and think it should be revised or removed, you can rant for all you wish. Tomsintown 15:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


The paragraph will REMAIN as it is until you prove your point in the talk page properly. If you continue to edit the article without conversing in the talk page and us settling on something. I will notify an ADMIN and have you taken care of for vandalism. What you're doing is against wikipedia policy.Wikidudeman 15:44, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

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Anabolic steroid

Yes, I was a bit annoyed about that. We were fixing a few minor details and somebody else came along and failed the GA nomination without giving any detailed feedback. You would be best to get in touch with that reviewer and ask what they think you need to do to improve the article. TimVickers 20:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Who did it?Wikidudeman 20:26, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

It was Adam Cuerden, if you have a look at the edit log. TimVickers 23:45, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Edit Summaries

I have noted that you often edit without an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This is considered an important guideline in Misplaced Pages. Even a short summary is better than no summary. An edit summary is even more important if you delete any text; otherwise, people may think you're being sneaky. Also, mentioning one change but not another one can be misleading to someone who finds the other one more important; add "and misc." to cover the other change(s). Thanks! Yankees76 18:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I'll try to do that from now on.Wikidudeman 18:32, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I've been having a hard time following all the changes to the anabolic steroid article, as it's a pretty controversial article, I just wanted to ensure your edits are clear for admins who monitor recent edits. Cheers! Yankees76 18:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't see it as a controversial article. Maybe a controversial topic in society but the article itself doesn't generate a lot of argument in it's talk section. I seem the be just about the only one making frequent edits to the article aside from your regular vandal who posts profanity and what not in it.Wikidudeman 18:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

John Edward

Nice contribution to making John Edward NPOV. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Belbo Casaubon (talkcontribs) 11:50, 25 December 2006 (UTC).

Clearwater, Florida scientologist police

HI, Wikidudeman. I've lived here longer than Scientology has been here. The claim seems proposterous. Is pro/con Scientology propaganda? What is the source for this? Is it creditable? Never read such a thing in the St Pete Times, and the Times has had a number of things to say about Scientology over the years. My one encounter with Scientology was when my car broke down, and they refused to let me use a phone to call for help. Thanks. Cheers, :) MikeReichold 02:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


Yes, I provided a source which is a link to a video done by xenu.net and they profile numeorus police officers who are also scientologists.Wikidudeman 05:05, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Request for Mediation

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Will-Re add later.Wikidudeman 13:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Testing..

Testing..Wikidudeman 21:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: RFM

The RFM will be deleted soon, it has been moved to the archives, and should be deleted in the near future. However, I personally cannot delete pages as I am not an admin here on enwiki. ^demon 03:42, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

AAVE

I'm saying this here because the talk page is getting pretty clouded. I think that the AfD you put up is inappropriate (because the issue of merging the article was under discussion) although I agree that Ebonics should not be a separate article from AAVE. I understand that you want the article named to Ebonics rather than AAVE but if it isn't, what do you lose? It seems to me that you're raising a big storm for what amounts to almost nothing. Ƶ§œš¹ 06:14, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

There is and never was an official request for merger for the "Ebonics article". I requested AAVE be moved to the "Ebonics" page but that was before there was an 'Ebonics article. I requested deletion after someone decided to make an article on that page with redundant information mostly already contained in the AAVE article or information that can easily be moved to the AAVE article. Technically the discussion going on at ] is a request for deletion not a request for merger though some advocate a merger.Wikidudeman 06:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

