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India-related FPs I

• Indian vultures, (Gyps indicus), in a nest on the tower of the Chaturbhuj Temple, Orchha, Madhya Pradesh. The vulture became nearly extinct in India in the 1990s from having ingested the carrion of diclofenac-laced cattle.
• The bank myna is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent.
• The vulnerable Malabar frog is endemic to the Western Ghats.
• The endangered Nilgiri tahr is endemic to the Western Ghats. Shown here is a female in a national park in Kerala.

India-related FPs II

• The brahminy kite (Haliastur indus) hunts for fish and other prey near the coasts and around inland wetlands.
• The lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) is the Indian national flower. Hindus and Buddhists regard it as a sacred symbol of enlightenment.
• The Indian peafowl (Pavo cristatus) is the Indian national bird. It roosts in moist and dry-deciduous forests, cultivated areas, and village precincts.
• The Pahalgam valley in Jammu and Kashmir is covered with a temperate coniferous forest.

India-related FPs III

• A Toda tribal hut exemplifies Indian vernacular architecture.
• Bangles on display in Bangalore India
• A Sadhu and a picture of Siva in Kayasth Tola, Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh in Northern India
• The pushkarani, or tank, located on the eastern side of Krishna temple in Hampi, Karnataka, the seat of the Vijayanagara Empire

India-related FPs IV

• Large Gautama Buddha statue in Buddha Park of Ravangla, Sikkim
• A Jain woman washes the feet of Bahubali Gomateswara at Shravanabelagola, Karnataka. The Bahubali idol is 18 metres (58 ft) high and is carved out of a single rock on top of a hill.
• A Chola bronze depicting Nataraja, who is seen as a cosmic "Lord of the Dance" and representative of Shiva
• A sixteenth century rendering of a scene from the Ramayana, an ancient Sanskrit epic.

India-related FPs V

• Paintings at the Ajanta Caves in Aurangabad, Maharashtra, 6th century
• The Agasthiyamalai range, constituting the southern end of the Western Ghats, as seen from the rainshadow region of the southwest monsoon in Tirunelveli, Tamil Nadu.
• A beach off the Arabian Sea in Puvar, Kerala. The Arabian Sea is the northwestern region of the Indian Ocean, bounded by the Arabian and Indian peninsulas.
• Flowing through its rocky terrain near Hampi is the Tungabhadra river, the major right bank tributary of the Krishna river, a peninsular river, which empties into the Bay of Bengal. The coracles, made of wicker, are traditionally covered with hide, their circular shape preventing them from overturning in rivers with rocky outcrops.

India-related FPs VI

• The recycling industry in India, a Varanasi paper bag seller
• An example of the Chinese fishing nets of Cochin. Fisheries in India is a major industry in its coastal states, employing over 14 million people. The annual catch doubled between 1990 and 2010.
• A tea garden in Sikkim. India, the world's second largest-producer of tea, is a nation of one billion tea drinkers, who consume 70% of India's tea output.
• A daily wage worker in a salt field. The average minimum wage of daily labourers is around Rs.100 per day

India-related FPs VII

• A bharatnatyam concert in 2014
• A Bondo woman walks to a weekly market in Chhattisgarh.
• A woman in Bundi, Rajasthan
• An ascetic in Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh

India-related FPs VIII

• The tomb of Itmad Ud Daulah, Agra,
• A Hindu bride
• The interior of San Thome Basilica, Chennai, Tamil Nadu. Christianity is believed to have been introduced to India by the late 2nd century by Syriac-speaking Christians.
• A Sikh pilgrim at the Harmandir Sahib, or Golden Temple, in Amritsar, Punjab

India-related Classic Pictures-I

• A farmer in Rajasthan milks his cow. Milk is India's largest crop by economic value. Worldwide, as of 2011, India had the largest herds of buffalo and cattle, and was the largest producer of milk.
• Indian agriculture dates from the period 7,000–6,000 BCE, employs two thirds of the national workforce, and is second in farm output worldwide. Above, a farmer works an ox-drawn plow in Kadmati, West Bengal.
• Schoolchildren in Chambal, Madhya Pradesh eating a mid-day meal. The Mid-Day Meal Scheme attempts to lower rates of childhood malnutrition in India.
• Cricket is the most popular game among India's masses. Shown here is an instance of street cricket.

