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The first paragraph of this article is overly complex and does not give a clear description of this disorder that would be accessible to many people who do not have a background in the subject. The first paragraph of this article is overly complex and does not give a clear description of this disorder that would be accessible to many people who do not have a background in the subject.
:'''Reactive Attachment Disorder''' (sometimes called "RAD")(] 313.89, ] F94.1/2) is a psychophysiologic condition secondary to pathogenic behaviour from a caregiver during the first three years of life which would, in the absence of such pathogenic behaviour, normally meet well-timed milestones, so that the developmental trajectory is qualitatively different from the superficially similar failures or deviances in ] and ]). This pathogenic caregiving behaviour constitutes any form of neglect, ], mistreatment and ]. :'''Reactive Attachment Disorder''' (sometimes called "RAD")(] 313.89, ] F94.1/2) is a psychophysiologic condition secondary to pathogenic behaviour from a caregiver during the first three years of life which would, in the absence of such pathogenic behaviour, normally meet well-timed milestones, so that the developmental trajectory is qualitatively different from the superficially similar failures or deviances in ] and ]). This pathogenic caregiving behaviour constitutes any form of neglect, ], mistreatment and ].
The DSM-IV intro is much clearer. The DSM-IV intro is much clearer.
:The essential feature of Reactive Attachment Disorder is markedly disturbed and developmentally inappropriate social relatedness in most contexts that begins before age 5 years and is associated with grossy pathological care. :The essential feature of Reactive Attachment Disorder is markedly disturbed and developmentally inappropriate social relatedness in most contexts that begins before age 5 years and is associated with grossy pathological care.
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:'''Reactive Attachment Disorder''' (sometimes called "RAD")(] 313.89, ] F94.1/2) is a psychophysiologic condition with markedly disturbed and developmentally inappropriate social relatedness in most contexts that begins before age five years and is associated with grossly pathological care. This pathological caregiving behaviour may consist of any form of neglect, ], mistreatment and ]. :'''Reactive Attachment Disorder''' (sometimes called "RAD")(] 313.89, ] F94.1/2) is a psychophysiologic condition with markedly disturbed and developmentally inappropriate social relatedness in most contexts that begins before age five years and is associated with grossly pathological care. This pathological caregiving behaviour may consist of any form of neglect, ], mistreatment and ].


:In ] attachments to caregivers are consistent with the level of development. In ] attachments to caregivers either fail to develop or are highly deviant, but this usually occurs in a context of reasonably supportive care. :In ] attachments to caregivers are consistent with the level of development. In ] attachments to caregivers either fail to develop or are highly deviant, but this usually occurs in a context of reasonably supportive care.
--] 22:19, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC) --] 22:19, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)



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do we need all of those footnots? -- from cleanup

my persional oppinion is yes, yes, YES. infact i would go as far to sa that this is what most wikipedia articals lack tooto 22:20, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Introduction

The first paragraph of this article is overly complex and does not give a clear description of this disorder that would be accessible to many people who do not have a background in the subject.

Reactive Attachment Disorder (sometimes called "RAD")(DSM-IV 313.89, ICD-10 F94.1/2) is a psychophysiologic condition secondary to pathogenic behaviour from a caregiver during the first three years of life which would, in the absence of such pathogenic behaviour, normally meet well-timed milestones, so that the developmental trajectory is qualitatively different from the superficially similar failures or deviances in Mental retardation and Pervasive developmental disorders). This pathogenic caregiving behaviour constitutes any form of neglect, abuse, mistreatment and abandonment.

The DSM-IV intro is much clearer.

The essential feature of Reactive Attachment Disorder is markedly disturbed and developmentally inappropriate social relatedness in most contexts that begins before age 5 years and is associated with grossy pathological care.

May I suggest this replacement:

Reactive Attachment Disorder (sometimes called "RAD")(DSM-IV 313.89, ICD-10 F94.1/2) is a psychophysiologic condition with markedly disturbed and developmentally inappropriate social relatedness in most contexts that begins before age five years and is associated with grossly pathological care. This pathological caregiving behaviour may consist of any form of neglect, abuse, mistreatment and abandonment.
In Mental retardation attachments to caregivers are consistent with the level of development. In Pervasive developmental disorders attachments to caregivers either fail to develop or are highly deviant, but this usually occurs in a context of reasonably supportive care.

--CloudSurfer 22:19, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thank you, CloudSurfer.
Imagine that, to have written a first paragraph to an article in an online encyclopedia that is much less clear than the DSM-IV. And that book is not a piece of obscurantist dogma, or it shouldn't be.
Still, four big words in the middle clause (the one that begins with 'so that'...)- I am not doing that again in a big hurry! The four were 'developmental' 'trajectory' (might have just said 'path', but that might have connoted spirituality), 'qualitiatively' and 'superficial'.
The lack of clarity was in part due to political correctness: or, more simply, not wanting to offend anybody in the three diagnostic categories mentioned. As you might see, 'markedly disturbed' and 'developmentally inappropriate' are very loaded words (though usually not meant so in the medical context), as when discussing Pervasive Developmental Disorders as being 'highly deviant' in this area. This is well-balanced by the 'reasonably supportive care'.
Apart from these points, I do agree with the replacement and the editing of the first paragraph. I suppose 'pathogenic' would be a loaded word too (as psychogenic had been), as compared to pathological, in terms of how things are caused.
As to the background thing would this 'markedly disturbed' and 'developmentally appropriate' be obvious to doctors, to parents, and/or to you and me?
Your edits make much better that point that Reactive Attachment Disorder is different, especially to the ordinary reader.
Just a little point: it is five years, not three, according to the DSM-IV?

EuropracBHIT

Thanks for that, so it seems you are happy with the suggestions so I have put it in, with 5 not 3 years. I just wanted to check that I wansn't missing anything crucial. --CloudSurfer 05:11, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)