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User:108.48.147.41 on Funland (Rehoboth Beach, Delaware)

Articles: Funland (Rehoboth Beach, Delaware) & Talk:Funland (Rehoboth Beach, Delaware)

Main account:

108.48.147.41 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Sub accounts:

2600:1003:B02C:BDAA:7C55:4EA7:9D7B:B438 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

2600:1003:B00C:94D7:94B3:B000:8255:A350 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

I regrettably make this report to the noticeboard as I see no progression in the discussion of the article aforementioned or change in behavior from the user. Although this matter is not technically urgent to the article in question (as it is temporarily locked), I have no doubt content will be reverted once the article will be unlocked. I want to see how a third party, or administrator, wants to proceed given the circumstances.

The IP was blocked once for edit warring, found here. After the article was unlocked, the IP restored the version not-agreed upon and did not follow advice from the article's talk page given by me and several users:

• First revert at 18:55, 12 May 2022‎
• Second revert at 20:12, 12 May 2022‎

After such, the talk was moved back to the article's talk page and IP's talk page to come to an understanding, which led to IP stating: Blocking does nothing as there are plenty of ways around it. Keeping page protected forever is not a smart option either. Keep in mind, we can see whenever protected expires so each time it ends, it WILL be restored if needed. via IP's talk page (quote source included in both diff links).

In an effort to rebuild consensus, another thread was started to discuss the conflict of interest that was inadvertently disclosed by the IP and sources found within the article that is not reliable. This resulted in little consensus building and uncivil language being used from the IP. I agree with other editors that the language was unacceptable, with quips such as:

• "As for your request for me to stop making sure the page is correct, the only way that threat will be retracted is if the page no longer exists...As for if its protected, I will be keeping a close eye on protection expiration and making corrections as soon as protection expires." – 108.48.147.41 (talk) 07:07, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
• "You and other editors have said, the writing isn't encyclopedic. OK, that's fine, rather than just revert and remove the stuff, go through it and change it to sound encyclopedic..." – 108.48.147.41 (talk) 10:44, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
• "The edit war, or disrupting the encyclopedia as you people are calling it, is how you look at it. I look at it as just trying to protect the article and make sure nothing important is missing, not an edit war or disruption. If we're going based on you people's logic though with calling it an edit war, then of course the war wages on as the only way to end a war is with a treaty, and we've not reached that, at least not to this point, so it's inevitable, that the war must wage on." – 108.48.147.41 (talk) 10:44, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
• "I do hope we come to a resolution, but if not, then I guess we're in for an indefinite edit war." – 108.48.147.41 (talk) 10:44, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
• "...however, don’t think you guys are able to judge what’s important bout Funland, as you don’t know enough bout the park. Nothing wrong with that, you guys just aren’t educated enough on it. The reason the edit war would be indefinite is because people always say, you gotta fight for what’s right, and that’s all I’m doing, fighting for what’s right." – 2600:1003:B00C:94D7:94B3:B000:8255:A350 (talk) 02:07, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
• "As for it not sounding encyclopedic, I’ve said this multiple times now, but I’ll say it again, I’m not saying don’t edit the article, I’m just saying, if you do, mainly focus on grammatical errors like bad wording, extra words, typos, etc." – 2600:1003:B00C:94D7:94B3:B000:8255:A350 (talk) 02:07, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Seeing this, I took to the IP's talk page to address the language. With reinforcing comments such as: Honestly though, I'm not concerned about making potential enemies with other editors, my goal is to make the Funland gets the respect and credit its earned and deserves. So, if in order to accomplish that goal, I have to make enemies with other editors, and be the last man standing, I'm cool with that. I'm aware this could go on indefinitely, but i'm in this for the long haul. I know it's not gonna be anytime soon, but eventually I'm confident that the correct version of the article will stand. Even if that means no other editor is even paying attention to the page. – 108.48.147.41 (talk) 02:15, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

It seems simple, they are WP:NOTHERE to build an encyclopedia with other editors. Adog (Talk・Cont) 15:14, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Because of the repeated promises to resume the disruptive editing as soon as the semi-protection expires, I have extended the semi-protection of Funland (Rehoboth Beach, Delaware) to indefinite. And I have blocked the IP for three months. Cullen328 (talk) 16:14, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

The two sub-account IPs are now globally locked by another administrator. Cullen328 (talk) 16:18, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

The description of edit war. SoyokoAnis - talk | PLEASE PING 16:21, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. Adog (Talk・Cont) 16:33, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. --*Fehufangą (✉ Talk · ✎ Contribs) 22:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

IP socked , and continued to threaten to sock and edit war and has now lost user talk page access. Meters (talk) 06:09, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

No Legal Threats violation

Bluelobe (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

, , and . Repeatedly dropping "could be liable for defaming" and similar verbiage. Zaathras (talk) 15:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

I was going to leave them a warning about forum shopping when I saw the notice for this ani. Note they are an SPA whose sole contribution has been trying to get us to be less negative about Mr Campbell, yet has failed to provide ant substantive RS contesting what we repeat about him. Slatersteven (talk) 15:05, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

• Orangemike, you have indeffed Bluelobe for making legal threats but I cannot see where he has done so. Indeed, he has explicitly denied doing so. He has said that he believes the John Campbell (YouTuber) article is defamatory and could open Misplaced Pages up to legal action, but that is not the same thing as threatening to take legal action against Misplaced Pages or an editor. See Misplaced Pages:No_legal_threats#Defamation.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 17:36, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
  • With all due respect, I would disagree. Were it a passing reference, I think you'd have it right. But a concerted effort in the mode of "nice website you've got there, would be a shame if something happened to it" can certainly, to me, appear to be a violation. As ever, reasonable minds may differ. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 17:41, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
    • Moreover, they took the time to trot over to the talk page of litigation involving the Wikimedia Foundation and post their grievances there, which to me is about as close as it gets to an implied legal threat, even if he says that was not his intention. There's no evidence that the user is here to contribute constructively to an encyclopedia. WaltCip-(talk) 17:46, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
    • That doesn't mean, of course, that we should overlook the legal threat if there is actually something wrong with the article.--WaltCip-(talk) 17:47, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
      • It may not have been a threat of them taking legal action, it was the use of a threat that someone else might in order to get us to alter an article to their liking. It was an attempt at imdimidation. Nor once by at least three timrs. As such it violated the spirit (do not use legal threats to get your way) of wp:NLT. Slatersteven (talk) 10:05, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
• See Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard, Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/John Campbell (YouTuber), Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1090#Dr Philip Taylor and Misplaced Pages:Fringe theories/Noticeboard/Archive 86#Meat explosion at John Campbell. Uncle G (talk) 18:36, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

  The edit at Talk:Litigation involving the Wikimedia Foundation is what pushed it way over the edge, however weaselly the language. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:01, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

OK let's put the issue of legal threats to one side, they are an wp:spa who posted (word for word) the same screed on three different talk pages/noticeboards (wp:forumshopping?). At the very least it is a form of wp:bludgeoning as it is clear the changes they want to make had been rejected by multiple users and thus (having failed to get their way) they took it to multiple other venues. Their arguments rely on wp:or whilst ignoring the fact that every claim we include is backed by RS (in some cases more than one). They are a time sink that refuses to drop it and is here for only one reason (so may also be a violation of wp:nothere). Slatersteven (talk) 10:17, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

I will add with this there may also be wp:coi issues, as none of the blocking admins were involved in the dispute. As well as a number of other issues (all relating to wp:nothere), if the block is remove they will be a net drain on time. Slatersteven (talk) 11:54, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Who's "we" in here I wonder. Alexbrn (talk) 12:16, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Likely a synecdoche to refer to fans of John Campbell that watch his YouTube videos. WaltCip-(talk) 14:56, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Disruptive Latinization of phonetics at Mingrelian language

• 185.143.178.130 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Mingrelian language (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

It seems this anonymous user is edit warring disruptively by changing phonetics to their Latinized version without explanation. Talk page warnings from both myself and HistoryofIran have not helped; the anonymous user continues without relent to make their changes. It appears they're exhibiting similar behavior on other pages related to languages in Georgia. At this time, I think action needs to be taken. Jalen Folf (talk) 21:10, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Yep. This IP has so far made 0 edit summaries and used the talk page 0 times. They also attempted to change sourced information at Colchis several times --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:30, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Blocked for 1 week. --Jayron32 12:01, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Inexpiable posting on my talk page multiple times despite my request that he stop. Also ignoring WP:STATUSQUO, and possibly using a sockpuppet/meatpuppet

Inexpiable has posted on my talk page after multiple requests from me asking him to stop.

