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| *'''Keep''' '']'' is certainly a ] for science fiction concepts, and even if it weren't ] (who wrote the entry in question, see ) is a subject-matter expert. The concept also gets an entry in '''' as well as a page and a half in ''''. So this is clearly notable. I'll start rewriting it as a proper prose article about the topic shortly. ] (]) 19:53, 26 July 2022 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' '']'' is certainly a ] for science fiction concepts, and even if it weren't ] (who wrote the entry in question, see ) is a subject-matter expert. The concept also gets an entry in '''' as well as a page and a half in ''''. So this is clearly notable. I'll start rewriting it as a proper prose article about the topic shortly. ] (]) 19:53, 26 July 2022 (UTC) | ||
| :* '''Comment''' I'm always cautious about an edit that cuts an article down to a ] without discussion. Your ] cuts are taken in ] and I agree with them, but I'm left with something that would be redirected to ], and it feels close enough to deletion that a discussion felt like a better idea. Thanks for attempting a ], and an expansion might address the AFD issues, or at least get it into a mergeable state. Just remember that notability calls for ] sources, not ]. ] (]) 20:34, 26 July 2022 (UTC) | :* '''Comment''' I'm always cautious about an edit that cuts an article down to a ] without discussion. Your ] cuts are taken in ] and I agree with them, but I'm left with something that would be redirected to ], and it feels close enough to deletion that a discussion felt like a better idea. Thanks for attempting a ], and an expansion might address the AFD issues, or at least get it into a mergeable state. Just remember that notability calls for ] sources, not ]. ] (]) 20:34, 26 July 2022 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Comment''' This could go a couple ways. If a time viewer is, as one source puts it, "a passive form of time machine" it could be redirected to become a subsection of ], or if a literary context is the primary focus, ]. If real life claims of time viewing are the focus, it could be a subsection of ]. ] (]) 21:03, 26 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
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Couldn't find reliable secondary sources with WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:NOTABILITY guideline. There aren't reliable references to the concept of a "time viewer", making me concerned that this is an WP:OR compilation of concepts that an editor is subjectively comparing. (For example, a trivial mention from NASA that is referring to something very different from what the article purports to be about.) The only source is another online encyclopedia which isn't a reliable secondary source, and may be circularly pulling material from this WP:OR Misplaced Pages article. Jontesta (talk) 18:46, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Jontesta (talk) 18:46, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction is certainly a WP:Reliable source for science fiction concepts, and even if it weren't David Langford (who wrote the entry in question, see here) is a subject-matter expert. The concept also gets an entry in Brave New Words as well as a page and a half in All the Wonder that Would Be: Exploring Past Notions of the Future. So this is clearly notable. I'll start rewriting it as a proper prose article about the topic shortly. TompaDompa (talk) 19:53, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I'm always cautious about an edit that cuts an article down to a one line WP:DICTDEF without discussion. Your WP:BOLD cuts are taken in good faith and I agree with them, but I'm left with something that would be redirected to time travel, and it feels close enough to deletion that a discussion felt like a better idea. Thanks for attempting a WP:TNT, and an expansion might address the AFD issues, or at least get it into a mergeable state. Just remember that notability calls for secondary sources, not WP:TERTIARY. Jontesta (talk) 20:34, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment This could go a couple ways. If a time viewer is, as one source puts it, "a passive form of time machine" it could be redirected to become a subsection of time machine, or if a literary context is the primary focus, List of time travel in fiction. If real life claims of time viewing are the focus, it could be a subsection of Time travel claims and urban legends. - LuckyLouie (talk) 21:03, 26 July 2022 (UTC)