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Hi Diannaa,
I made definitional changes to the Esoteric Healing page. As a practitioner, I have a better definititional sense of what to include in the definition than what wiki had previously noted. I have obtained all permissions for the text cited. My goal was to help the public become more informed with clear definitions, broader understanding of what it is, how it works, how it is performed in addition to allopathic medicine. I'd like to work with you to refine the text here to encompass greater definitional understanding.
Thank you for collaborating. Editorinchief111 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editorinchief111 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Some of the content you added was copied from another website, and thus was a violation of Misplaced Pages's copyright policy. Please don't add copyright material to Misplaced Pages. If you think you can get the copyright holder's permission to post their content here and release this material under a compatible license, please see WP:Requesting copyright permission for an explanation of how to do it. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent.That said, Misplaced Pages has strict rules about what sources are acceptable for medical information. What we're looking for is reliable medical studies from scientists. This is true for alternative medicine as well as mainstream medicine. We don't want content that's been copied from sites such as https://www.theesotericbloom.com/about-esoteric-healing and we definitely don't want unsourced medical information. Please see Misplaced Pages:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) for full details.— Diannaa (talk) 17:20, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello again Diannaa, all of the material I cited on this page that you removed are written by medical doctors, peer reviewed materials, credentialed scienctists, or source material, e.g. Esoteric Healing by Djwahl Kuhl. What you are drawing from anothers webpage was indeed pulled from the material I cited and should be cited on her page too. My edits are valid and should be reinstated. Please work with me to update the context here, I am an expert on the topic and your information is not correct because it is not informed. Shall I start a completely separate page on Esoteric Healing and start with the citation of Lori Setterson's article too? I know the authors of the cited work. How to proceed so that Wiki reflects an accurate definition and reference material for the general public? Please advise... Editorinchief111 ---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editorinchief111 (talk • contribs) 00:59, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- I suggest you start an article in draft space. Please provide much more specific citations - don't just list a book - you will need to at a minimum provide the page number where you got the information, and ideally a full citation (author first and last name, title of book, publisher, publication date, ISBN). Remember Misplaced Pages is striving for a professional level of articles, especially with our medical content. Presenting pseudoscience as though it were actual medical content is just not going to happen, so sorry. Again I urge you to take a closer look at WP:MEDRS for the level of professionalism we are striving for. Please see Misplaced Pages:Drafts for information on how to prepare a draft and submit it for publication.— Diannaa (talk) 03:17, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Copyright issue on Cell sorting page
Dear Diannaa, thank you for your message. Could you please explain a bit better which the problem is? The information added to the page comes from open access peer reviewed articles that have been properly cited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.255.234.132 (talk) 10:48, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- The content I removed was copied from https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/eji.201970107, which is marked as "©2019 WILEY-VCH Verlag GmbH & Co. KGaA". That means it's copyright; sorry but you can't add text copied from a copyright article to Misplaced Pages. It's a violation of our copyright policy to do so.— Diannaa (talk) 13:23, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Marisa Siketa
The Marisa Siketa article has been the target of a death hoax vandal. Can you deal with it please? 1.136.108.245 (talk) 14:17, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks for reporting.— Diannaa (talk) 14:34, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Charles, Cardinal of Lorraine
I was in the middle of writing the lead, adding references, when I found out that a major portion of the article has been copied and pasted from Catholic Encyclopedia. User:Kmorozov was the one that copied and pasted the information from the Catholic Encyclopedia, on 27 March 2006.