In addition, an account that is 7 days old has suddenly sprung out of nowhere and made the same reverts to two articles that Inexpiable made to my changes. See Gabrielle103's contributions. It seems extremely likely that the two accounts are connected, and I plan to file a sockpuppet report. Wes sideman (talk) 22:08, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Per what I've posted here: Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Wes sideman reported by User:Inexpiable (Result:_) This user has been extremely toxic and engaging in an ongoing edit war since the end of 2020 with another user. He has refused to gain consensus on the talk page of the article in question: Talk:Execution of Nathaniel Woods. I tried to seek a middle ground between both users and he resorted to continuing to revert the article as well as modifying other articles that I used as examples to suit his argument, as seen here: and here: .

Why he is making such a big deal over the word "drug" and "crack" is beyond me. I was merely trying to gain WP:Consensus which he refused to participate in and merely changed the article wording again, as he has done since end of 2020, to suit his agenda. I listed examples in the edit warring report I made that shows he has been engaging in a long term edit war since the end of 2020 with TheXuitts. Inexpiable (talk) 22:28, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

More examples of his ongoing edit war, and this is with another user, not myself:

Original revision: . First time Wes changed it: .

More examples of him reverting it here over the past few years and months: , , . The examples are from end of 2020, 2021, March 2022, and yesterday. Inexpiable (talk) 22:32, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

I see you're trying to distract from the fact that you and Gabrielle103 are obviously connected in some way. Wes sideman (talk) 22:39, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm not a sockpuppet account. I was patrolling the recent edits and saw that Wes has been edit warring, so I reverted their changes back to Inexpiable's (I say their because I'm not sure what Wes' pronouns are, if they have them that is). This is clearly visible from my recent contributions, in which I have edited multiple articles on or around the same minute as the previous edit (such as Dangerfield Newby, 2022 Lebanese general election and Population displacements in Israel after 1948). I'm just some rando woman lol Gabrielle103 (talk) 22:40, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

That account is 7 days old, has made about 30 edits to articles in that time, and it had an astounding amount of expertise about wikipedia right from Day 1. Wes sideman (talk) 22:52, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

@Wes sideman: I have no opinion on the merits of your accusation, but if you believe you have sufficient evidence, you should reopen Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/DrAcHeNWiNgZz (Inexpiable's previous username). Otherwise, you need to cease accusing Inexpiable of socking because it constitutes a personal attack.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:03, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, Bbb23. I actually already did that about a half hour ago. Wes sideman (talk) 23:16, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Would it constitute a personal attack to me as well? Gabrielle103 (talk) 23:12, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

If you weren't a sock, no. However, the SPI (now moved to Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Ariana Williscroft) has already found Gabrielle103 as a sock of the new case name user and has been summarily indeffed. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). 02:20, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Since DrAcHeNWiNgZz no longer exists, shouldn't a clerk move the page to Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Inexpiable if a new case is open? casualdejekyll 23:44, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

No we are different people. I am based in the UK. Nice try at trying to discredit my arguments though. Inexpiable (talk) 22:42, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm based in the UK too, just to put that out there. But I appreciate you clearing things up about how we're different people though :) Gabrielle103 (talk) 22:45, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

@Inexpiable: per WP:NOBAN, if an editor has asked you to stay away from their talk page you need to do so unless you have a very good reason not to do so. Posting required notifications is one of the only times you have a good reason to post when you were asked to stay away. So this edit was likely okay . But these edits were clearly not coming after these clear requests . The second one coming right after a second request was particularly silly since by that stage you'd already given an edit warring warning (despite being already asked to stay away). There was zero need to violate the clear requests to stay away to post a stronger warning. If you had to open a WP:ANEW case, you could easily point to your first warning combined with the requests to stay away to explain why there were no stronger warnings. I mean even your first warning was a already a edit warring warning of sorts as you acknowledged in the ANEW thread, so frankly even your posting your first clear edit warring warning in violation of the request to stay away was silly. So while Wes sideman needs to stop accusing you of sockpuppetry apparently without sufficient evidence (while Gabrielle103 was a sock, the a CU didn't see sufficient evidence to run a check on you) or they'll be blocked for WP:NPA; you need to lay off Wes sideman's talk page or you'll be blocked for WP:harassment. Nil Einne (talk) 03:32, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Fair enough, my bad, and I apologise for that. But they were Red Warn warnings through the program. It's not like I deliberately went to his page and kept posting talk comments. Sometimes I may accidentally send messages from Red Warn by mistake as it is easy to do. I have also seen examples of other users telling others off for deleting Red Warn warnings on their own talk pages as a way of covering up prior warnings. But I will learn from this and not do it again if that's not the right thing to do. Inexpiable (talk) 07:21, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

So DrAcHeNWiNgZz and Inexpiable are not the same person? Then how does one explain this? 86.167.69.238 (talk) 17:10, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

IP, that's pretty obvious and the answer to your question. They were renamed. PRAXIDICAE💕 17:18, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. I didn't know you could do that. Apologies for the misdirection. 86.167.69.238 (talk) 16:33, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Disruptive template edits by Dawn PScLim

Issue: Dawn PScLim (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), a fairly new editor, has made >90 edits to templates. Most of those edits have been unnecessary or unhelpful, and some have introduced grammatical errors (a few examples cited here). Dawn's edits to templates have been reverted by Andrybak, The Grid, Primefac, Sdkb and me.

Attempts to resolve: Dawn received personal messages about changing templates from Jmcgnh and me. Dawn continued to edit templates, and I gave them a templated warning with an added message about discussing template changes on the talk page first, which they removed with the edit summary I'll stop. They then immediately edited another template, and then again today.

Suggested action: Dawn appears to have good intentions but lacks the Misplaced Pages experience to be making bold edits to templates. I propose a pblock from template space; some time of suggesting changes on talk:template pages that are approved and made by other editors can help them learn and establish that they are ready to edit templates directly. Schazjmd (talk) 23:18, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support – Yes, I'm in general agreement with the assessment of the value of these past edits - mostly non-improvements, some actually disruptive - and agree that a partial block would likely be sufficient remedy. — jmcgnh 00:00, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
• I would support these actions. I admit my lack of proper attention to followup, as I never contacted them about the reverts I made and that I had seen them making them often and should probably stop. Since there have been notices left, seemingly to no effect, a tban may be the only recourse here. Primefac (talk) 05:46, 19 May 2022 (UTC) (please ping on reply)

I saw this and i want to explain some things. I wanted to change and tried to make better edits and they still were reverted. Some still were reverted when i fixed the problems mentioned (like (indirect)). As i continued, the summaries get unclearer (especially and ). Eventually even when I tried minor trivial edits, partly by desperation, it still was reverted (here , i think discussion isn't warranted here). Everybody else who reverted, i do find a reason clearly, and so do some edits in the early stages of this. I don't want a pblock, just a detailed explanation exactly on what i did wrong on the edits and work from there, other than grammatical errors, because right now I'm just confused on the exact reason. Thank you. Dawn Lim (talk) 10:01, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

@Dawn PScLim The edits you are making are adding redundant and useless text, converting sentences into nonsense and inappropriately changing the meaning of the templates you are editing. Looking at three of the diffs from your comment

1. In this edit here the first bit of text is unnecessary repetition. The first sentence already says This article appears to have insufficient references, adding and requires more citations is just repeating the same point. The second addition completely changes the meaning of the template - this is a template used to tag potential notability issues, not verifiability problems.
2. This edit converts some of the text of the message into nonsense. and add reliable sources if any for uncited claims. does not make sense.
3. In this edit you completely change the definition of a guideline - practices that editors should follow and practices that editors should usually follow have completely different implications. The second sentence fragment you add, before making changes, is again redundant to the first part of the section you added it to, which states Any substantive edit to this page ...

