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:In a low-impact alt-med journal which would presumably provide as generous a hearing as homeopathy would ever get, the authors were still only able to torture the data enough to produce a ''we-need-more-studies'' conclusion. Even they were forced to admit that "''...when the analysis was restricted to the methodologically best trials no significant effect was seen.''" Rigorous tests of homeopathy produce negative results. ](]) 15:23, 11 June 2022 (UTC) | :In a low-impact alt-med journal which would presumably provide as generous a hearing as homeopathy would ever get, the authors were still only able to torture the data enough to produce a ''we-need-more-studies'' conclusion. Even they were forced to admit that "''...when the analysis was restricted to the methodologically best trials no significant effect was seen.''" Rigorous tests of homeopathy produce negative results. ](]) 15:23, 11 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
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I would actually love to read from someone who doesn’t seem to have such a negative bias towards the practice of Homeopathy write in this. Maybe taking the time to listen to people who practice this form of medicine and not blame personal preference on some sort of phobia all together. ] (]) 19:43, 1 September 2022 (UTC) |
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Why is the information on Homoeopathy not updated? As technology advances, new researches have been undertaken by CCRH, India , BSc students, IIT Mumbai and can show new evidences about working of Homoeopathy 2A00:23C6:190C:6D00:E103:1AF8:5EF1:6914 (talk) 14:09, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- Seems up-to-date to me. If you have new information, you are welcome to propose a change to the article. Don't forget to cite the sources backing the changes you are proposing. I also strongly suggest that you read the FAQ at te top of this page as well as the archives of this talk page to get familiar with previous discussions on the same subject. --McSly (talk) 15:11, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
Homoeopathy is a science and therefore it is still existing.. Before claiming it as PSEUDOSCIENCE, kindly check the respective literature. One is unable to find medicinal particles in the dilution doesn't mean that it doesn't contain it. Similarly One can take example of Electricity. You know power house etc.. but when the switch you on makes the light on, do you see any visible energy? Homoeopathy Similarly works in this way. h Nidhidaven (talk) 14:35, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- The relevant academic literature has exhaustive consensus against considering homeopathy as a science and regardless of the mechanism, no effectiveness beyond placebo has been shown as for its medicinal effect. agucova (talk) 14:39, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
One is unable to find medicinal particles in the dilution doesn't mean that it doesn't contain it.
- Resorting to Russell's teapot is not a great argument. Your argument about electricity is just plain asinine, since we have ample evidence of how electricity works & can even measure its presence (unlike your "water memory"). — The Hand That Feeds You: 15:25, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
…but when the switch you on makes the light on, do you see any visible energy?
- The light wouldn’t be much use if you couldn’t. But quite apart from that, there’s no good evidence for efficacy, the ideas behind it are contradicted by what we know about chemistry, physics and arithmetic, and we have appropriate RSs that say it is pseudoscience. Brunton (talk) 18:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Even by the standards of this talk page 'do you see any visible energy when you turn on the lights' has to be one of the weakest arguments yet. Dilution to non-existence doesn't improve efficacy around here. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:54, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- To answer the OP's question, as we owe them that much, YES indeed we do. I fear they may not understand the answer, as they certainly dont understand their own question. Ah well, nevermind. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 19:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Even by the standards of this talk page 'do you see any visible energy when you turn on the lights' has to be one of the weakest arguments yet. Dilution to non-existence doesn't improve efficacy around here. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:54, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Well, just as we have invented special devices for detecting energy, implicitly there should be some way to invent devices to detect the medicinal particles. Once such is invented, then homeopathy can be considered a proper science. JumboDS64 (talk) 21:45, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- We have devices capable of detecting medicinal particles, lots of them. The funny thing is, when they are pointed at homeopathic remedies, no such particles show up. One assumes that is why they don't work. Girth Summit (blether) 21:50, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Homoeopathy not Homeopathy
People often confuse the two as they don’t understand the significance of the name “Homoeopathy”. Homois means like or similar - pathos means suffering and hence Homoeopathy means similar suffering. It should not be misspelt as Homeopathy with all due respect. 86.190.168.98 (talk) 14:18, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- The relevant part of the WP:MOS is WP:COMMONNAME. We don't concern ourselves with whether or not a name is 'correct', we look at what the sources call it. The 'homoeopathy' spelling variant is included in the article, but the majority of sources in the article itself seem to use the 'homeopathy' variant. I did a quick check on Google now: 'homoeopathy' gets about 19 million hits, whereas 'homeopathy' gets 1,400 million hits. I think out current title is the correct choice, in terms of our internal style guide. Girth Summit (blether) 14:29, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you Girth. For many years I used the "correct" spelling everywhere, but the usage thing won me over and the incorrect spelling everybody uses no longer grates with me. I still see red when I see Fiber instead of Fibre though, but that isn't quite the same thing as it is a regional variation. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 14:56, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- homeo- and homoeo- are the identical prefix; it's just spelled two ways, like color and colour. Both spellings are fine. Equinox ◑ 22:28, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
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There has been mounting scientific evidence that Homoeopathy works Dr Anand Pariyarath (talk) 17:21, 24 April 2022 (UTC) There is mounting scientific, clinical and statistical evidence that Homoeopathy is effective in mitigating and curing different diseases. Dr Anand Pariyarath (talk) 17:25, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- (1) No there isn't (2) If I am wrong you will presumably be able to provide multiple WP:MEDRS-compatible sources to confirm this. Black Kite (talk) 17:34, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9884175/
Randomized controlled trials of individualized homeopathy: a state-of-the-art review
"Conclusion: The results of the available randomized trials suggest that individualized homeopathy has an effect over placebo. The evidence, however, is not convincing because of methodological shortcomings and inconsistencies. Future research should focus on replication of existing promising studies. New randomized studies should be preceded by pilot studies." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jay1938 (talk • contribs) 15:10, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Jay. I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying here. Are you supporting or opposing the OP? Your citation does not support them. - Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 15:15, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- In a low-impact alt-med journal which would presumably provide as generous a hearing as homeopathy would ever get, the authors were still only able to torture the data enough to produce a we-need-more-studies conclusion. Even they were forced to admit that "...when the analysis was restricted to the methodologically best trials no significant effect was seen." Rigorous tests of homeopathy produce negative results. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:23, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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