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::I'm not really sure why the fine wasn't set at $88M, or indeed any other random amount that Russia felt like imposing, not that it would make any difference to the eventual outcome. Unfortunately, Mr Putin also seems to be "incredibly popular in Russia", although probably mainly among those who have never heard of Misplaced Pages? ] (]) 15:19, 14 June 2022 (UTC) | ::I'm not really sure why the fine wasn't set at $88M, or indeed any other random amount that Russia felt like imposing, not that it would make any difference to the eventual outcome. Unfortunately, Mr Putin also seems to be "incredibly popular in Russia", although probably mainly among those who have never heard of Misplaced Pages? ] (]) 15:19, 14 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
::Interesting, thanks. It's good that WMF has no employees in Russia, and let's hope that the government there won't try to come after individual Misplaced Pages editors directly, as it has done with Facebook and Twitter. Interesting what you say about https. I guess that makes it a little less likely that Russian authorities will block Misplaced Pages, although one can't really count on them acting rationally given their recent actions. ] (]) 17:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC) | ::Interesting, thanks. It's good that WMF has no employees in Russia, and let's hope that the government there won't try to come after individual Misplaced Pages editors directly, as it has done with Facebook and Twitter. Interesting what you say about https. I guess that makes it a little less likely that Russian authorities will block Misplaced Pages, although one can't really count on them acting rationally given their recent actions. ] (]) 17:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
==Leaving Misplaced Pages for good because of the editor’s abuse of WP account and deleting good articles== | |||
I’m writing this letter in hope that one day Misplaced Pages will get better... I've experienced abuse by one of the administrators beyond any imagination (User:MER-C). I’m a good faith editor who created three good articles about academics and inventors. However, two of them were deleted by the administrator (User:MER-C) with the alleged accusation that I’m somehow related to a «sockpuppet farm» of | |||
* https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Marek.kapicak | |||
The administrator didn't give me a chance to file a complaint against the abuse or defend myself - there was no active investigation and no one gave me time to respond (violation of the WP due process on sockpuppet investigation?). I believe that the administrator simply does what he/she wants without a need to explain. There is no authority for the actions such as this and this is a big problem. I had been working for months on the articles doing my own research and all the people are clearly notable for Misplaced Pages. The person simply deleted two great articles and blocked my account without providing any proof. I'm more worried about the articles themselves than about my Misplaced Pages account as I spent so many hours doing them! I want to take this opportunity to claim: | |||
I want to take this opportunity to claim: | |||
*I’m a good faith editor and I’ve never heard of Marek Kapicak and his so called farm until I was blocked and notified about it by MER-C. I believe the person abused his authority and I’m asking to investigate his actions. I also believe that this administrator doesn’t respect editors and their hard work and treats them unethically with abuse of power if he/she can do what she did with my work. | |||
* I heard the name of the Marek kapicak first time when MER-C blocked my account without any proper investigation and without opportunity to defend myself or explain that he/she is completely wrong in this case. | |||
Honestly, I’m extremely disappointed by such abusive and wrongful treatment. Those articles were like flowers I had nourished for weeks and invested over hundred hours of my time to craft. They are very well referenced too. And then someone just comes and tramples them... This is how I feel now. I thought I was creating a better future for people who can read and learn but the reality is that editing wars and abusive behavior is a routine part of this project. | |||
Therefore, I’m leaving Misplaced Pages for good and I have no wish to contribute to this project. I don’t believe in projects where people are treated like sub-humans. The only reason I leave this message is that this abusive policy of mistreatment will end one day. ] (]) 23:15, 15 June 2022 (UTC) |
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How often do you use the special rights given to you by the WMF? Capsulecap 22:49, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Not often, but I also don't consider them to be "given to me by the WMF" to be precise.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 13:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Misuse of admin rights in Kz-wiki
Hello, Jimbo! Thanks for all your work. I am from Kazakh section. A little problem appeared there: one admin struck out all my writings on his talking page. Please say, what can I do in this situation? --Ерден Карсыбеков (talk) 19:20, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages court appeal in Russia