You should not be editing major clean-up and policy templates with your current level of experience. The wording of these templates is very carefully chosen and individual words may have specific meanings on Misplaced Pages. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 11:58, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Dawn PScLim, I explained the problems on your talk page. Jmcgnh told you The wording on many templates has been carefully hashed out through a consensus process and should not be changed without understanding that background. I cautioned you to discuss on the talk page before changing templates, and you replied (in your edit summary) I'll stop but you didn't stop making changes and you didn't use any of the talk:template pages to discuss making changes.What you need to do is to use the talk:template pages to suggest changes that you think will improve a template, and get consensus with other editors that those changes should be made before editing templates. It might also help you learn if you could team up with an experienced template editor for mentoring. But you really need to stop adding unnecessary words and changing existing words in these widely-used templates without discussing these changes first. Schazjmd (talk) 13:57, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Alright, i'll try to do edits on smaller templates in the meanwhile. However the first one you mentioned is a sandbox, and i don't pay as much care with sandboxes, as they don't affect other pages. Dawn Lim (talk) 10:54, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

@Dawn PScLim I'm not sure what you mean by "the first one you mentioned is a sandbox", all three of the edits I gave feedback on were made to the actual live template pages. I would strongly suggest that you do not edit any templates directly for the foreseeable future - you have been extremely disruptive in that namespace and have annoyed a lot of people; if you just start making the same type of edits to other templates you are going to end up blocked. If you want to suggest a change to a template go to its talk page and start a discussion - if other editors agree they will make the edit for you. As a newbie you should be focusing on learning policy and writing articles, not mucking about with the wording of templates. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 11:36, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

sorry I mistaken that edit as a sandbox edit similar to it. And of course I will try to change the type of edits. Dawn Lim (talk) 13:53, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Also take more care with your other (non-template) edits. I looked at one Special:Diff/1088577750 and there were lots of errors. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 14:14, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

After reviewing a sampling of his non-template edits, I believe one of the issues is lack of English language proficiency. I suggest that Dawn PScLim slow down and take more care with his edits: perhaps having an English native-speaker assist. There's already lots of cleanup needed with prior edits, though he does make some good content additions. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 18:06, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

I'd appreciate it if an admin would deal with this issue. Dawn has now edited another template. The "fix" they added shows that Dawn does not understand the purpose of Template:Partisan sources. It also shows that Dawn does not intend to take the advice given in this thread. I'm afraid that the only way to get Dawn to edit collaboratively with other editors on templates is to restrict them to the template talk pages. Schazjmd (talk) 13:44, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

I've just reverted this extremely poorly written and ungrammatical addition to some template documentation, which appears to try to say the same thing in 5 different ways. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 14:22, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Unexplained reverting edits by BrickMaster02

A few unexplained reverts by BrickMaster02 have been made on The 1% Club, Blockbusters (British game show), Bullseye (British game show) and Moneybags (game show) and they have been classified as VANDALISM by removing sources!!! Please ask them to stop this or they will be BLOCKED from editing on Misplaced Pages. Neverrainy (talk) 00:26, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

They were disruptive. You add the total number of episodes for a show even though that season hasn't even aired yet, credited a place where a show taped, even though the recent version's location was renamed, and also threatened me to respond and forcing administrators to block me. BrickMaster02 (talk) 00:28, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Please do NOT remove sources from the articles to pages per se The 1% Club and Moneybags (game show) as they are from official sites from the location that those shows are filmed. That includes unnecessary additions that don't contribute anything to the articles such as Blockbusters (British game show) and Bullseye (British game show) Neverrainy (talk) 00:31, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Alright, but why would you add the total number of series and episodes, when the first series hasn't even finished airing yet? That is not how television articles work, because the episode count is increased right when a new episode airs. Plus, it doesn't matter whether the location was the same. If there was a name change, then it's updated to reflect that. BrickMaster02 (talk) 00:33, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Please do NOT remove sources from the articles to pages per se The 1% Club and Moneybags (game show) as they are from official sites from the location that those shows are filmed. That includes unnecessary additions that don't contribute anything to the articles such as Blockbusters (British game show) and Bullseye (British game show). Ignore this and you will be reported for WP:VANDAL. Neverrainy (talk) 00:35, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Do you have to say the same exact thing? I'm not dumb. This whole thing was just blown out of proportion. Yes, I now admit what I did was stupid, but having this be a serious issue is going overboard. BrickMaster02 (talk) 00:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Please do NOT use ableist language as it WILL offend people on the autism spectrum. Please do NOT revert edits without a reasonable explanation in edit summary. Neverrainy (talk) 00:40, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

How was any of that ableist? You know what? I'm done with this. This whole thing is absurd, and it's all because of my minuscule mistakes. BrickMaster02 (talk) 00:41, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Both of you stop, please. You have both responded here. Stop trying to get the last word in or having an endless argument here. Let the admins review. Singularity42 (talk) 00:43, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

• I'm an admin, and I cannot parse what the issue is here. Would one or the other of you provide some diffs here so I don't have to go digging around page histories to try to figure out what your problem with each other is? Also going to put it out there that I'm one of those people with The Big A, and I have absolutely no idea what part of BrickMaster02's comment I'm supposed to be offended by. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:16, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
• (ec)Both editors need a timeout from editing articles as they have engaged in quite the useless edit war across several articles. While taking that timeout, they can try and find the talk page of the articles to discuss the issue. Additionally, Neverrainy should read up on what is WP:Vandalism (Hint:Vandalism isn't edit you don't like) and not use edit summaries only for threatening administrative action. Seriously, BrickMaster02 isn't innocent here, but I am more concerned with Neverrainy's actions including their comments in this report.Slywriter (talk) 02:19, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
• Both editors need to read WP:EW and also pay attention to the WP:3RR subsection right now. Canterbury Tail talk 12:17, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
  • I'm also very concerned with Neverrainy's edits in general, even just looking at the edit logs. They're full of edit summaries stating "DO NOT REVERT WITHOUT EXPLAINING" and "unexplained removal", but that's pretty much the only edit summaries. They never explain their own edits, their own removals of content etc. Quick to accuse others of not following the rules, but don't ever follow the same rules themselves. They have been blocked twice before for unsourced additions, and have a massive string of warnings over this but don't pay any attention to it. As a result I think it's time for a WP:CIR or WP:NOTHERE block. An indefinite one as they are quite clearly not able to get along with other users, are ignoring everything everyone is saying to them, and have shown zero interest or desire to abide by Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Now they have gotten a little better with sources, sometimes, but not always. Canterbury Tail talk 12:20, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

    I would also suspect that demands not to revert fall afoul of WP:OWN as well, as no editor has the right to demand that their edits are the one that must remain up. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). 22:56, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

I have had run-ins with Neverrainy before about unexplained blanking and removal of references, and I would like to bring to attention of admins this IP which is doing the same on The 1% Club and Moneybags (game show). Consider this edit here which shares Neverrainy's concern of episode numbers, as well as blanking the section on the origin of the show (another thing that Neverrainy removes without explanation ). I am not sure if this is just editing logged out for ease or comfort, but it's not a good sign when it's on pages where the user is involved in edit warring. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:59, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Persisting Vandalism article Mokshas bot needed

Unregisterd User:Vaultralph systematically deletes passages/sections in Mokshas rolling back to obsolete info----Numulunj pilgae (talk) 07:43, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Can you explain what you're referring to when you say "unregisterd (sic)"? Because this user is pretty clearly registered. Padgriffin 11:38, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Maybe they mean "unconfirmed?" Minkai (boop that talk button!-contribs-ANI Hall of Fame) 15:18, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

