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Section sizes Section size for RT (TV network) (50 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 55,351 55,351 History 13 60,725 Foundation 6,616 6,616 Development and expansion 9,839 9,839 2012–2021 22,515 22,515 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine 20,750 20,750 2023–present 992 992 Organization 6,437 44,457 Budget 6,978 6,978 Network 12,836 12,836 Ratings/impact 15,085 18,206 Followers 473 473 Impact 2,648 2,648 Programming 2,443 16,337 The Alyona Show 2,173 2,173 Adam vs. the Man 2,009 2,009 World Tomorrow 1,596 1,596 Other shows 1,372 1,372 #1917LIVE 1,373 1,373 Programs 610 3,703 Current 1,343 1,343 Former 1,750 1,750 On-air staff 1,668 1,668 Guests 9,042 9,042 Content 3,138 48,134 Propaganda and related issues 21,079 21,079 Disinformation and conspiracy theories 13,285 13,285 Treatment of Putin and Medvedev 1,583 1,583 Anti-Americanism and anti-Westernism 5,121 5,121 Israeli–Palestinian conflict 1,473 1,473 Climate change denial 1,337 1,337 COVID-19 misinformation 1,118 1,118 Responses 16 64,422 States 16,491 16,491 Political involvement 5,265 5,265 Other responses 24 42,650 2008–2012 5,790 5,790 2014 10,599 10,599 2015–2016 11,303 11,303 2017–2018 5,051 5,051 2021 1,480 1,480 2022 5,918 5,918 2024 2,485 2,485 Awards and nominations 4,662 4,662 See also 281 281 Explanatory notes 197 197 References 17 76 Notes 28 28 Citations 31 31 External links 1,769 1,769 Total 305,453 305,453

'censorship'

Russia censors all its media. Russia uses the RT as a tool of his war in Ukraine (as far the only Russian war). No w we have ban of war hate propaganda 'censorship'.Xx236 (talk) 05:52, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

If you do not understand - ask instead to censor me.

Usage of the word 'censorship' in this context is a pro-Russian statement, a neutral word should be used. This is not a computer game, this a genocidal war, in which any military, propaganda, economic tool is being used by Russia. Russia is the invider.Xx236 (talk) 09:38, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Anther joke 'an autonomous non-profit organization' under Putin's rules. Russia is not the UK, please do not misuse Western words descibing the authoritarian state. Xx236 (talk) 09:42, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

'after Russia's annexation of Crimea' - the referenced sourse says also about Donbas, not only about Crimea.Xx236 (talk) 09:49, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

TFD above "Your sources in fact explain why RT fulfils a propaganda function". The function has been changing, so 'fulfils' misleads. 'Why' is obvious, becasue the Russian leadership (sometimes callled Putin) has decided so. Xx236 (talk) 09:55, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Recent opinions presented by Margarita Simonyan are genocidal ("Russian media chief welcomes prospect of global FAMINE" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10940035/Russian-media-chief-welcomes-prospect-global-FAMINE-sparked-Ukraine-invasion.html). Xx236 (talk) 10:01, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Propaganda

There is an edit war regarding 'propaganda'. As far as I know the goal of RT is not propaganda of Russia as a successful land (there is such a recent video), but anarchization of the West, hybrid warfare. So perhaps not propaganda, but 'Hybrid warfare (Political warfare and individual terror)? Or Political warfare only?Xx236 (talk) 06:57, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

https://www.state.gov/report-rt-and-sputniks-role-in-russias-disinformation-and-propaganda-ecosystem/ Disinformation and propaganda Xx236 (talk) 08:01, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

https://newrepublic.com/article/165813/russian-propaganda-rt-america-end Xx236 (talk) 08:11, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps i dont understand how the Wiki works, but having read the whole article i found a lot of acusations. Many by people of dubious relevance - the director of some obscure series? what does he know of this? Credentials? Another: ONE blogger?

Then, right next, lots of data disprobing those acusations. ( Amount of viewers and record views, for example )

And lastly, i could not find any example of straight out lies or misrepresentation of news in the whole page. Just praise for showing independent views.

So the Wiki paints the Outlet as a propaganda machine, but never shows the data. What is worse, the hard data it shows demostrates the reliability of the Outlet on those topics.