India-related FPs IX

• Asfi Masjid at the Bara Imambara complex, Lukcnow, India
• Chhota Imambara, Lucknow, India
• Taj Mahal mosque, Agra, India
• Bangalore panorama

India-related FPs X

• Red Weaver ant, Oecophylla smaragdina in Bangalore, India
• Female Telamonia dimidiata in the Lalbagh Botanical gardens, Bangalore, India
• Mysore Palace in the morning
• Indian Olympic athlete, Irfan Kolothum Thodi

India-related FPs XI

• Grammodes geometrica, Bangalore, India
• Mumtaz Ahmed Khan founder of Al-Ameen Educational Society
• Al-Ameen College of Pharmacy, Bangalore, India
• Kumar Anish, Indian yoga specialist

India-related FPs XII

• Taj Mahal at the golden hour
• Bara Imambara, Lucknow, India
• Salman Khurshid, Indian politician belonging to the Indian National Congress
• Indian palm squirrel, Bangalore, India

India-related FPs XIII

• Odissi
• Mohiniyattam
• Kuchipudi
• Arundhati Roy

India-related FPs XIV

• Chandiroor Divakaran
• Karnataka High Court, Bangalore
• Dharmaraya Swamy Temple a Hindu temple in Bangalore
• Bangalore Town Hall

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October 2021

Buddha related FPs I

• Battered religious figures stand watch on a hill above a tattered valley. Nagasaki, Japan. September 24, 1945
• 17th century Painting on cloth of of Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis with Bodhisatvas in background.
• The Gathering of Four Buddhas. 1562 CE, National Museum of Art, Korea.
• Two women walk past the huge cavity where one of the ancient Buddhas of Bamiyan used to stand, June 17, 2012. The monumental statues were built in A.D. 507 and 554

Buddha related FPs II

• Monk walks in the morning after the rain in front of the Temple of the Emerald Buddha (Wat Phra Kaew), part of the Grand Palace, Bangkok, Thailand.
• Buddha Amitabha in His Pure Land of Suvakti, Central Tibet. 18th century; Ground mineral pigment on cotton
• English: Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes. Tibet. Date 19th century
• Chiang Mai, Thailand: Buddhist Manuscript Library and Museum

Regarding The Kashmir Files

Hi. In nearly all my interactions with you on Misplaced Pages, I have usually written one comment and then disappeared, (for whatever personal reason not important here). With regard to editing this article The Kashmir Files, I intend to complete conversations on the talk page. This is with regard to the GA review comments. While you haven't changed the status of the GAN template to fail, maybe signaling you may give some time before doing so, I will continue editing the article irrespective. There are 7 archive pages. I will go through them. DTM (talk) 04:04, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

A subject which is several weeks old, the critical assessment of which is still in flux, the subject comprising not factual events, but art involving interpretation of past events that has become a current affairs topic, whose article, moreover, on Misplaced Pages has evolved in light of the belabored back and forth of dozens of editors over nuances within sentences, even clauses, is not in the settled state or stage in which it can be substantially changed in a process that is different from the normal talk page free-for-all. No one is saying you can't edit it. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 09:02, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Oh, I see, I didn't realize that a template needed to be changed. Thanks for letting me know. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:40, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Good_article_nominations/templates says, templates are not required. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:45, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Hi F&f. In this article, should "centred" be used instead of "centered", given that the template has "Indian English" in the source page? Regards, Mathsci (talk) 05:47, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, it should. I'm not surprised. It seems to happen all the time. I'll check. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 01:10, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

I must say I've noticed that "centre" seems to be dropping out of IE. Or are all our "Indian" editors actually US-based or educated? Johnbod (talk) 01:43, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Sidney Greenbaum (who despite his latter-day reputation) did write with Randolph Quirk the seminal English grammar of its time, and directed the UCL Corpus of Current English, said somewhere that Indian English could have the chance of becoming a regional variety — maybe not approaching Australian English, but yet with its own grammars, dictionaries, and usage guides, — were Indians to show confidence in their language. They did but the internet shattered it. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:19, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

I conjecture this could be the reason for the lack of any significant English fiction in India today. What there is is not rooted. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:29, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Need little help.