The version with "obsolete info" sure looks like a better article and is mostly sourced. The current version at Mokshas is filled with original research and broken source links, plus random head-scratchers like red links and policy links in "Main article" tags. And then there's Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Mokshas, which appears to be a duplicate article that Numulunj pilgae is updating at the same time. I'm also seeing original research and other low-quality edits to Mordvins (before and current) and unclear or missing citations at the new article Moksha name. It looks like Numulunj pilgae may lack the proficiency in English to edit here. Woodroar (talk) 15:41, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Comment Was blanked again by user Rsjaffe (talk · contribs), who asserted that the content added by Numulunj pilgae (talk · contribs) is inaccurate and poorly written. Also see Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Mokshas, concerning a content fork created by Numulunj pilgae. I'd also like your opinion on how to clean up existing content in the status quo revision, particularly the History section which hasn't changed much since the {{expert needed}} tag was added in June 2012. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:18, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

I reverted it to the last edit prior, not blanked it. I sampled some of the assertions (population numbers) in Numulunj pilgae's edits to see if they matched the sources, and they did not. See for a discussion of the concern that Numulunj pilgae is using WP:OR or perhaps inventing things. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 20:51, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Vaultralph (talk · contribs): Vaultralph should be blocked because they have continued to do what they were warned to stop doing the last time they were blocked, namely edit warring over ethnicity. See their talk page for that info. --TylerBurden (talk) 23:57, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

@TylerBurden: I don't see any instances of edit warring since the last block, except for this incident at Sámi. I'm not convinced that their conduct at Mokshas constitutes edit warring, although they should have given an edit summary the first time they restored the status quo, like they did the second time. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:48, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

The Sámi incident is what I am referring to, they edit warred to keep a man listed as being of that ethnicity, citing their own original research of looking at his facial features instead of using any reliable sources. It's in line with their previous behaviour, they were given a strong warning and a final chance by the blocking administrator and went against it not long after their block expired. If an administrator wants to close this, I would say indef since as said Vaultralph went against the conditions that were placed upon them. TylerBurden (talk) 09:18, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I continue to have concerns about the accuracy of the information Numulunj pilgae is adding to the article. In Special:Diff/1088732512 they acknowledge that the Russian Census 1926 when Mokshas number last time was calculated separately, so to give the correct number it needs time but the user is using later data that lumps Mokshas with other ethnic groups for population counts. Numulunj pilgae is also attacking users instead of addressing factual disputes: e.g., Special:Diff/1088806640 when he states that I seem to be ethnically biased removing info on Moksha Jewish heritage. It's a rather mild attack as attacks go, but I'd rather that those attacks stop.

It'd be better for all concerned if Numulunj pilgae were to, instead of wholesale changes to the article, introduce information one item at a time, so that others could review the accuracy of each assertion. I suspect the user does have some useful information to add, but it is submerged in a lot of WP:OR and inaccurate information. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 16:40, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Can you make any comments about Numulunj pilgae's and Vaultralph's recent edits at Mordvins ? I noticed that both users, at this point, are accusing each other of vandalism.

At Talk:Mordvins#Ethnicity_with_no_Common_language_and_no_common_ancestry and the newly created article Erzya-Moksha Autonomy, Numulunj pilgae is also pushing the POV that the Mordvin ethnic group was created by the Soviet Union in 1928. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:12, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

EDIT: And also that they are Jewish rather than Eastern Orthodox, and Baltic Finns rather than Volga Finns. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I don't understand their purpose of posting in Talk:Mordvins. The Mordvins article states that the term is a Soviet invention. I don't see anything contradicting that. However, that doesn't mean that there aren't any relationships between the two ethnic groups. From my reading, the Moksha and Erzya languages are closely related (splitting from each other about 1000 CE) but mutually unintelligible. Their languages are in the Baltic Finnic group (see Finnic languages) but they live in the Volga region (see Volga Finns). Should they be called Baltic or Volga or just state the facts: a Baltic-Finnish speaking people in the Volga Finnic region. They are definitely two different ethnic groups, but have some common roots if you go back far enough. I'm having trouble finding reliable information showing that Mokshas have either what we'd consider traditional Jewish Ashkenazi ancestry or a Jewish religious history (e.g., via conversion rather than by Askenazic lineage). — rsjaffe 🗣️ 22:58, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Oops. Now I see that the content of the Mordvins article is flipping around, and I was responding to a prior version. This is a hot mess, and making wholesale changes, as both combatants are doing, prevents us from properly judging the sourcing and appropriateness of each assertion in the article. For example, I am becoming more and more skeptical of the Jewish heritage claim. It seems that claim is linked to the history with the Khazars, and the Khazars article has a carefully researched discussion of the Khazars-Judaism link (or lack thereof).

Getting back to the behavior, I think there needs to be a stop to this. Numulunj pilgae in particular is having a problem with original research and making assertions that are not well-founded. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 02:31, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

I need also to add that "Mordvin" referring to a resident of that area may be an older term, but "Mordvin" as an ethnic identifier is Soviet. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 02:37, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

References

1. https://www.su.se/polopoly_fs/1.356081.1510165947!/menu/standard/file/FUS2016-15_06a-PSP-Final.pdf

deletion request

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Probably not something to write here, but in this page has someone's phone number on it and I would like it dereated.--Freetrashbox (talk) 12:25, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

I've WP:REVDELed the offending edits. --Jayron32 12:27, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, but you need to delete the comments section as well.--Freetrashbox (talk) 12:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

@Jayron32: since this is already here not much point taking it private I guess. Freetrashbox is correct that the previous two edit summaries also need to be revdeleted. Nil Einne (talk) 12:55, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Done. Canterbury Tail talk 13:01, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Sorry I missed that. Thanks to CT for cleaning up my mess. --Jayron32 13:08, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

No worries, I was here and it only took a few seconds. Canterbury Tail talk 14:17, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

That IP editor has persisted. The last few revisions before mine on that same talk page are in need of revdelling for the same reasons as above. Hb1290 (talk) 06:04, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I have emailed Oversight as detailed at WP:RFO. This will re suppressed shortly and it is likely that the /26 range will be blocked. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:30, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Citobun's rapid mass reverts

All out of a sudden a user, Citobun, has mass reverted my recent edits, and charged me for "block evasion" and "HKGW". I would want to know what that means, what had happened, what the grounds were, and what mechanism that was. This editor doesn't seem to be an administrator. Thanks. 1.64.46.233 (talk) 16:04, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps you should wait more than 10 minutes from posting on their talk page to get a response. This certainly doesn't rise to the level of needing to be discussed here. PRAXIDICAE💕 16:03, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

1.64, when you bring up a user here at ANI, you are required to notify them. I have done so for you. --Jayron32 16:08, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. That was what I was just doing but obviously I was typing too slow. 1.64.46.233 (talk) 16:10, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

I actually did. And now another ten more minutes has passed. May I know what that was about? 1.64.46.233 (talk) 16:13, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Some people check in to Misplaced Pages infrequently; maybe only for a few hours per day. Many Misplaced Pages editors have jobs, friends, social lives, need to eat, sleep, go watch a movie, take a good long shit, etc. 20 minutes is certainly not enough time to fit all of that in. Give it a day or two. Citobun hasn't done anything at Misplaced Pages in over an hour. Perhaps something more important came up and they haven't seen the messages. --Jayron32 16:48, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

HKGW is the WP:LTA Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/Hong Kong geography warrior, and the IP has been blocked by as this LTA by User:Ad Orientem Meters (talk) 18:26, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

They were reported to AIV as such and seem to check most of the boxes. But if an admin or experienced editor familiar with this LTA thinks otherwise, I am always open to a second look. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:30, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

It appears to be the LTA WP:HKGW, which has been quite active recently. They have been editing the same articles (and types of articles) (e.g. Fat Kwong Street) and making the same types of characteristic edits (e.g. nationality/sovereignty of small political entities, geographic/infrastructure trivia, adding interlanguage links). After being blocked at 1.64.46.233 they seem to have moved on to 124.217.189.184. Citobun (talk) 20:39, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done Blocked the new IP as well. --Jayron32 11:30, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Legal threat by 2409:4050:2E3B:1AF4:71D4:C797:97E8:FAC9 (talk · contribs) on Talk:Yadav

Diff: MadGuy7023 (talk) 18:01, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

/64 blocked. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:28, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Non-communicative editor creating un-/poorly referenced articles