What is going on? 2803:9800:9996:74EC:4D:234C:82C2:8B39 (talk) 03:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

The propaganda descriptor is supported by sixteen citations to reliable sources, authored by 22 people, none of whom are "bloggers". "Amount of viewers and record views" are irrelevant when determining whether something is propaganda or not. Kleinpecan (talk) 08:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Using just the first of those citations as example, its a Times article saying that a disaster documentary was made by a Russian company. With interviews and points of view of local people, not russians. Propaganda? ok i guess.

Go to Section GUESTS, there you have your blogger and obscure director sharing their thoughts. And not as Guests.

Nevertheless im not speaking of obscure sources or political labels, but the plain text of the article using the Ratings/impact section as an example. Ok, i ll show it right here. The section starts thus :

"The RT website (as of March 2022), maintains that "since June 2012", RT has "consistently and significantly outperforms other foreign channels including Euronews and Fox News. RT’s quarterly audience in the UK is 2.5 million viewers"

Next are 10 lines of multiple falsehood accusations challenging that. Then it closes with :

" In the UK, the Broadcasters' Audience Research Board (BARB) has included RT in the viewer data it publishes since 2012. According to their data, approximately 2.5 million Britons watched RT during the third quarter of 2012, making it the third most-watched rolling news channel in Britain, behind BBC News and Sky News (not including Sky Sports News). "

Followed by another 7 lines finally the veracity of the opening RT Web statement and other positive observations.

This " format " is repeated over the whole place. Wich of the sources do i trust? All of them are supposedly reliable, but they contradict each other.

Re-read the article and everyone will find these inconsistencies all over the place. 2803:9800:9996:74EC:8460:E476:B944:63CA (talk) 23:09, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

The first of the 16 citations for the propaganda descriptor is:

Langdon, Kate C.; Tismaneanu, Vladimir (9 July 2019). "Russian Foreign Policy: Freedom for Whom, to Do What?". Putin's Totalitarian Democracy: Ideology, Myth, and Violence in the Twenty-First Century. Springer International. pp. 189–224. ISBN 978-3-030-20579-9. Retrieved 21 March 2021 – via Google Books. Soviet-born British journalist Peter Pomerantsev documented the typical newsroom antics in one of Russia's largest propaganda outlets, RT News (formerly known as Russia Today). When his acquaintance composed a piece that referenced the Soviet Union's occupation of Estonia in 1945, the writer was chewed out by his boss, who maintained the belief that Russians saved Estonia. Any other descriptions of the events of 1945 were unacceptable assaults on Russia's integrity, apparently, so the boss demanded that he amend his text.

The citation from The Times that you are referring to is the first citation in the Misplaced Pages article, and is not one of the 16 citations for the propaganda descriptor. Additionally, your comment is conflating the number of viewers RT has with RT's purpose as a propaganda outlet; the number of viewers that RT has is irrelevant to the fact that RT is a propaganda outlet. — Newslinger talk 10:54, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

The term propaganda appears in the article 93 times, including footnotes. Instead of listing sources that refer to RT as a propaganda network, it would be useful to explain what they mean by this and provide their arguments.

As I understand it, the reason it was seen as propaganda is that it provided stories and opinions that tend to be ignored in U.S. media. For example, it broadcast a debate between minor party candidates for U.S. president, which major media had chosen to ignore. Since these candidates tended to be highly critical of U.S. foreign and domestic policy, broadcasting alternative views would undermine popular support for them.

TFD (talk) 11:35, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

That is not what the cited sources say. Part of the reason RT is a propaganda outlet is that it has a history of publishing conspiracy theories (7 citations), as well as false or fabricated information. For example, "Kremlin-controlled news sources Russia Today (RT) and Sputnik reported that Macron was secretly gay, and that he was backed by a 'very rich gay lobby'". Reliable sources, including some U.S. sources and major media sources, ignored those types of "stories and opinions" because reputable sources tend to avoid publishing questionable content like that.Your "93 times" count is highly misleading, since most of those instances of the word propaganda are in the citations. Since reliable sources provide frequent and detailed coverage on RT's status as a propaganda outlet, the article gives this aspect of RT its due weight. The RT (TV network) § Propaganda and related issues section does "explain what they mean by this and provide their arguments". — Newslinger talk 12:04, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Crosstalk

Did RT cancel Crosstalk? 73.230.160.102 (talk) 13:36, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

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