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This is my point of view, I assure you I am in good faith, and I am sure your point of view takes into account something that did not occur to me. I will gladly read your opinion. --] (]) 14:26, 5 July 2022 (UTC) This is my point of view, I assure you I am in good faith, and I am sure your point of view takes into account something that did not occur to me. I will gladly read your opinion. --] (]) 14:26, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

== Stop vandalising my wiki submissions and clogging up my Talk Page! ==

== July 2022 ==

] Thank you for contributing to the article ]. However, please do not use unreliable sources such as blogs, your own website, websites and publications with a poor reputation for checking the facts or with no editorial oversight, expressing views that are widely acknowledged as extremist, that are promotional in nature, or that rely heavily on rumors and personal opinions, as one of Misplaced Pages's core policies is that contributions must be ] through ], preferably using ]. If you require further assistance, please look at ], or ask at the ]. For additional information, please see ] & ].<!-- Template:uw-unreliable --> ] (]) 18:54, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

If you look at the page you sent me to, it says "There is consensus that The New York Times is generally reliable... The 2018 RfC cites WP:MEDPOP to establish that popular press sources such as The New York Times should generally not be used to support medical claims." The news item I took from the Times has nothing to do with a medical claim. It is simply a report of Rucka's son getting arrested in NYC for committing vandalism and is 100% accurate. If you don't believe the story is true, please ask Mr. Rucka, and I'm sure he will corroborate it.
: Your source is: https://nypost.com/2020/09/06/comic-book-artists-son-arrested-in-blm-rampage-in-nyc/ which is the NY Post and not the New York Times.
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: This is an unreliable source which is why I am reverting your edits. Please do not ]; if you would like to add this information, please find a ]. ] (]) 01:52, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

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:I listed at least ten reference sources. You are the one engaging in an editing war. You are vandalizing my sourced additions and you have no right to do it. If you took the time to check the story, you'll see it is 100% true, and you have no right to keep removing my statements as they are sourced and referenced. If you persist in vandalising the sites, I will report you to wikipedia. ] (]) 22:33, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Stop clogging up my Talk Page with your inane comments. I have listed at least ten reference sources for the facts I submitted and you're saying that none of my sources are valid? What is your problem? This is pure vandalism! Stop deleting my work or I will report you to wikipedia. ] (]) 23:00, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

== Update on the Greg Rucka story ==

== Son's arrest ==

I propose leaving out . It had nothing to do with Rucka, and it was just an arrest.] (]) 20:27, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
: I agree. Rucka's son is a none notable person and ] states: {{xt|Accusations, investigations and arrests do not amount to a conviction. For individuals who are ]; that is, individuals not covered by § Public figures, editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed, or is accused of having committed, a crime, unless a conviction has been secured}}. ] also states that {{xt| In such cases, exercise restraint and include only material relevant to the person's notability, focusing on high-quality secondary sources}}. The sources that ] keeps finding are typically labeled generally unreliable/deprecated by ] (], ], & ]) or have little to no information about their editorial staff or policies (newzandar.com, reportdoor.com, etc). Given there's no high quality coverage of a conviction, I don't think it should be included here or at ]. ] (]) 21:02, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
::Even without that alphabet soup of policy, it just isn't relevant. If his son had a page of his own I'd agree all that policy would apply there, but on this page adding incidents involving his family that do not involve him other than some blood or relationship ties isn't irrelevant.] (]) 21:26, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
:::As you requested, I omitted all three of those reference sources, but I still have submitted at least eight others that are surely valid. The section on Rucka's personal life mentions him having a wife and 2 kids,so I didn't bring his family into this. If he wants his family mentioned, he should'nt mind having some facts emerge pertaining to his son's criminal activity. Also, his son travelled all the way from the west Coast to NYC to commit his vandalism, which makes this particular crime very intriguing and unusual to say the least. Who travels 3000 miles to break store windows and destroy innocent people's property? Maybe the types of comic book stories his father produces has encouraged this criminal behavior in his son, who knows? Nevertheless it certainly pertains to the article by giving insight into what kind of children this man has raised. And the story is 100% accurate, there's no doubt of that, since the references I've supplied actually shows the son's mug shot!! No room for doubt. ] (]) 22:40, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
::The statement I added only says his son was arrested by the NYPD for rioting, nothing more or less. It's just a fact, and it's backed up by many reference sources, as you can see. ] (]) 22:41, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
::I strongly suspect this Sariel Xiro person is in some way personally associated with Greg Rucka and is deleting any information that he (or she) doesn't like on his page, regardless of whether it's true or not. There is some kind of strong personal relationship going on here, otherwise why is she harassing me and reporting me for contributing a simple statement of fact that I've backed up with NUMEROUS reference sources?? In fact, why wasn't that story added to Rucka's page two years ago when it happened?? It's obvious she is a personal friend or acquaintance of his, or maybe just an overzealous fan. I'm asking wikipedia to investigate the connection between this Sariel person and Greg Rucka. The whole things smacks on censorship. Also, why are the NY Post, the Sun, and all of these other newspapers considered "unreliable", but the Washington Post and NY Times are fine?? Isn't that a little bit backwards there? Do I detect a prejudice against conservative news sources in general?? Every ONE of them is unreliable??? Something funny going on here. ] (]) 22:58, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
:It has everything to do with Rucka. It shows what kind of child he has raised, which says a lot about him as a father. Also his son travelled 3000 miles to commit his crimes that day, which makes it a very unusual and intriguing story in general. A very unique crime! ] (]) 23:03, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