- "The efforts of this cardinal to enforce his family's pretensions to the Countship of Provance, and his temporary assumption, with this object, of the title of Cardinal of Anjou were without success. He failed also when he attempted, in 1551, to dissuade Henry II from uniting the Dutchy of Lorraine to France. He succeeded, however, in creating for his family interests certain political alliances that occasionally seemed in conflict with each other. He coquetted, for instance, on the one hand with the Lutheran princes of Germany, and on the other, with his interview (1558) with the Cardinal de Granvelle (at Péronne), he initiated friendly relations between the Guises and the royal house of Spain. Thus the man who, as the Archbishop of Reims, crowned successively Henry II, Francis II, and Charles IX had a personal policy which was often at variance with that of the court. This policy rendered him at times an enigma to his contemporaries. The chronicler L'Estoile accused him of great duplicity; Brantôme spoke of his "deeply stained soul, churchman though he was", accused him of skepticism, and claimed to have heard him occasionally speak half approvingly of the Confession of Augsburg. He is also often held to be responsible for the outbreak of the Huguenot wars, and seems now and then to have attempted to establish the Inquisition in France. Many libelous pamphlets aroused against him strong religious and political passions. From 1560 at least twenty-two were in circulation and fell into his hands; they damaged his reputation with posterity as well as among his contemporaries. One of them, "La Guerre Cardinale" (1565), accuses him of seeking to restore to the Empire the three bishoprics of Metz, Toul, and Verdun, which had been conquered by Henry II. A discourse attributed to Théodore de Bèze (1566) denounced the pluralism of the cardinal in the matter of benefices." --House of Guise, Catholic Encyclopedia.
- "The efforts of this cardinal to enforce his family's pretensions to the Countship of Provence, and his temporary assumption, with this object, of the title of Cardinal of Anjou were without success. He failed also when he attempted, in 1551, to dissuade Henry II from uniting the Duchy of Lorraine to France. He succeeded, however, in creating for his family interests certain political alliances that occasionally seemed in conflict with each other. He coquetted for instance on the one hand with the Lutheran princes of Germany, and on the other his interview (1558) with the Cardinal de Granvelle (at Péronne) initiated friendly relations between the Guises and the royal house of Spain." --Charles, Cardinal of Lorraine
- "Although, as the Archbishop of Reims, he crowned successively Henry II, Francis II and Charles IX, he had a personal policy which was often at variance with that of the court. This policy rendered him at times an enigma to his contemporaries. The chronicler Pierre de L'Estoile accused him of great duplicity; Brantôme spoke of his "deeply stained soul, churchman though he was", accused him of skepticism and claimed to have heard him occasionally speak half approvingly of the Confession of Augsburg. He is also often held to be responsible for the outbreak of the Huguenot wars, and seems now and then to have attempted to establish the Inquisition in France. Many libelous pamphlets aroused against him strong religious and political passions. From 1560, at least twenty-two were in circulation and fell into his hands; they damaged his reputation with posterity as well as among his contemporaries. One of them, "La Guerre Cardinale" (1565), accuses him of seeking to restore to the Holy Roman Empire the three former prince-bishoprics of Metz, Toul and Verdun, in Lorraine, which had been conquered by Henry II. A discourse attributed to Théodore de Bèze (1566) denounced the pluralism of the cardinal in the matter of benefices." ----Charles, Cardinal of Lorraine
This is only part of the copy and pasting. --Kansas Bear (talk) 03:58, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Kansas Bear . Catholic Encyclopedia, published in 1910, is now in the public domain. s:Catholic Encyclopedia (1913)/House of Guise— Diannaa (talk) 20:39, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry but I don't know how to say this politely: Please don't copy-paste material you believe to be copyright onto my talk page. It only adds to the cleanup. Thanks.— Diannaa (talk) 20:44, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:46, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Re: Peter Kwasniewski page
Hi Diannaa, I was confused about the removal of the information on Peter Kwasniewski (https://en.wikipedia.org/Peter_Kwasniewski) as a composer that I added on 9 February. My goal was to provide more detailed information on this person as a composer. Was the problem that I cited from his website without putting it in quotations? If so, is there a way to recover my draft text and to fix it? It looks like you have deleted it in such a way that I cannot even access it, and I did not save a copy.Sibyl Dieudonnee (talk) 16:11, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Sibyl Dieudonnee. Thanks for your interest in working on Misplaced Pages. Regardless of the copyright issue, we don't want to reproduce the contents of the subject's website here, even if you put it in quotation marks. Everything you add to Misplaced Pages should be written in your own words please, and sourced to sources independent of the subject of the article.— Diannaa (talk) 20:42, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