No, there wasn't an official anything but it was under discussion. Mergers are usually casual like that. Anyway, can't argue that you haven't tried things. Ƶ§œš¹ 08:08, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
I think we can wait a few more days before harassing them about agreeing to mediation on the dispute. In the meantime, take it slow. I think that Pinkville brings up a good point. We ought to address one issue at a time. Ƶ§œš¹ 04:43, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
We only have 6 more days for them to all sign up.Wikidudeman 08:01, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I would prefer it if you did not send messages addressed to me in other editors' talk pages, especially confrontational ones. I would also prefer that the next time you think I have violated any wikipedia policy or tenet to either report me in the appropriate fashion or not mention it at all.
I would also like to tell you that I'm pretty upset at you right now because my message to Hoary was not addressed to you and was designed to motivate him to participate in the mediation. I find your behavior towards Hoary to be inflammatory and if you believe that he is also acting in an inflammatory way to you then the proper thing to do is not respond in kind but try to be even more civil.
You don't need to respond to this and, for now, I'd prefer that you did not. Ƶ§œš¹ 04:27, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I only send messages that have relevance and usefulness. When I see people violate WP policy, I don't instantly report them for small infractions. I assume good faith and notify them of it. I don't know what message you're "upset with me" about but I can assure you that nothing malicious was meant from it. I will respond to this message since you posted it. Don't expect me not to respond to messages when you accuse me of being 'inflammatory'.Wikidudeman 04:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm talking about comment on Hoary's page. Please try to be easier to work with. Ƶ§œš¹ 05:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
You proclaim that you might want to try to take 'administrative action against me' due to disagreements and you're asking ME to be easier to work with?Wikidudeman 05:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
What exactly do you think I mean when I say "take administrative against" you? If you've done nothing wrong then nothing will happen. If you're acting like a dick then the most you'll get is a biting comment by an administrator, and if you're acting blatantly uncivil then threats like mine should be meant with behavioral modification rather than being more confrontational. Ƶ§œš¹ 06:04, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
You don't seem to understand how wikipedia works. A "biting comment from an administrator? In case you didn't know Hoary is an Admin. He has had nothing but 'biting' comments towards me.Wikidudeman 06:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Then what are you afraid of? Ƶ§œš¹ 06:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Who said I was afraid of anything?Wikidudeman 07:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Well you said I was threatening you. What, do you imagine, this threat would entail? Ƶ§œš¹ 07:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Threats don't have to be realistic to be threats. I could threaten to "vaporize you with my magical wand". It is impossible but it's still a threat.Wikidudeman 07:14, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
You're grasping at straws here. If you feel threatened by the statement that I may request that an administrator do something if you step out of line then so be it. It's a threat. I'll do it and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Lock your doors and bar up your windows. Ƶ§œš¹ 17:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Fundamental misunderstanding

I'm beginning to suspect the problem is that you really don't understand what AAVE is. It is not hip hop slang à la Snoop Dogg. If you want to hear good AAVE, walk into any black church on a Sunday and listen to the preacher's sermon.--Pharos 04:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I try to avoid Church at all costs, But the speech Snoop Dogg and other rappers use is indeed AAVE.Wikidudeman 04:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

It's related to regular AAVE, yes, but hip hop slang is very deliberately "playful", comparable with some of the strange fad slang that other subcultures use. Noone uses "-izzle" in church. If you want to look at typical AAVE use, don't look to Snoop Dogg; look to stuff like Go Down Moses.--Pharos 04:37, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I really haven't heard anyone use "izzle" in a serious sense other than Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg's form of speech is clearly AAVE excluding the words he himself made up. As it is with most 'hip hop' people.Wikidudeman 04:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
"Izzle" is only one example; a lot of hip hop terminology is slang and not regular AAVE. If you don't want go to a church, I suggest you tune one in on Sunday (where I live there are several churches on public access television), or find something online. For something really authentic, you can listen to some former slave recordings. Hopefully, it will become clear to you that most AAVE does not sound like hip hop slang.--Pharos 05:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I know what AAVE sounds like. I live in a predominantly African part of the south. However a lot of the "hip hop" terminology is being incorporated into AAVE. Most of the speakers of AAVE also use "hip hop" terminology such as "dawg" or "hommie g" etc.Wikidudeman 05:12, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


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I had responded to your query on my talk page. Regards, Shyam 06:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)