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Articles planned

• Norman H. Horowitz Caltech biology professor

Projects underway

• Objections to evolution drafts
  • falsifiability
  • Evolution as theory and fact rewrite
  • evolution as religion draft
  • Level of support for creationism Name controversy
  • History of evolution additions
• Evolution Discussions

Articles in need of help

Pain scale, Dol, Dolorimeter, Stress (medicine), Post traumatic stress disorder, Hans Selye

Amazing website

Advances of the ancient world

Using a video game as your main reference

Abus Gun, and I suspect several other contributions by the main editor, draw on video games as their main sources of information and reference. Is this reasonable or advisable?--Filll 15:11, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Natural selection

... is the current science collaboration of the month and will hopefully be substantively improved in the near future, so if you want to write about evolution and take a break from arguing over the title for the level of support article, you should stop by. Opabinia regalis 03:58, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 11 February, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article List of world's largest wooden ships, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Laïka 13:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

It ran from 12:59 UTC to 19:15 UTC (); the DYK was updated pretty quickly yesterday, but it has been archived. Laïka 11:17, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

A war on science

Hi, just noticed your comment at Talk:Creation-evolution controversy#Johnson in A War on Science: have you any links to the Regents Lecture right after he published his book "Darwin on Trial"? My curiosity is piqued, though I've not really got the time to get really expert on the ghastly subject. While the BBC documentary didn't hammer home Johnson as a liar, to me that brief section is shockingly candid in setting out the aim to subvert science. But no doubt you chappies hear that sort of thing all the time – I'm not sure if I've ever met a creationist, thought when two Jehovah's Witnesses came to the door I shocked them by not slamming the door on their toes, and instead asked what they thought about evolution. We had a nice chat, and they didn't seem very sure though one of them thought human's weren't descended from lesser creatures. The other pointed out that science didn't explain where it all came from, then when asked if he knew where God came from he amiably acknowledged the point that it was the same problem moved back one, and they parted amicably. They just didn't seem very clued up about it, but to be fair the sort of behaviour you seem to have come across would not get them far in Scotland. However no doubt creationists are about somewhere, trying to subvert science.. . dave souza, talk 21:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Look here for Regents Lecture:

• Darwinism on Trial. Address at University of California, Irvine, 1992--Filll 03:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about the monkey song, at 2 minutes into A War on Science someone says "the monkey song, I don't know what else to call it" and as a school bus goes along a country road, children's voices sing "I'm no kin to a monkey on a rope, a monkey's no kin to me tada da" etc. A catchy piece of daft propaganda. .. dave souza, talk 00:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

If I was from the UK, I would not be too smug. Look at Truth in Science for example.--Filll 03:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Maybe Dave should meet Dr. Monty White; the UK's version of Ken Ham. The zealots are global. --Random Replicator 15:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Answers in Genesis started in Queensland, Australia. George McCready Price was Canadian. And so on...--Filll 15:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, to clarify I didn't mean to imply they're entirely absent here – the Time ed supp reports there's even one lecturing at Glasgow uni, and UK unis are starting to introduce compulsory lectures on creationism and intelligent design into zoology and genetics courses. And we're getting a Ken Ham tour round Scottish cities, but don't think I'll be going along. There's a modern church hall / cafe / bookshop in Greenock, and a while ago I admired but failed to purchase for our boy a "how the dinosaurs fitted on the ark" children's book. However, if I remember your account correctly, having a work colleague go in the huff because you're insufficiently creationist would be considered astonishing anywhere I've worked. Mind you, there haven't even been open conflicts about more serious religious issues, such as Rangers FC versus Celtic FC. Is Glasgow the only city where the Orangemen wear blue? ... dave souza, talk 16:20, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Not quite sure what "having a work colleague go in the huff because you're insufficiently creationist" means. Isn't English wonderful? So many regionalisms.--Filll 16:58, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that, just a vague memory of you telling the tale of some female at work getting upset at you and refusing to speak to you after you'd defended evolution, or something along those lines. If my memory's at fault, my apologies. Don't know if you read the LA Times, but this article from Feb 12th caught my eye, and wow that's scary. Puts me in mind to try looking for some local creationists to chat to, but not sure where I'd find any around here. Terribly un-British to discuss religion. ... dave souza, talk 21:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Baraminology

Er, Filll, I wasn't suggesting Baraminology be deleted completely, just merged (as it is already, in fact), with Created kind, so that we aren't reduplicating a lot of effort on two articles that heavily overlap. Adam Cuerden 21:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

An absolutely amazing webpage

"Creationism is not the alternative to Evolution, ignorance is", John Stear, No Answers in Genesis

