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==Shigemura theory of Kim's 2003 death==
Why is it even included? The guy clearly didn't have a clue. ] (]) 05:53, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
:If it had "baffled foreign intelligence agencies for years" it sounds like a highly relevant issue, even if it turned out to be false. <span style="font-family: serif; letter-spacing: 0.1em">– ]</span> (] ⋅ ]) 07:24, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
::If there is a record of their "bafflement" aside from Shigemura's own self-promotion, maybe a more representative set of examples can be mentioned. ] (]) 04:12, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
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Of the three sources cited for this alleged name, the Chosun Ilbo is (for once!) the most substantial, presenting an interview with a resident of the Russian city where KIS was stationed. There is no mention of "Soviet records" nor "Irsenovich," and even if the Soviets recorded his name that way for cultural reasons, it wouldn't prove that he was not originally named KJI. The Life source, retrieved from the Internet Archive, comments only in passing and also without mentioning records. The CNN citation is useless because it provides no date. 67.180.143.89 (talk) 03:00, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
A question about Kim Jong Il's birth year.
I have a question. Is it probable that he was indeed born in 1942 and because of the east asian age reconing system, the soviet authorities mistakenly recorded his year of birth as 1941? Παραλλάξιος (talk) 13:37, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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