Hi, Fowler. I am working on Maharashtra and have stuck on a sentence. I want to paraphrase it, as it sounds a little odd and is grammatically incorrect. I am unable to come up with something good.

"Before Indian independence, the state was ruled by most of the mainstream political entities that have existed in ancient and medieval India including the Satavahana dynasty, Rashtrakuta dynasty, Western Chalukyas, Deccan sultanates, Mughals, Maratha Empire, and the British."

How would you paraphrase it, if you were to paraphrase it? Akshaypatill (talk) 05:46, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Well, it's clearly not true as it stands (Cholas etc etc), & what's a "mainstream political entity" anyway? I'd just say "Before Indian independence, the state was ruled by a succession of rulers, including the Satavahana dynasty, Rashtrakuta dynasty, Western Chalukyas, Deccan sultanates, Mughals, Maratha Empire, and the British Raj." Johnbod (talk) 01:48, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Johnbod makes very good points. There are POV issues. The others were never quite as "mainstream" as the Delhi Sultanate, the Mughals, and the British; they reached the extent and heft of only regional "entities." The Mughals weren't medieval, at least not wholly; perhaps they were early-modern overall. The East India Company was early-modern, its last years even modern, and the Raj was modern. The bigger problem in the sentence might be the outsized claim. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 01:55, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

But as a point of grammar: You'd want the past perfect, "had been," instead of "was (ruled)" when you refer to events leading up to an event in the past. If the judgment of "mainstream" is the judgment of today, i.e. not contemporaneous, and you had to repeat the form of the sentence, you could write: Before Indian independence, the state had been ruled by most of the mainstream political entities that are thought to have existed in ancient and medieval India including the Satavahana dynasty, ... Fowler&fowler«Talk» 01:56, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Johnbod, User:Fowler&fowler, thanks to both of you. I didn't know these points and was just paraphrasing things for better coherency and readability. I should have checked the sources. Thanks again. Akshaypatill (talk) 02:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Very welcome @Akshaypatill: Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:38, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Muhammad Iqbal

Hi, it is to notify you about this change to your version of the lead. Don't know whether South Asian is a better term but Kashmiri in the lead surely isn't per WP:ETHNICITY. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Thanks. It seems to have stabilized back in the previous version. I agree Kashmiri is not the correct characterization, as he did not speak Kashmiri, and did not write in Kashmiri. His most notable lines about Kashmir were written in Persian. His mother as you probably know was Punjabi of somewhere down to Jhelum valley in what is today the Pakistani province of Punjab, but I don't think he wrote anything in Punjabi (or Lehnda) either. Off the top of my head, his grandfather, I think, or great-grandfather was supposedly Kashmiri Hindu, who converted to Islam. There are tales that the conversion happened under the gun as it were, the way out of a misdimeanor, but those tales are neither here nor there. (My roommate in college came from a Boston Brahmin family; an ancestor had been a sheep-thief who was given a chance of choosing between going to the gallows or to America ... All fables, essentially.) If I find Iqbal's lines on Kashmir, I'll post. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:03, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

I don't think speaking a certain language warrants inclusion of the ethnicity per above policy. Though I'm kinda OK with the South Asian part, but wouldn't mind if it is removed since British-ruled India is already written in the lead sentence. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:52, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you

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		I have read so many articles on various complex topics related to historical events etc and your exceptional editing skills have improved a lot of these articles. This is perfect for your contribution, your value to Misplaced Pages cannot be summed up in two lines. Sir, Keep continuing the great work. Respect !! RS6784 (talk) 14:35, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

What a pleasant surprise. Thank you very much. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:38, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

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