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::So the Wiki paints the Outlet as a propaganda machine, but never shows the data. What is worse, the hard data it shows demostrates the reliability of the Outlet on those topics. | ::So the Wiki paints the Outlet as a propaganda machine, but never shows the data. What is worse, the hard data it shows demostrates the reliability of the Outlet on those topics. | ||
::What is going on? ] (]) 03:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC) | ::What is going on? ] (]) 03:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC) | ||
::: The ''propaganda'' descriptor is supported by ] to ], authored by 22 people, none of whom are "bloggers". "Amount of viewers and record views" are irrelevant when determining whether something is propaganda or not. ] (]) | ::: The ''propaganda'' descriptor is supported by ] to ], authored by 22 people, none of whom are "bloggers". "Amount of viewers and record views" are irrelevant when determining whether something is propaganda or not. ] (]) 08:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC) | ||
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'censorship'
Russia censors all its media. Russia uses the RT as a tool of his war in Ukraine (as far the only Russian war). No w we have ban of war hate propaganda 'censorship'.Xx236 (talk) 05:52, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- If you do not understand - ask instead to censor me.
- Usage of the word 'censorship' in this context is a pro-Russian statement, a neutral word should be used. This is not a computer game, this a genocidal war, in which any military, propaganda, economic tool is being used by Russia. Russia is the invider.Xx236 (talk) 09:38, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Anther joke 'an autonomous non-profit organization' under Putin's rules. Russia is not the UK, please do not misuse Western words descibing the authoritarian state. Xx236 (talk) 09:42, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- 'after Russia's annexation of Crimea' - the referenced sourse says also about Donbas, not only about Crimea.Xx236 (talk) 09:49, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- TFD above "Your sources in fact explain why RT fulfils a propaganda function". The function has been changing, so 'fulfils' misleads. 'Why' is obvious, becasue the Russian leadership (sometimes callled Putin) has decided so. Xx236 (talk) 09:55, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Recent opinions presented by Margarita Simonyan are genocidal ("Russian media chief welcomes prospect of global FAMINE" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10940035/Russian-media-chief-welcomes-prospect-global-FAMINE-sparked-Ukraine-invasion.html). Xx236 (talk) 10:01, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Propaganda
There is an edit war regarding 'propaganda'. As far as I know the goal of RT is not propaganda of Russia as a successful land (there is such a recent video), but anarchization of the West, hybrid warfare. So perhaps not propaganda, but 'Hybrid warfare (Political warfare and individual terror)? Or Political warfare only?Xx236 (talk) 06:57, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- https://www.state.gov/report-rt-and-sputniks-role-in-russias-disinformation-and-propaganda-ecosystem/ Disinformation and propaganda Xx236 (talk) 08:01, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- https://newrepublic.com/article/165813/russian-propaganda-rt-america-end Xx236 (talk) 08:11, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps i dont understand how the Wiki works, but having read the whole article i found a lot of acusations. Many by people of dubious relevance - the director of some obscure series? what does he know of this? Credentials? Another: ONE blogger?
- Then, right next, lots of data disprobing those acusations. ( Amount of viewers and record views, for example )
- And lastly, i could not find any example of straight out lies or misrepresentation of news in the whole page. Just praise for showing independent views.
- So the Wiki paints the Outlet as a propaganda machine, but never shows the data. What is worse, the hard data it shows demostrates the reliability of the Outlet on those topics.
- What is going on? 2803:9800:9996:74EC:4D:234C:82C2:8B39 (talk) 03:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- The propaganda descriptor is supported by sixteen citations to reliable sources, authored by 22 people, none of whom are "bloggers". "Amount of viewers and record views" are irrelevant when determining whether something is propaganda or not. Kleinpecan (talk) 08:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
Crosstalk
Did RT cancel Crosstalk? 73.230.160.102 (talk) 13:36, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
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