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January 2022

I probably mentioned to you before that I have been compiling an enormous list of deleted and redirected tabletop games articles. It is truly epic, but by carving out more specific sets of articles it could be manageable; I have gotten help getting one or two restored here and there, and even done a few on my own. I think you are probably most comfortable with RPGs published in the 2010s because you have a skill at finding reviews published online. Would you like to take a look at this list below and see if there is anything with potential to be restored/rebuilt?:

Of course, I can restore anything that has been deleted, so if you see anything here worth working on let me know! BOZ (talk) 17:47, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Do you have any sources that could help improve Josh Mosqueira? BOZ (talk) 01:23, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Ogre (board game) has been nominated for GAR - not the biggest deal in the world to keep it as a GA, but never hurts to have the recognition. BOZ (talk) 13:36, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

I restored Psionics Handbook based on one review that I found, but are you aware of any others? BOZ (talk) 23:02, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Do you see any more sources for Mike Tinney, Dread: The First Book of Pandemonium, True Realm, or Ian Marsh (writer)? BOZ (talk) 13:18, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
Also today, TerraDrive. BOZ (talk) 13:18, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Alright - couldn't find anything useful for TerraDrive, Dread: The First Book of Pandemonium, True Realm or Ian Marsh. For Mike Tinney, Vice mentions he was the co-developer of the Street Fighter: The Storytelling Game. Pretty much struck out in research. Sariel Xilo (talk) 23:33, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
I had better luck with Psionics Handbook. Additionally, RPGGeek lists 4 reviews under linked items that might be useful if you can track them down (since I'm not great at finding older print magazines). Two appear to be in German. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:15, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
@BOZ: I actually think The Complete Psionics Handbook, Psionics Handbook, & Expanded Psionics Handbook should be merged since all three books are essentially different editions of the same sourcebook for the different editions of D&D (like Unearthed Arcana or Monster Manual). I think it would be stronger as a single article in terms of potential AfD challenges. Thoughts? Sariel Xilo (talk) 23:49, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