Nascarbball24 (talk · contribs) appears to have an allergy to the user_talk space on Misplaced Pages. They have been repeatedly told on their talk page to stop creating articles with no references/only database references. The articles, however, continue to be made (see the myriad of AfD notices) and the user has made a total of 0 edits to their own talk page or indeed, anyone else's. Since they have also ignored my attempt to inform them of WP:ENGAGE, I am therefore proposing a block from page creations until the issues on their talk page are addressed. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 05:21, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

• I don't think I can block someone from creating pages, so I have blocked the user from article space only for 3 days in order to prevent further mess and hopefully grab their attention. Stifle (talk) 09:55, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

GhostOfDanGurney, Now the question is, who is going to add results to other drivers' articles for this weekend's races? NASCARfan0548 (alt) ↗ 14:25, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

My hope is that they can address the issues at hand quickly and in that case, there's no need to worry. Besides, WP:WIP, etc. Regardless, it'll get done. I never considered such edits to be urgent, anyway. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 14:39, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I've asked beneath their appeal how exactly they edit; they say they had no idea until the block how to communicate, so it's possible they're using a phone or tablet to edit, and the m.en.wiki site is infamously lousy at alerting editors of UT warnings and issues. Nate • (chatter) 22:08, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Thankfully, the block has gotten his attention. GoodDay (talk) 22:20, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Editor is clearly not here for the encyclopedia

Editors involved

• Itssxmothing (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Discospinster (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• M.Bitton (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Issue

Itssxmothing is clearly clearly not here to build an encyclopedia. Their edits to Sweetener (album) clearly constitute vandalism. Diff 1 shows changing an the artist name for no apparent reason, Diff 2 shows all the chart positions being changed, Diff 3 shows the Argentine chart position change and Diff 4 shows a repeat of diff 3 after being reverted. Please note I was not involved in reverted, Discospinster and M.Bitton were but now Itssxmothing has broken 3RR and is clearly here to be annoying/vandalise.

Can I request a indef block for Itssxmothing?

≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 10:20, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

This looks like run of the mill disruption. Warn them, and if it continues, report them to WP:AIV. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:36, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Suspected case of blatant advertising

Misplaced Pages:Identifying blatant advertising

Please review the following Misplaced Pages entries for a suspected case of blatant advertising of an enterprise and product:

Nosh Technologies https://en.wikipedia.org/Nosh_Technologies

Nosh (app) https://en.wikipedia.org/Nosh_(app)

Nosh daily https://en.wikipedia.org/Nosh_daily

Nosh Shop https://en.wikipedia.org/Nosh_Shop

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobias2934 (talk • contribs) 10:19, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

@Tobias2934: (Non-administrator comment) Please explain exactly how the pages in question constitute blatant advertising including analysing quotes from the article to make that point clear. I assume you are talking about IMLone wolf (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log); you must notify them of this discussion if that is the case, as is required by the large red box at the top of this page. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). 11:08, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Do you mean conflict of interest? M.Bitton (talk) 11:29, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I don't see any advertising, I see a description of services and products, but descriptions are not the same thing as advertisements. --Jayron32 11:32, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Tobias2934 seems to be the one being disruptive here. The origin of this dispute seems to be Somdip Dey, which Tobias2934 has repeatedly tried to WP:TAGBOMB with irrelevant and unjustified cleanup tags . They were asked to justify their addition of tags on the talk page , where they provided no convincing rationale as to why they were applied. IMLone wolf removed the tags apparently asking other editors on the IRC chat, which Tobias2934 reverted then filed a bogus ANI report listing four of IMLone wolf's pages (including two redirects) as spam. 192.76.8.78 (talk) 13:36, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Agreed, they seem to have a thing against this person and company and as a result have taken to Misplaced Pages about it. I don't see any advertising, I see plenty of notability and at least half decent references. None of Tobias2934's edits appear to be justified. Canterbury Tail talk 14:30, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm not convinced Nosh Technologies is independently notable from Nosh (app), and as such it does feel like advertising. Most of the coverage is about the app. Tobias also tagged Somdip Dey with various problems, which were partially valid & resolved.

@Tobias2934: if you're worried about promotional editing, posting at WP:NPOVN may be better, as rewriting articles for neutrality does not require any administrative intervention. Femke (talk) 16:43, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing to the correct noticeboard. Tobias2934 (talk) 23:53, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello fellow editors, I am not an admin and I refrained myself from participating in this discussion as its part of ANI (admins mostly). Anyhow, I would like to point out few things as part of this discussion as follows(I might be wrong as I am a moderately new editor and can be wrong).

I created the Nosh (app) article and has been editing it as the news references became available online. Most news article (references) has mentioned nosh and I created a redirect article of Nosh Technologies to the Nosh (app) before creating the full article. But recent news articles on India Currents, EU Startups & Outlook India magazine show that the company, though commonly known name might be Nosh Technologies, is actually known by Nosh or Nosh Tech (Nosh app is the same name as the company as well). This made me believe that the company Nosh Technologies are know publicly by Nosh or Nosh Tech on its own (based on the news references).

This was also evident from the news articles as provided in TechCrunch, TechCrunch Japan & South China Morning Post as well (just to name the few among several news references).

There are numerous articles which talks about Nosh as a company as follows (instead of Nosh Technologies) as mentioned in the article about Nosh Technologies and I thought that given the breadth and depth of the coverage by media it might be better to create a separate page with the company's name.

Once again, I am still learning, but I would still stand on the footing that Nosh Technologies (which is also known as Nosh) should be better to have an article based on the news references. I might stand corrected but I will leave that to more experience editors like you here. IMLone wolf (talk) 03:04, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

I completely disagree. I casually came to found these pages based on another article that I had a dispute about, it just seems that all of these pages are mostly edited by the same user. Tobias2934 (talk) 23:40, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

• User:IMLone wolf has been blocked: see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/MeLucifer. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 15:04, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Hawkeye7 and Ottobock

On 9 May 2022, an IP posted their version to Ottobock page (diff: ). The version was edited on behalf of Ottobock as they hired a firm called Finsbury Glover Hering Europe (diff: ). As per WP:COI, paid editors can't edit the page directly and this was rightly reverted a day back. Now, User:Hawkeye7 think otherwise (it was a surprise that they are not aware of this guideline) or maybe they are part of this paid ring? Maybe, they have to clarify here.

The page has a history of paid/COI editing (see a corporate account User:Merle at Ottobock), so these edits weren't a surprise. Thanks. 2406:E003:C1B:E401:F920:C6B5:3570:5741 (talk) 11:47, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Hawkeye7's edits on that page are certainly disturbing. An IP literally says they've added something as a paid edit (albeit a translation from the Germany Misplaced Pages), another IP removes it as paid editing and Hawkeye7 reverts with the edit summary of "rv - IPs cannot make editorial decisions - take it to the talk page". When reverted they revert again saying take it to the talk page. As we know the onus is on the editor inserting the information to get consensus, but Hawkeye7's edits there are not right. Not sure it needs more than a trouting and pointing to of some rules, but the claim that IPs cannot make editorial decisions and edit warring to reinsert content literally stating it's paid work is worrying. Canterbury Tail talk 11:52, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Paid work added by an IP, who at the same time can't make editorial decisions? Although WP:COI doesn't say that paid editors cannot edit directly, and it looks like the IP made the necessary disclosure, so everybody is wrong. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:54, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I'd also like to know where in Misplaced Pages policy it states that IPs cannot make editorial decisions. Why even allow them to edit Misplaced Pages then? WaltCip-(talk) 12:01, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Especially with the hypocrisy that ScottishFinnishRadish points out of it's content an IP inserted in the first place. It's really disturbing edits from such a long time editor, and I'd really like a good explanation. Canterbury Tail talk 12:18, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

