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I have seen your good comments ]. I have looked at some history and discovered that some editors persistently remove views they don't like, though there are many studies / secondary source from mainstream publications supporting them. These people seems to have unlimited time of editing here and Misplaced Pages has to be in their way. Does Misplaced Pages work like this? --] (]) 15:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC) I have seen your good comments ]. I have looked at some history and discovered that some editors persistently remove views they don't like, though there are many studies / secondary source from mainstream publications supporting them. These people seems to have unlimited time of editing here and Misplaced Pages has to be in their way. Does Misplaced Pages work like this? --] (]) 15:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
:I'm glad that the list of secondary sources I posted in the earlier discussion was useful to you, but I don't think making that article consistent with the majority of recent secondary sources will be an easy task in the current editing environment. Unfortunately, yeah--Misplaced Pages does seem to work like that. Good luck to you if you want to take a crack at improving the article. -] (]) 23:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)


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Glad you decided to return! FunkMonk (talk) 21:41, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 23:30, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for uploading the new version! I think as long as it doesn't contradict published info it should be fine. It could just be considered a different interpretation done for unspecified reasons. Artists update their stuff all the time so it should be ok. Dinoguy2 (talk) 16:35, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Makes sense, especially in order to be consistent with the size chart. ;) -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 23:31, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you for a beautiful picture

This is a very elegant picture; thank you for making the world a more beautiful place through it! — Sebastian 23:36, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

And thank you for the kind words, Sebastian! -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 14:05, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Microraptor

Perhaps my English is not that good, however direct questions in encyclopedias are rather goofy. I speak of your revert on my edit at Microraptor. Perhaps you could rewrite that sentence removing the interrogative tone. Thanks and good work. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 07:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your note--my reversion was based on the grammatical confusion of the edit (and terms like "birdsavian"), but I do agree that the sentence should be reworked to remove the rhetorical question. Take a look at it now and see if it's an improvement. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 16:50, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

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Ankylosaurus neck rings

Hi, you drew this cool restoration of Ankylosaurus a while back, which is now in a featured article. A paper just came out that criticised Carpenter's cervical hald-ring configuration, suggesting there would have been two half-rings, as in related genera. As your restoration shows a gap above the armour, it would appear you followed Carpenter's hypothesis, perhaps it could be modified to reflect Arbou'rs more well founded proposal? Also, the eyes seem a tad too big... FunkMonk (talk) 21:32, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I think standard practice with new research and reconstructions is to wait and see how the new paper is received before changing anything, but I don't pay attention to ankylosaur research so I don't really know whether this paper is changing consensus. That said, I probably won't have the time (or expertise; ankylosaurs are not my thing at all, and that illustration was originally made for a chart) to edit this recon, but you or anyone else is welcomed to have a go at it! -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 22:04, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Ok, I might have a go at it. As for new versus old hypotheses, Arbour's is based on phylogenetic bracketing, whereas Carpenter's was pretty much just made up... FunkMonk (talk) 22:13, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Yup, sounds like good occurrence to revise, then. I've just been burned by things like the venomous Sinornithosaurus hypothesis and other things people were very excited about when they first came out. ;) If you want, I can email you the PSD of the Ankylosaurus if that would make it any easier to edit. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 22:15, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Would be nice! I'll send a modified version back for your approval once I get to it... By the way, I thought the venom thing was discredited? Or well, no spoilers! FunkMonk (talk) 22:20, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Not sure I have your email (and can't send attachments via the Wiki email form), so how about shooting me an email and I'll reply with the attachment. And yeah, the Sinornithosaurus venom study has been discredited (despite subsequent attempts by the authors to justify it), and that's my point: editors often read an exciting new study in paleontology and want to make immediate article changes, without waiting for the new study to be critically analyzed by other researchers in the field. For that reason I'm always reluctant to make immediate changes when a new paper challenges a long-held paradigm. Paleontology articles are not subject to the same guidelines about primary vs. secondary sources as many other topic areas at Misplaced Pages, because the turnover rate is so slow (if we waited for every new taxon to show up in secondary lit before including them here, we'd have half as many dinosaur articles!). But it does mean we should be especially discerning about immediately making changes to include the conclusions of brand new papers. Like I said, ankylosaurs aren't my thing so I'm happy for others to make the call here, it's just a general principle to keep in mind. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 22:30, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Agree, though the authorship of the venom theory already rings alarm bells by itself... You mailed me some time ago about a silhouette, so I've just replied to that one... FunkMonk (talk) 22:33, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

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FYI, Emily Willoughby was just created. All the best, --Animalparty! (talk) 18:16, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I'm under the impression that it's bad form for the subject of an article to make any edits on it, is that generally accurate? -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 18:24, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
The main relevant guidelines are WP:BLP, WP:Conflict of interest, and WP:Autobiography. Editing articles about one's self is not forbidden, especially if there are obvious errors or privacy violations: see WP:BLPKIND and WP:BIOSELF. You should generally avoid writing about yourself, per WP:COISELF, but it is considered acceptable to pose edit requests (or perhaps additional sources) on talk pages, per WP:AUTO#IFEXIST. Problematic content can be addressed per WP:AUTOPROB. --Animalparty! (talk) 19:31, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. The only error I see so far is that Ohio State is not my alma mater, though I attended there for two years. http://www.isironline.org/2017-isir-prize-for-best-student-paper-emily-willoughby/ -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 20:59, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Fixed it. Congratulations and thanks for all the images you've contributed.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  22:07, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 23:36, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