February 2022

Good work on Jason Carl! If you have more sources like that for any pages at User:BOZ/Draft pages maybe we could get some of those republished! Or beyond that, if you spot anything else at User:BOZ/Games deletions#Designers and artists that you want to take a shot at, we can get the page restored to draft space. :) BOZ (talk) 14:11, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Per his LinkedIn, he was at Microsoft from 2002-2012 (specifically Microsoft Game Studios from 2002 to 2009) but I can't find any sources for that besides a MobyGames credit list which places him on some Microsoft Game Studios products in that time period & a podcast interview summary. Can you see if there are better sources? Thanks! Sariel Xilo (talk) 17:56, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Nothing for him that I could see. BOZ (talk) 18:23, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Great work on the drow article too - I started working on it a long time ago to try to fit every bit of publication info I could in there... probably more than a little overkill, so judicious trimming is a good call. LOL BOZ (talk) 05:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm still not entirely sure how much of the "Greyhawk module storyline" should be left in! Do you think you could check any print magazine reviews of 3.5 Eberron books (like Secrets of Xen'drik) for commentary on the portrayal of drow? I'd like the "in various campaign settings" section to have more coverage on how the portrayals differed depending on world. Also, anything you can dig up for the Underdark because that needs work too. Thanks! Sariel Xilo (talk) 20:00, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
There wasn't a whole lot left in the print magazine industry for these games by the time 3.5 was in publication, but I will see if I can find anything - take a look at User:BOZ/Game magazine index for an idea when most of those publications were concentrated; Pyramid may be your best bet, but the reviews online are only samples unless you subscribe. Also, I think some of the non-English publications may have lasted longer than most if you can work with that. We definitely need some coverage of the "Giants" module series, as that is the first place - ever - that drow were more than just "hey, they exist". :) BOZ (talk) 20:11, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Do you see anything that could help with Ethan Skemp which is at PROD? BOZ (talk) 13:23, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@BOZ: Couldn't find anything on Skemp. Not going to be on much over the next few days but I just DEPRODed the ENnie Awards. If you could find anything else for it (Shannon Appelcline books?), that would helpful in case it goes to AfD. Thanks! Sariel Xilo (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Oh wow, good catch, thanks! I will see what I can do. BOZ (talk) 17:42, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Unfortunately, as I suspected all Appelcline talks about the Ennies is who won or was nominated for an award. I notified several other users of the PROD/dePROD so maybe someone else will come up with something good! BOZ (talk) 19:32, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
I added a little to the article, if that helps. BOZ (talk) 05:37, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

March 2022

Do you have anything that might help Draft:Scott Fitzgerald Gray get back into article space? BOZ (talk) 19:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

There are a number of podcast / actual play articles in draft space, are any of them worth working on?

BOZ (talk) 01:57, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Do you see anything more for Super Genius Games? BOZ (talk) 13:21, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Do you see any more sources to help build the reception section on the Origins award-winning Adventures in Middle-earth which was once nominated for AFD? BOZ (talk) 16:48, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Or do you see anything for Star Wars Roleplaying Game (Fantasy Flight Games) or Settlers of America: Trails to Rails? BOZ (talk) 17:36, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

April 2022

I don't know if you got a chance to see these before they were deleted, but you were pretty new here at that time. :) I got Draft:List of Dungeons & Dragons 4th edition monsters and Draft:List of Dungeons & Dragons 5th edition monsters (and all the other editions) restored to draft space with the intention of getting them built up well enough to move back into article space in time. :) The 2E list never got deleted, so that was built up considerably over time, with all sorts of new independent sources. Starting last week I mostly copied all of that information to the other lists, although I'm sure some of it does not make sense to be listed on every edition, but whereas most of these lists had few if any non-primary sources, they now have dozens - if not over 100! :) BOZ (talk) 22:06, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

If I can manage to get either or both of those restored to article space, it would be a good place to build up sources for the monsters (like was done on List of Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 2nd edition monsters over the last two+ years) which would hopefully eventually lead to some of those articles making a comeback. :) I should also note that I got Draft:Orc (Dungeons & Dragons) and Draft:Centaur (Dungeons & Dragons) restored recently for that very potential reason! BOZ (talk) 01:00, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

If you come across any sources that would be useful for List of Spelljammer crystal spheres let me know, so I can request it to be moved to draft space. :) Likewise if you see anything for Monsters of Spelljammer (). I know those are minutiae, but you never know what might come up, there were plenty of sources for Ravenloft fictional elements when a sourcebook for that setting was printed not long ago! BOZ (talk) 17:54, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

May 2022

Would Draft:Coyote & Crow be worthy of your time and effort? I saw someone posting about it and found the idea fascinating at least. BOZ (talk) 22:26, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Do you have any sources which could help with Doug Kovacs? BOZ (talk) 02:17, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

How about for Infernum (role-playing game)? BOZ (talk) 12:43, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

@BOZ: RPG Geek lists a few reviews for the first two volumes but I couldn't find them. Infernum, Volume I: Book of the Damned was reviewed in: "Eye on Mongoose" Signs & Portents (Issue 20, Mar 2005, pg2), "Games" Game Trade Magazine (Issue 209, Jul 2017, pg25), and "RPG Reviews" Fictional Reality (Issue 20, Jun 2005, pg83) . Infernum, Volume II: Book of the Tormentor was also reviewed in "RPG Reviews" Fictional Reality (Issue 20, Jun 2005, pg83) . If you can track the reviews down, that might be enough to fill in the reception section. Sariel Xilo (talk) 16:41, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