They also don't understand WP:BRD apparently. An IP adds info, another IP removes it, Hawkeye readds it, a third IP removes it again, and Hawkeye reverts this as well with the edit summary " WP:BRD: Take it to the talk page", even though the IP is restoring the status quo (the R part) and Hawkeye has now twice undone this without starting a talk page discussion themselves. Disregard for IP editors, reinstating paid edits, edit warring, and displaying a severe misunderstanding of what WP:BRD is... Fram (talk) 12:33, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Even if we were to omit the weird WP:BRD / WP:ONUS switcheroo, and even if we were also to omit the WP:PAID / WP:COI components, I am puzzled by this mindset. An IP is allowed to edit (i.e. make editorial decisions), but Hawkeye7's editorial decisions take precedent due to... reasons? It's nonsensical. El_C 13:38, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Hopefully this can be worked out as, paid edit or no, that version of the article is vastly superior to what is there at present. "As political situation in post-war Berlin was unstable, and soon after the company was founded, it moved to Königsee in Thuringia" ? Ugh. ValarianB (talk) 14:04, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I agree the actual edit seems to be mostly good and an improvement. Anyway lets give Hawkeye7 some time, they're in Australia and given their edit history this is now outside their normal online and editing hours. Canterbury Tail talk 14:10, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm not seeing any actual evidence here that Hawkeye7 was being paid. Hawkeye7 is the main editor of the article going back six years, so it was very likely to be on their watchlist. I see no reason to assume that this was anything other than Hawkeye7 believing that the edits improved the article (and others here seem to be in agreement with that), and if I saw a reversion of a third of the article on my watchlist I'd certainly have checked it out - making it unsurprising that Hawkeye7 noticed the reversion. Before accusing an editor of being paid there needs to be something to back it up. - Bilby (talk) 14:43, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I don't think anyone here really believes they are outside the OP, just that their behaviour and comments are odd as is their understanding of who can edit and BRD etc. And there could be some WP:OWN issues. As I mentioned above, I don't this is a super serious matter, but there's some understanding issues that need to be addressed and a possible trouting. Canterbury Tail talk 14:53, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I guess my hassle is that I'm not seeing anything particularly odd, but maybe I've been editing too long. The edit summary was of course clearly wrong, but I've run into plenty of editors willing to accept paid edits if they improve the article, just as I encounter plenty who will remove on sight just because it was paid. The whole paid editing thing is a mess, so I tend not to jump up and down at people on either side of the accept/revert debate. Without any reason to think that Hawkeye7 was paid, all I'm seeing is someone who wrote a dumb edit summary and who felt that the article was better with the content - and was willing to revert to keep it, albeit without hitting 3RR. If the content was promotional I'd have an issue, but as everyone seems to think that it made the article better, I just see it as the usual butting of heads over paid editing.

On the edit summary side, Hawkeye was wrong with the summary used to revert the IP. But the IP was wrong with the interpretation of WP:COI that they used to revert the edits.

Honestly, I wish we could go back to the days before paid editing was a thing, but I fear that was a time that never really existed. :( - Bilby (talk) 15:32, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Pretty much never did. MyWikiBiz was running less than 5 years after Misplaced Pages was started; that was 17 years ago. That cat's been out of the bag for a LONG time. --Jayron32 18:37, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

• I have no financial stake in the topic company and am not now nor have I even been paid for any editing. This is a smear, and is totally unjustified and without substance. I considered the edits in question as improvements to the article, and my understanding of WP:COI is that it does not require the automatic removal of such edits. I was not edit warring, I was simply going through the usual WP:BRD cycle. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:14, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

  I think the accusations that you are a shill are clearly without merit. There are still two issues that have come up that need addressing. 1) In an edit summary, you stated "IPs cannot make editorial decisions", if I may be so blunt, WTAF did you mean by that? That's a fairly problematic thing to say in the middle of a dispute. 2) Best practices around BRD involve not reverting other than the first revert, and this is true even if the other person reverts you back. The idea is to stop reverting and discuss. If the other person reverts your revert, you still shouldn't revert again. The spirit of BRD is the willingness to discuss an article while knowing that the version you don't like is currently the one everyone gets to see. If other people aren't doing that, let them. You can't get in trouble for letting other people be the worst behaved in an edit war. Reverting multiple times only places your name at the top of that list. --Jayron32 18:23, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

  (after edit conflict) User:Hawkeye7, I'm sure the title of this section is wrong, and I'm quite prepared to believe, along with others above, that this was an improvement to the article, but you were very obviously not going through the WP:BRD cycle. A bold edit was made. It was reverted. The next step in that process is to start a talk page discussion, which you should have done rather than re-revert. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:28, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

  You're quite right, I shouldn't have done that. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:03, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

  Can you comment on your edit summary of "rv - IPs cannot make editorial decisions - take it to the talk page"? Canterbury Tail talk 19:53, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

  COI does not require reversion of all content created. That kind of change in policy requires an RfC. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:32, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

  Purely as a FYI: At least one of the tools (I can't recall which) won't let you do a "revert" if there have been intermediate edits and it forces you to revert everything newer first. If you want to do an actual revert rather than remove the content via an edit then you aren't given much choice and have to revert everything until you get to the edit you disagree with. Best practice in that situation would be to re-add any unrelated edits you reverted in the interim but I have some sympathy for those leaving that bit out.

  As to why you would want to revert rather than just edit out the content, it makes it clear that you are the one doing the reverting and (hopefully) starting a BRD cycle rather than being on the back foot with the originator reverting you and saying that the onus is on you to to get consensus for your change rather than accepting that it was their edit that was reverted. This has happened to me more than once and it is rather frustrating.

  I hope that helps with context. Gusfriend (talk) 10:01, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

  Sorry, it doesn't really. It's challenging to follow at parts. Hawkeye7's reply, as well, is confusing, and also unresponsive. They are either confused themselves, or they are being evasive. Happy to assume the former, but lessons ought to be learned from this, which I'm not sure has happened based on their responses here thus far. El_C 13:31, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

  Apologies, I should have made it clear that I was trying to give Hawkeye7 an explanation of why the IP user might have reverted the extra versions rather than trying to explain Hawkeye7's response which I admit to being confused by as well. Gusfriend (talk) 08:06, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Mass attack at 2021 Southeast Asian Games

This is so dynamic that mere page protection seems insufficient. There may be some legitimate edits tucked in here, but it also looks like there are hundreds of unsourced and possibly disruptive contributions. May need deep reverting to return to a stable version. 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:4FAD (talk) 13:15, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

It looks like someone has already requested a page protection. M.Bitton (talk) 13:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I've already protected it, based on the request at RFPP. --Jayron32 14:34, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

IP vandal needs block

2601:601:400:9840:0:0:0:E1F8 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)

Has been reported at WP:AIV but is on a rampage, vandalizing several pages per minute. Please block them. Thanks, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 14:47, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done. --Jayron32 14:55, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Sirio, incivility, legal threats and possibly CIR.

I came across user:Sirio today while patrolling newpages, specifically after coming across Dewesoft which is nothing more than a raging advertisement that they've recreated twice today. This lead me to their talk page that had a completely unreasonable outburst and multiple personal attacks:

FUCK YOU, I DIDN'T FINISH EDITING THE PAGE, ADDING REFERENCES AND MORE DATA, AND YOU TELL ME I'M DOING A PROMOTION? SO ALL WIKIPEDIA IS PROMOTION, ADVERTISING AND FAKE NEWS. DON'T BOTHER ME AND LET ME DO MY JOB. Sirio (talk) 3:17 pm, Today (UTC−4)diff

You get paid by wikipedia to fuck around and censor articles written by volunteers who waste time like me. No one pays me to waste time with your stupidities, your censorship will not change this. Sirio (talk) 4:19 pm, Today (UTC−4) diff

and now a legal threat and personal attack: If you have mental problems, you must attach verified evidence, to verify and corroborate before a prosecutor, that the Dewesoft Misplaced Pages article can be taken as financed advertising, and my link as a user in this regard. One Fact: My IP address is from Argentina, so you will have to prove in your complaint to the court, the way in which the Dewesoft company, from Slovenia, has contacted me, to "promote their page". Sirio (talk) 6:41 pm, Today (UTC−4) diff

I don't know whether they're actually here to contribute or not but it's clear their behavior is unacceptable and not conducive to a collaborative environment and it doesn't appear that a discussion is even possible given their over reaction and insults. PRAXIDICAE💕 22:46, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

• They have been indef blocked by Blablubbs. M.Bitton (talk) 22:53, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

  And now they have posted a very WP:NOTTHEM unblock request. Perhaps it should be declined ASAP. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). 01:29, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

  LET ME DO MY JOB'? What does that mean? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:32, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

  Crikey! I need a raise! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:33, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

  If you found that funny, you should see what Sirio's second unblock request is. Very textbook WP:EBUR. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). 02:39, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

The Wiggles topic suffering Canada IP disruption

• 2607:FEA8:935F:8900:0:0:0:0/64 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial))
• 67.70.154.0/24 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial))
• 2605:B100:13D:BA34:0:0:0:0/64 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial))
• 2607:FEA8:935B:C500:0:0:0:0/64 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial))
• 74.15.92.156 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
• 184.151.190.98 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
• 184.145.26.122 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
• 72.138.63.194 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
• 70.50.135.236 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))

Today, more Canada IPs jumped into the long-term disruption at music and TV articles, especially ones about the Wiggles. Can we block the range Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:935F:8900:0:0:0:0/64 and the IP Special:Contributions/184.151.190.98? They have been removing valid text and references, for instance at Diamantina Cocktail where they also asserted that an Australian band changed to American.