--Filll 21:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

You're going to drive yourself crazy reading this garbage. But of course I read it. Orangemarlin 22:39, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I just about died laughing reading it. But it is like crack or crystal meth. It will rot your brain.--Filll 22:53, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the whole website is very well done. I just don't get Creationists. Orangemarlin 23:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Kandice Pelletier

I see you've noticed the "little" debate going on :P. Care to offer your opinion on the talk page? I don't care if you agree or disagree with me, I would just like an independent opinion! -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 22:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Done.--Filll 22:29, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

See, reading those websites did drive you crazy. Now you're editing beauty pageants. It's sad to see what they did to you. Orangemarlin 22:40, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

The truth about Genesis and the origin of life

You have to read this one:

--Filll 03:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Conflict thesis

I'm not a philosopher (and I really don't play one on TV). You're the scientist, so what is this about? Is this a crazy article, or is it really a philosophy? Orangemarlin 17:01, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I am not philosopher either, and there is an awful lot of this kind of stuff here, that is for sure. Seems like too much to me.--Filll 17:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Creation according to Genesis

Huh???? I was just walking through Misplaced Pages, trying to confirm whether I really believe that this encyclopedia is Christian biased, and I'm beginning to be convinced. This article is a travesty! It's not encylopedic, it's unbalanced, and it doesn't even pretend to bring in a literal viewpoint of Genesis. This is frustrating. Orangemarlin 17:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Aw thank you!

Thank you so much! You don't know how badly I needed that. Wow! Have you seen this? I really feel I'm going loopy. Another thing is User:PageantUpdater/Evrik conflict which I'm using to try and calm myself down by objectively documenting the entire crazy episode. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 23:40, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes I saw. It seems sort of nuts to me.--Filll 23:53, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi

I'm just thinking that I need to cool down a little, so needing to do a little more than editing history related articles, because with those last days happenings in those articles I'm fealing I'll kick some butts if I don't cool down. So, if you think any article need improvement (content based, as I can't be of any help in grammar). I'm a scientist and can help on biology, biostatistics, environment. You sound to be interested on evolutionary stuff, so maybe you would know. Fad (ix) 02:48, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion, mutation needs to be cleaned up and made more accessible. I also think the same is true of gene and genetics and also gene. I also think that introduction to genetics needs work. I would also ask User:Opabinia regalis for her opinion and a few others perhaps. They might see your request on my page and respond. What articles have you edited that are driving you nuts? --Filll 03:03, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you on the mutation article. I also found Cyanobacteria article to not be on such a good shape either. Fad (ix) 21:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

As for your question, lets just say they're nationalist driven articles. Not science related. Fad (ix) 21:59, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I tried to help out with black people and eventually I gave up. Just too many angry people with too many conflicting agendas.--Filll 02:35, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Your edits to Judaism and evolution

Hi, I've been working on Articles missing a category possibly due to vandalism; I noticed that you deleted categories from the article Judaism and evolution without listing a reason in your edit summary. I re-added the categories, but please feel free to edit those categories if necessary and provide a rational in your edit summary or on the talk page. Thanks, -sthomson06 (Talk) 21:15, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Oops, I forgot to mention that I'm assuming you deleted them accidentally! Let me know. -sthomson06 (Talk) 21:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I had no idea I had removed a category from Judaism and evolution. It was obviously some sort of mistake and I apologize. I am glad you caught that! --Filll 02:37, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

This is odd. I went over to look at the article, and I found that I had edited it and left a comment. I don't recall ever seeing this article. Orangemarlin 03:44, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

No problemo, Filll. I'm just trying to be thorough. I run into this problem sometimes with newer Wikipedians, but you are obviously not a newcomer! Happy editing, -sthomson06 (Talk) 04:37, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Amazing discussion

You have to go see this section and read all the links. Incredible!--Filll 01:35, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Ottoman gun

The article is not clear, but this is real world, adapted for a game. They did use such very wide bore inaccurate guns. 05:35, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe it might have some element of truth in it. I believe it might be named after a town in Turkey. However, the references are fairly scanty and I could not find much. However, I do not know what should be done; if it should be left alone or deleted. I looked for more material to improve it but so far I have not been successful.--Filll 13:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

help me

{{helpme|we need Level of support for evolution to be protected}}--Filll 18:52, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

You can request protection of a page at WP:RFPP (Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection); first you might want to read Misplaced Pages:Protection policy to see if the page qualifies for it. (There's a lot of 'rv' in the edit history, so protection to stop an edit war might be reasonable, but I don't know much about the situation.) --ais523 19:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you.--Filll 19:03, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Your input is requested at this AfD

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Level of support for evolution--Filll 19:06, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Evrik

Would you care to take a look at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Evrik and leave a comment if you feel it is appropriate? Thank you. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 23:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Would you possibly be able to "certify" the RFC...? I'm not exactly sure what the process is but I'm worried it will be deleted... -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 08:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC)