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	Of the three sources cited for this alleged name, the ''Chosun Ilbo'' is (for once!) the most substantial, presenting an interview with a resident of the Russian city where KIS was stationed. There is no mention of "Soviet records" nor "Irsenovich," and even if the Soviets recorded his name that way for cultural reasons, it wouldn't prove that he was not originally named KJI. The ''Life'' source, retrieved from the Internet Archive, comments only in passing and also without mentioning records. The CNN citation is useless because it provides no date. ] (]) 03:00, 17 April 2022 (UTC)		Of the three sources cited for this alleged name, the ''Chosun Ilbo'' is (for once!) the most substantial, presenting an interview with a resident of the Russian city where KIS was stationed. There is no mention of "Soviet records" nor "Irsenovich," and even if the Soviets recorded his name that way for cultural reasons, it wouldn't prove that he was not originally named KJI. The ''Life'' source, retrieved from the Internet Archive, comments only in passing and also without mentioning records. The CNN citation is useless because it provides no date. ] (]) 03:00, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

	== A question about Kim Jong Il's birth year. ==

	I have a question. Is it probable that he was indeed born in 1942 and because of the east asian age reconing system, the soviet authorities mistakenly recorded his year of birth as 1941? ] (]) 13:37, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

	:ja of nee, ik weet het eigenlijk niet. Sorry voor je verspillen tijd... ] (]) 19:27, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

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Kim Jong Il died either late Dec. 2012 or early Jan 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:701:380:95C0:90A7:CC5:B450:5DE6 (talk) 13:48, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

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Of the three sources cited for this alleged name, the Chosun Ilbo is (for once!) the most substantial, presenting an interview with a resident of the Russian city where KIS was stationed. There is no mention of "Soviet records" nor "Irsenovich," and even if the Soviets recorded his name that way for cultural reasons, it wouldn't prove that he was not originally named KJI. The Life source, retrieved from the Internet Archive, comments only in passing and also without mentioning records. The CNN citation is useless because it provides no date. 67.180.143.89 (talk) 03:00, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

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