Yesterday, the IP Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:935F:8900:CCB3:11FC:96F8:3CCF was blocked but the whole /64 should get a lengthy block, or even a larger range to prevent future disruption. Ten days ago the similar range Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:935B:C500:0:0:0:0/64 was blocked for three months. Ohnoitsjamie set a year-long rangeblock on Special:Contributions/67.70.154.0/24 last September. This person has been at it for a long time, using IPs from Canada, mostly from the province of Ontario. Binksternet (talk) 02:10, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Update: Ohnoitsjamie set a two-week rangeblock on Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:935F:8900:0:0:0:0/64. Ad Orientum put a 31-hour block on Special:Contributions/184.151.190.98. Lengthier blocks are needed. Binksternet (talk) 15:10, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Fake FA

Today, Nathaniel Bapelaa II (talk · contribs) created Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/DJ Arch Jnr/archive1 by copy/pasting Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Aaliyah/archive1. I then marked the page with {{Db-g2}} and placed a comment about the copy/paste at the top of the page. That user then reverted my edit, and further tried to hide the copy/paste by some random changes to the text and removed my notice on their talk page. What's to be done? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:04, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

I reverted the removal of speedy deletion template and it is already deleted now. 0xDeadbeef (T C) 06:34, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

For the record, Nathaniel Bapelaa II has now been blocked for some fairly obvious abuse of multiple accounts. --Kinu /_c 09:02, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

TPA removal

2600:1700:64C:1000:2832:264C:FD8C:7649 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) Needs thier TPA removed diff (and probbably also revision deleted) Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:57, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• Sorted by El C. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 11:00, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

2603:8080:4700:C964:F518:8DB:DB47:BEDF disrupting sandbox

The IP editor 2603:8080:4700:C964:F518:8DB:DB47:BEDF is constantly removing the header from the sandbox, which I believe is against the rules. See these diffs: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Sandbox&diff=1089026964&oldid=1089026730 https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Sandbox&diff=1089026357&oldid=1089026319 https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1088951878 67.173.50.123 (talk) 14:01, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

In addition, it looks like they added the nobots template which prevents the bot that reinserts the sandbox header from editing the sandbox. 67.173.50.123 (talk) 14:05, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

There they go again:

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Sandbox&diff=1089032226&oldid=1089031657

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Sandbox&diff=1089032226&oldid=1089031657

Notice how they keep adding the nobot tag. 67.173.50.123 (talk) 14:37, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Joel binu

Can someone please stop Joel binu from repeatedly asking the same question on my talk page again and again, after having been reverted and asked not to do so further? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:17, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Blocked indefinitely: User_talk:Joel_binu#Indefinite_block. El_C 14:53, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

User:RandomCanadian canvassing at AfD

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RandomCanadian (talk · contribs) has engaged in canvassing at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of Russian Nobel laureates (2nd nomination).

• At the discussion, the user only pinged one user from the last AfD discussion, rather than all users of the past discussion. The user receiving the ping held a view for redirection at the previous discussion, a similar view to RandomCanadian's for deletion at the present discussion.
• RandomCanadian stated at the present AfD discussion that they were merely adhering to Misplaced Pages:Copying within Misplaced Pages.
• I asked the user to please now ping all users from the past discussion, both at the AfD page (diff) and on their user talk page (diff), because unintentional or not, the net result is inappropriate canvassing at this time.
• Rather than discussing matters at their talk page, the user blanked my message two minutes after it was sent and left an edit summary stating, "if you want to go to the WP:Cesspit over this, that reflects more on you than on me. If you want to ping the other editors, that also reflects more on you than on me." (diff).

It appears at this time that the user would much prefer to have the discussion skewed in their favor, rather than adhering to Misplaced Pages:Canvassing. At the present AfD discussion:

• The user stated that it was not their intention to canvass. However, in my view that remains the net result at this time.
• The user stated that they will not ping others to the discussion based upon their own personal opinion regarding user !votes in the past discussion, stating "I'm not going to ping people whose comments are obviously personal opinion (" I feel this is a valid navigational approach." is WP:ILIKEIT) or provided no valid reasons at all ("for now. We can hash otu minimums at a VPP or a RFC")." (diff)
• In selectively pinging in this manner, based upon their personal opinions about past !votes, RandomCanadian is now directly engaged in inappropriate canvassing. North America 14:22, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Utter nonsense, as already explained. WP:COPYWITHIN is a legal requirement. Even if one were to go for a strict reading of WP:Canvass as they seem to be doing here, there clearly was no intent to alter the outcome of the discussion here (Canvassing is notification done with the intention of influencing the outcome of a discussion in a particular way). If 1000 wants to ping other editors (despite the act of pinging previous participants to an AfD probably being even more dubious canvassing than what I have done), that is their problem and one which I have no need to address on my own (though if they do decide to go that way, then this thread might warrant re-opening). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:24, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• I agree with RC: this episode reflects very poorly on NA1000. Their comments at AFD, the user talk page message, and this ANI, are ridiculously over-the-top, hyper-aggressive responses to one user quoting another. Pinging someone while quoting them isn't canvassing, and this canvassing accusation and ANI report seems to me like someone trying to win an AFD via PvP. One of the ways we know this is definitely not canvassing is that nobody canvasses just one user. The idea that one editor would quote another editor just so that they could ping them, just so that other editor would join the AFD and !vote, presumably the same way, and that this one !vote would somehow gain an advantage in the AFD... it's utter nonsense on its face, as RC says. Canvassing, to be an attempt at influencing a discussion, pretty much has to involve notifying multiple people, otherwise it would be utterly ineffective, because one !vote won't make a difference. The idea that pinging someone while quoting them constitutes canvassing is just so ridiculous I really can't believe an admin is taking this to ANI. Levivich 14:58, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• NA1000, in the discussion you said I strongly recommend that you now ping all users from the last AfD discussion. I cannot see why pinging the editors yourself would not have better addressed your concerns without the drama, given that RandomCanadian is clearly acting in good faith and there is no pattern of behaviour. Is there a reason why you didn't do this? BilledMammal (talk) 15:02, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
• Comment The AfD posting by User:RandomCanadian followed a posting made at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Lists of Nobel laureates by religion. It concerned List of Jewish Nobel laureates where I wrote that I was neutral, writing "I don't know what fate would befall List of Israeli Nobel laureates, List of Russian Nobel laureates or List of Hungarian Nobel laureates. After that RandomCanadian duly listed those three articles for deletion, which seems WP:POINTY. In addition the wp:featured article, List of female Nobel laureates was listed for AfD. At the moment the featured article List of Indian Nobel laureates, mentioned in my diff, has been spared. Mathsci (talk) 15:17, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

  Further WP:STALKING by Mathsci, which is probably worthy of it's own thread (but I don't have the patience for that right now). As for the bad-faith claim this is POINTY, no, this is just what you ought to expect from an "other shit exists" argument, as you might have guessed: For this very reason, WAX arguments in AFD discussions sometimes backfire, by directly causing the other article to be immediately nominated for deletion.... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:19, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

  This is a common misunderstanding about WP:POINT, which makes me think it isn't a bad faith claim, though it is evidence that POINT needs to be clarified. As a rule, editors engaging in "POINTy" behavior are making edits with which they do not actually agree. Editors proposing changes that they agree with, even if the perceived issue was brought to their attention in an WP:OTHERTHINGSEXIST argument, are not violating WP:POINT. BilledMammal (talk) 15:29, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

  I've opened a discussion on correcting this misunderstanding. BilledMammal (talk) 15:51, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Anybody can participate in an AfD: I did so in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Double group. That later involved multiple edits to Talk:Double group and Double group, gradually improving the content. The material turned out to involve several Nobel laureates, some of whom fall in the category above: Eugene Wigner, Harry Kroto, Dan Shechtman, Hans Bethe and Roger Penrose. It was interesting learning about quasicrystals. Other Nobel laureates were also involved, e.g. C. N. Yang, Robert Curl and Richard Smalley.