Hello, Jimbo. Today several news sources, e.g. , reported that WMF filed an appeal in a Moscow court challenging a lower court ruling that fine WMF $88K and ordered it to remove what Putin's government considers "disinformation" from several ru-wiki articles about 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. Given the recent actions of Putin's regime, the probability that WMF's appeal will succeed in Russian courts is pretty much zero. I am wondering what might happen if and when WMF's appeal is denied. Does the Russian government have the ability to enforce any kind of a fine against WMF? And does WMF have any property and employees in Russia? (I would hope not.) Do you think it is likely that Russia would block access to the entire ru-wiki (or maybe even to all Wikipedias, in all languages)? Or just to the pages about Russia's war in Ukraine? Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 01:43, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- For many of these questions, your guess will be as good as mine. A few I can answer: The WMF does not have any property or employees in Russia to my knowledge. From a technical perspective, because we use https, it is not possible for Russia to only block certain pages - they have a policy option to block all of Misplaced Pages, or none. Which makes it very difficult to block Misplaced Pages because it is incredibly popular in Russia and it is well known for being calm and neutral.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 15:10, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure why the fine wasn't set at $88M, or indeed any other random amount that Russia felt like imposing, not that it would make any difference to the eventual outcome. Unfortunately, Mr Putin also seems to be "incredibly popular in Russia", although probably mainly among those who have never heard of Misplaced Pages? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:19, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting, thanks. It's good that WMF has no employees in Russia, and let's hope that the government there won't try to come after individual Misplaced Pages editors directly, as it has done with Facebook and Twitter. Interesting what you say about https. I guess that makes it a little less likely that Russian authorities will block Misplaced Pages, although one can't really count on them acting rationally given their recent actions. Nsk92 (talk) 17:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Leaving Misplaced Pages for good because of the editor’s abuse of WP account and deleting good articles
I’m writing this letter in hope that one day Misplaced Pages will get better... I've experienced abuse by one of the administrators beyond any imagination (User:MER-C). I’m a good faith editor who created three good articles about academics and inventors. However, two of them were deleted by the administrator (User:MER-C) with the alleged accusation that I’m somehow related to a «sockpuppet farm» of
The administrator didn't give me a chance to file a complaint against the abuse or defend myself - there was no active investigation and no one gave me time to respond (violation of the WP due process on sockpuppet investigation?). I believe that the administrator simply does what he/she wants without a need to explain. There is no authority for the actions such as this and this is a big problem. I had been working for months on the articles doing my own research and all the people are clearly notable for Misplaced Pages. The person simply deleted two great articles and blocked my account without providing any proof. I'm more worried about the articles themselves than about my Misplaced Pages account as I spent so many hours doing them! I want to take this opportunity to claim:
I want to take this opportunity to claim:
- I’m a good faith editor and I’ve never heard of Marek Kapicak and his so called farm until I was blocked and notified about it by MER-C. I believe the person abused his authority and I’m asking to investigate his actions. I also believe that this administrator doesn’t respect editors and their hard work and treats them unethically with abuse of power if he/she can do what she did with my work.
- I heard the name of the Marek kapicak first time when MER-C blocked my account without any proper investigation and without opportunity to defend myself or explain that he/she is completely wrong in this case.
Honestly, I’m extremely disappointed by such abusive and wrongful treatment. Those articles were like flowers I had nourished for weeks and invested over hundred hours of my time to craft. They are very well referenced too. And then someone just comes and tramples them... This is how I feel now. I thought I was creating a better future for people who can read and learn but the reality is that editing wars and abusive behavior is a routine part of this project.
Therefore, I’m leaving Misplaced Pages for good and I have no wish to contribute to this project. I don’t believe in projects where people are treated like sub-humans. The only reason I leave this message is that this abusive policy of mistreatment will end one day. Ijustwantjustice (talk) 23:15, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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