June 2022

Do you see anything more for Peter J. Wacks, who has done some work on CCGs? BOZ (talk) 22:29, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

How about for Smuggler's Guide to the Rim? BOZ (talk) 12:25, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

July 2022

Ms. Marvel episode reviews

You did a good job with the review section for episode 1 of Ms. Marvel, so not sure if you're interested in adding reviews for the other episodes. Episode 4 can move to the mainspace once it has reviews. -- Zoo (talk) 19:32, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

RPGs and games

A draft was started at Draft:Ajit George for one of the authors of your Draft:Journeys through the Radiant Citadel in case you have anything you want to add to that. :) BOZ (talk) 19:35, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Page has been merged with live article Ajit George. BOZ (talk) 20:13, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Another draft started for one of the authors of Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft at Draft:Banana Chan. BOZ (talk) 19:31, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

I started The Monsters Know What They’re Doing last week, and hope to add more articles on recent Ennie Award winners. :) BOZ (talk) 17:12, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

I was reminded by the most recent nomination announcement that I wanted to create an article for Uncaged (anthology). I also think that Ancestry & Culture: An Alternative to Race in 5e (Arcanist Press) had enough coverage so I'll probably circle back to that to see if I can make an article for it. I don't have time to continue updating the formatting of the Ennie list articles. If you have time, would you please add the subarticle tag to the respective talk pages (just so it is clear that the lists were spun-out)? Thanks! Sariel Xilo (talk) 17:34, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
I'm definitely busy with work and other on-wiki projects, but I can at least add that tag to the talk pages for you. I'm looking into making Mothership Player's Survival Guide and ALIEN: The Roleplaying Game next, possibly even by the time you read this message. :) BOZ (talk) 18:25, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Do you see anything for Lisa Trutkoff Trumbauer? BOZ (talk) 03:23, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Ms. Marvel LDR

Hi, good work on the Kamala Khan draft. Just a heads up, I recommend using WP:LDR, preferably not to clutter text with refs in diffs (did that rhyme?) I advise to add some archives to Cite web templates and perhaps replace the mutant refs with the same mutant refs from Marvel Cinematic Universe, Draft:Mutant (Marvel Cinematic Universe), and Draft:No Normal (also WP:INFOBOXREF). — SirDot (talk) 23:26, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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Asexual representation article

Just wanted to say thank you for adding the source / quote to entry for Straight Up on the asexual representation article. I've been frustrated lately when other editors just remove edits that fall short instead of improving them, so it was refreshing to see another editor collaborate to create useful information. Camipco (talk) 05:39, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

@Camipco: Thanks! I tend to try and verify info if I have the time. It also helped that I could vaguely recall the writer/director talking about it from when I did research on the film for its article (essentially about how a lot of the film isn't straight forward in its presentation of identity or romance). Sariel Xilo (talk) 06:17, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits on ND Stevenson

It definitely improves the page and makes it that much better, especially on Critical Role. I had previously only described Nimona as a comic rather than a webcomic because it was a webcomic, but later it was published in a book form. So, I suppose it is better to just call it a webcomic. --Historyday01 (talk) 23:36, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

List of Dragonlance novels#Novels

Hello.

I see you reverted my edit. Let us talk about it. I am afraid that the root of the "problem" is that you are pro-mobiles, while I am pro-computers.

It could be my mobile or the mobile browser I use, but I completely disagree on your statement "makes it more accessible (especially on mobile)".

Anyway, years ago I created a page titled "List of Dragonlance novels by author", because the books by the same author often have consistency (e.g. Richard Knaak is the author of all the stories of Kaz the Minotaur) and one author usually has a consistent writing style. The page was deleted when the main "List of Dragonlance novels" was turned into a sortable table. Indeed, if you can sort one, single table by author, the page "List of Dragonlance novels by author" becomes redundant.

On the other hand, splitting the table into decades means forcing a sorting order by publication year. In this case, the page "List of Dragonlance novels by author" should be restored.

(By the way, what does "rvt" mean? I found 27 meanings for it (on abbreviations.com), and none fits.)

This is my point of view, I assure you I am in good faith, and I am sure your point of view takes into account something that did not occur to me. I will gladly read your opinion. --Abacos (talk) 14:26, 5 July 2022 (UTC)