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	::As I don't personally find the material objectionable, I'll leave it for other editors to also assess. Let's see if it stands then. The reason to support it using another source is to avoid original research or synthesis (], ]). Using a primary source alone and interpreting it ourselves is discouraged. (Note: I realize that you are a new editor; I have used the {{tl\|xsign}} template to attribute your above post; using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) at the end of your post would add your signature. Please see ] for more information on placing, indenting and signing posts.) Thanks, —]] – 20:28, 16 July 2018 (UTC)		::As I don't personally find the material objectionable, I'll leave it for other editors to also assess. Let's see if it stands then. The reason to support it using another source is to avoid original research or synthesis (], ]). Using a primary source alone and interpreting it ourselves is discouraged. (Note: I realize that you are a new editor; I have used the {{tl\|xsign}} template to attribute your above post; using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) at the end of your post would add your signature. Please see ] for more information on placing, indenting and signing posts.) Thanks, —]] – 20:28, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

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@Dominic inquisitive: I noticed the new addition. My concern is that this appears to only cite the primary source. If you know of a source describing it as a self-fulfilling prophecy, a secondary source, please consider adding it. Thanks, —Paleo Neonate – 18:56, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

@PaleoNeonate: Hello and thank you for the notification. I just thought the event fits the description of a self-fulfilling prophecy and so I included it. I am not aware of a source that describes it exactly as such, under these exact words, and for which I am convinced it's trustworthy enough.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dominic inquisitive (talk • contribs) 19:32, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

As I don't personally find the material objectionable, I'll leave it for other editors to also assess. Let's see if it stands then. The reason to support it using another source is to avoid original research or synthesis (WP:OR, WP:SYNTH). Using a primary source alone and interpreting it ourselves is discouraged. (Note: I realize that you are a new editor; I have used the {{xsign}} template to attribute your above post; using four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your post would add your signature. Please see WP:TALK for more information on placing, indenting and signing posts.) Thanks, —Paleo Neonate – 20:28, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Self-defilling

Many a self fulfilling prophecies end up in a disaster e.g. the tulip mania. Or if the estimate is, that there will be an economical crash due to COVID-19. If many politicians believe that this is correct and spend money to stimulate the economy, the result could be that the estimated economical downturn is prevented. Could this be called "self-defilling"? Zukunft (talk) 13:24, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Merton

Merton, though towering force in the field, was not the father of sociology. Ibn Khaldun, Comte, Weber, Ferguson, Durkheim and other luminaries in the field preceded him. Even simplewikipedia's short article on sociology names a number of sociologists before Merton. Sociology was taught as a subject in 1890, and a department of sociology was founded in 1904, six years before Merton was born. I am not going to change the entry, though, because of a combination o fWikipedia policy and the Internet's nature. To wit, Misplaced Pages relies on secondary sources, citing them even if wrong unless there is citable material to contradict the citation; the other point is that the source for labeling Merton the father of sociology is a site that I can't enter because it apparently requires one to be affiliated with the host university. Calling him the father of the sociology of science, on the other hand, would be warranted. Whether that would be relevant to this particular article is something for editors to decide.Kdammers (talk) 03:58, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

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