WebXR copyrighted content
Hi Diannaa, I've got your message on the copywrighted WebXR content. I am the chair of W3C group that you marked as copywrigted content. We have long discussions about how to define the WebXR concepts and having them represented correctly is important to us. The previous content got a lot of the concepts wrong. The specification source is cited, as well as individual editors and the group members are all linked. Do you really need the concepts descriptions to be worded differently? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayssomething (talk • contribs) 08:43, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your interest in working on Misplaced Pages. There are a couple of problems with your submission. You cannot post copyright material on Misplaced Pages even if you are the copyright holder, unless special licensing permissions are in place. That is because Misplaced Pages aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please see Misplaced Pages:donating copyrighted materials which explains how it works.The second problem is conflict of interest. Writing an article about your own organisation or is strongly discouraged, as it is difficult to maintain the required neutral point of view. According to our terms of use, paid editors and people editing on behalf of their employer are required to disclose their conflict of interest by posting a notice on their user page or talk page. I have placed some information about conflict of interest on your user talk page. — Diannaa (talk) 14:39, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
Attribution and your tool
As someone interested in the retention of editors, I would like to discuss and hopefully remedy the propensity of your automated tool to apparently slap the last person to have touched a violating text. Could you please tell me what you are using? Thanks Elinruby (talk) 22:58, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Automated tools are part of detecting violations of our copyright policy. The place where bot-detected potential violations are listed is https://copypatrol.toolforge.org/en. The bot checks all Misplaced Pages edits over a certain size using a service called Turnitin, which has generously donated to Misplaced Pages access to their service. About 25% of the items it detects are false positives, so each item in the list must be carefully assessed by experienced editors to determine whether or not a violation has occurred. In your particular case, it detected the addition of text to Montricoux in French copied from this website to Misplaced Pages. As you know, someone had previously added a Google translation in English of the content of that webpage to the article back in 2013. A Google translation of a French webpage would not be detected by this tool, nor would it have been detected by its predecessor, CorenSearchBot. In fact it would be difficult to detect by human eyes either, as the link they provided as a citation does not actually point to the page where they got the content.— Diannaa (talk) 23:32, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Right, I work on a single screen and needed the original to figure out what the heck the machine language gibberish was even talking about in some places. And saved to-date work because my battery was low. That was part of the problem. But many of the corners where I wikignome are exceedingly obscure and unlikely to be visited in a given 3-hour period, is what I was accustomed to thinking.
- I sort of understand why pasting a large amount of text would be a red flag. I’d write this off as an edge case to “stuff happens” if I hadn’t already also previously been wrongly flagged in a situation that did not involve translation. If I understand what you are saying, though, it matched the French and not the English because the text of the Google Translate was not identical. Aha. That’s one area where improvement might be possible. I will mull that.
- I will also take a look at those tools. They sound proprietary, but I will give this some thought. Trying to turn my fury into something positive. Meanwhile you should know that I have ceased all pro bono Wikignoming. I have work in progress to finish and a request for help, so let’s face it, I myself am probably not going to quit. But anecdotally, when I try to recruit somebody I know irl, they say they already left because they got yelled at. And if it’s just going to get me wikiscolded, the hell if I will dutifully fix up articles because they’re in a queue. And I would say that 25% false positive is a pretty high rate.
- I will probably have other questions and will do my very best to be civil while asking them. I have a feeling I am not quite managing that here, and apologize for that. I do recognize the importance of the work you are trying to do Elinruby (talk) 03:17, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Horror film article
Dear Dianna would you be able to help Andrzejbanas and Arcahaeoindris to restore the 2010s section and the 2020s section for the horror film article? Dudhrrthefourth (talk) 14:03, 5 March 2022 (UTC)