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Friendly request

Greetings, I saw your paleo art Edits which were good, but would request that you include edit summaries. Shushugah (talk) 23:25, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your note--I admit to having fallen into lazy habits in the absence of much collaboration on the article, but I will add summaries nevertheless. Cheers! -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 01:09, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

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Long overdue, for your illustrations and writing! And of course, for rescuing the paleoart article from its sorry state. FunkMonk (talk) 11:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very kindly, FunkMonk! -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 15:03, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

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Hi, a regular vandal sock-puppet has uploaded one of your images to Commons, seemingly without permission. I have tagged it as a copyright violation, but thought it would be best to notify you (in case you somehow did give permission). FunkMonk (talk) 02:39, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi FunkMonk, thanks for letting me know. The irony is that I'd have been happy to release that particular illustration under Creative Commons, if asked. Should I wait for that one to be deleted, then upload a version from my WC account? -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 23:30, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Hmmm, that's a good question... Maybe you can just state on the talk page of the image that you agree with the licence and remove the deletion tag... Or you can upload it yourself, and then I'll tag that image as a duplicate... In the last case, there will be no doubt you agreed. FunkMonk (talk) 01:35, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Ok, I went ahead and uploaded it myself with the correct caption and etc. Not sure what to do about the copyright vandal, but from the look of his talk page at Commons, it looks like some sort of community action might be in order... in any case, I'll replace the image in the Sciurumimus article. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Cool, I've now deleted the "duplicate". That guy keeps coming back with new accounts, so it's almost pointless to block one account. On Misplaced Pages alone, he has all these blocked aliases: FunkMonk (talk) 22:48, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, since you wrote the The Origin of Birds article, I wonder if you own the book? I am currently expanding the Podokesaurus article, where I am summarising some of Gerhard Heilmann's Danish writings about that genus in the Danish journal of ornithology. So since the book is based on his earlier articles, I wonder if he also mentions the genus in the book? FunkMonk (talk) 22:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

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A different approach

Hi, do you have any thoughts about what would be the best approach to addressing the issue on Race and Intelligence, where the RfC is being used to justify misrepresenting the sources? Is it something that should be brought to ArbCom? Surely RfC cannot require the inclusion of material that fails WP:Verifiability, but that certainly seems to be the argument being made. Stonkaments (talk) 17:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

I think it's best to let the issue go for now, but not permanently. As I said in SMcCandlish's user talk, I'm planning to eventually try to address it myself within a few weeks. I don't think this dispute has yet reached the stage where Arbcom would accept it as a case, so I would advise against bringing it there until after there's been at least one more failed attempt at dispute resolution. It may eventually require their intervention, but let's hope that won't be necessary. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 22:39, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
@Stonkaments: BTW, the RFC is up now: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#RFC_on_sourcing_in_relation_to_race_and_intelligence I was hoping to get initial input from uninvolved editors, but that ship has sailed. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 23:56, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
@Stonkaments: Given that the RFC I attempted was a failure, you might reconsider requesting arbitration if you still want to do that (though I am not sure that would be helpful either, you’re welcomed to try). If you do, you might want to first discuss the matter with DGG, as he may have some advice about what issues a potential arbitration request should try to address. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 19:20, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Ok, I think I'll wait for the current discussion to resolve and then consult with DGG to see what would be best. Thank you for your effort and contributions—it's disheartening that the discussion got hijacked and derailed immediately. Stonkaments (talk) 22:34, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
@Stonkaments: If you think that the current RFC is inappropriate (as you said in your comment here), and if you also plan to request arbitration, it may be best to request it sooner rather than later. I don't see the benefit in waiting for an inappropriate discussion reach a conclusion, and in waiting for whatever further changes to the articles it will produce. I think ArbCom will consider themselves bound by the result of that discussion regardless of what process was used to reach it. But if DGG decides he thinks it's best to wait, I'll defer to his judgment. --AndewNguyen (talk) 13:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Ok, sure. I've reached out him here. Stonkaments (talk) 15:04, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

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I noticed your work on polygenic risk scores. Nice work. There's a draft article for a polygenic risk score analysis website that you perhaps would be interested in taking a look at? It could use some expert eyes

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I have seen your good comments here. I have looked at some history and discovered that some editors persistently remove views they don't like, though there are many studies / secondary source from mainstream publications supporting them. These people seems to have unlimited time of editing here and Misplaced Pages has to be in their way. Does Misplaced Pages work like this? --203.186.250.135 (talk) 15:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm glad that the list of secondary sources I posted in the earlier discussion was useful to you, but I don't think making that article consistent with the majority of recent secondary sources will be an easy task in the current editing environment. Unfortunately, yeah--Misplaced Pages does seem to work like that. Good luck to you if you want to take a crack at improving the article. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 23:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

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