Having an AfD for the wp:featured article List of female Nobel laureates is surprising. I checked to see if any administrators were involved – Ealdgyth was one of the checkers. Mathsci (talk) 16:00, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Ugh... that long-term problem is for another thread (and how you almost immediately got to AfDs I created and proceeded to vote "keep", about list articles which you never edited, , ) is well, of course, no mystery at all - but again, that is for another thread). The FA list probably needs to be delisted, but that's also for another venue. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 16:28, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• Mathsci, RE: El C, sorry for the spelling error (diff) — what? El_C 16:32, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• I didn't spell Dan Shechtman correctly ... my bad. Mathsci (talk) 17:00, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• Yeah, I got that, but what does it have to do with me? I haven't participated or even read this thread. El_C 17:06, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• Israeli Nobel Laureates came up ... sorry for the ping. Mathsci (talk) 17:20, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• If you quote someone at length, it's ok (probably even preferable) to ping that person. It's also ok to ping participants of past AfDs. You can do that if someone pings one person from a previous AfD (or pings them when quoting them), just like you can do that if nobody has been pinged yet. If it looks like they're trying to influence the discussion by canvassing, then we need a decent amount of evidence for that. Pinging one person when quoting isn't sufficient evidence. If someone went through and quoted/pinged all !voters on one side of a discussion, and did that in multiple AfDs, I'd probably get suspicious, but a one-off doesn't seem like a big concern. — Rhododendrites \\ 17:00, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
• Canvassing at Afd is a busted flush and has been for a long time, since about 2012. I've seen multiple occasions of it, with different groups and nothing changes. scope_creep 18:39, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

  The bigger issue here is that there wasn't any canvassing and NA1000's reaction was very much an overreaction. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 18:55, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• Withdrawn. Looks like I read into it too much. I understood from the start that the user was providing attribution, and felt that a slight form of inadvertent canvassing occurred as a by-product of that. When I attempted to discuss the matter at the user's talk page, they just erased everything, so I brought it to ANI, because of the principle of the matter: one user who !voted in the past in a similar manner was only notified, but nobody else was. North America 02:22, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Eyes needed

This WP:SPA's JaztoSM (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) only post is this. The WP:ASPERSION stuff has been ongoing for some time. I do not remember what the SOP is in dealing with them. At the very least they are a sock but I wouldn't know who to file the SPI against. If this report should have been filed somewhere else please feel free to move it. MarnetteD|Talk 16:12, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

This is an obvious LTA and should just be blocked. PRAXIDICAE💕 16:17, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

It's someone from Wikipediocracy (who is probably still an editor or two or three here; I have my suspicions but insufficient evidence for SPI) who is part of a conspiracy theory about Flyer22. Crap like this should just be nuked from orbit.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  22:15, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Squared.Circle.Boxing's conduct

User:Squared.Circle.Boxing continues to levy personal attacks in edit summaries, the latest being this one . This user has been blocked in the past (the latest being last month). Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:03, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

When you issue a petty warning template to a regular editor you're in a dispute with (after reverting good faith edits with no explanation, ironically disruptive), and said regular editor makes it clear that petty warning templates aren't appreciated, a second template for reverting back to a version that you yourself wanted it to be at (last stable version without reference removal), is nothing but an attempt to provoke a reaction. Telling you to grow the fuck up was unnecessary and I shouldn't have said it, but uncollaborative actions usually get uncollaborative reactions. – .O. 18:39, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

FaridK12 and copyright

FaridK12 is a new editor who's entire editing history revolves around massive copyright violations and they continue to create them. Literally every creation and major edit is a copyright violation, both here and on azwiki. I've asked them to stop editing directly in mainspace in an attempt to clean up some of the mess but they don't appear to be listening. See below:

• International Culinary Festival is a translated copyvio of the provided link (and from azwiki)
• Karabakh Foundation copyvio
• Cultural Heritage of Karabakh copyvio
• Draft:Historical and cultural monuments of Karabakh copyvio
• copyvio to an existing article second part of said copyvio
• adding more copyvio after I already warned them

It doesn't appear they are capable of listening, so I'm asking either for an outright indef or a full, indefinite block from mainspace (though I'm not sure how this will play out since they create copyvios in draft space too.) PRAXIDICAE💕 19:42, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• I've deleted all of their articles. My inclination is to simply indef, as they have posted that they have "paraphrased" the information on the articles when s simple translation will show that (certainly on the one I looked at) they're exactly the same. Thoughts? Black Kite (talk) 19:55, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Please do, their entire contribution history on all three projects they've edited (azwiki, commons and here) are all 100% copyright violations. I don't see any good in keeping them unblocked. PRAXIDICAE💕 19:58, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I just looked at Commons. I don't think there's any point leaving them unblocked. Indeffed. Black Kite (talk) 20:20, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

@Praxidicae: I have independently verified that there are major copyright concerns global lock request has been filed at m:Steward_requests/Global#Global_lock_for_FaridK12. Praxicidae has notified the azwiki admin White Demon (talk · contribs · global contribs · logs · block log) at azwiki, and 16 out of 27 articles at azwiki have already been deleted. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:44, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Duplicate article created to fufill POV

We have Persecution of Yazidis but Aronyu is keen on having Persecution of Yazidis by Muslim Kurds as well. There's just one problem, the second article mostly contains info that already exist in the first articel (sometimes rewritten but check the use of references and the historical dates) but also info that was removed years ago from different Misplaced Pages articles for being problematic or not NPOV. I have seen a couple of other Yazidi-related POVFORKS recently including Ezdiki language and Kurdification of Yazidis and Persecution of Yazidis by Muslim Kurds seems to be part of this group as well. Disruption on Yazidi topics has been going on since 2019 and it just keep continuing. Recent examples I believe Persecution of Yazidis by Muslim Kurds should be a redirect and protected from editing. If the editor is genuine about expanding information, they can do that at Persecution of Yazidis.

I want to note that this user has been calling me disruptive and a POV-pusher since 2019 and they also reported me for vandalism that same year It screams NOTHERE for me. --Semsûrî (talk) 07:43, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

JosephUSSRStalinCCCP is not here to build an encyclopedia

JosephUSSRStalinCCCP (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) appears to be a vandal who, aside from having a troublesome username, is inserting Kremlin propaganda into articles and making other disruptive edits. They only have four edits, but each one was vandalism. — Czello 11:21, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Blocked indef by 331dot (talk · contribs). — THIS IS TREY MATURIN 11:47, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Jstar Ahmed

Fresh out of their month-long block from WP:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1096#Jstar_Ahmed, User:Jstar Ahmed has immediately resumed adding unsourced and poorly sourced fan language to Uttam Kumar and two film articles.

• fan language sourced by blog post:
• same fan language, sourced by another blog post:
• unsourced fan language, pasted from a copyrighted blog post:
• unsourced claims of awards:
• claim of award sourced by bogus reference that makes no such claim:
• unsourced fan language:
• unsourced fan language for "Remake" section:
• unsourced film credits:

I've indeffed them for the repeated unsourced content. If this the someone on mobile, hopefully they will request an unblock on their talk page to understand what is going on. If not, then they are just ignoring repeated warnings, and the indef is needed. RickinBaltimore (talk) 22:09, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

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