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		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		"happy that we finally got a 'self-described neutral observer'" - that made me laugh. That was a positive add. Rockypedia (talk) 00:02, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

you might want to see this

. 😍Doug Weller talk 12:48, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

A beer for you!

I was wondering why I saw you clearing your talk page. Drmies (talk) 04:49, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Gandy orders a second round. Cheers to one of our best! Gandydancer (talk) 15:21, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

*hic* here's another :) sláinte! ——SerialNumber54129 15:27, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

	A Resilient Barnstar
	I’m very sorry to see the harassment you have faced. Stay strong Volunteer Marek! starship.paint (talk) 16:00, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

A kitten in the hopes that it improves you evening.

HighInBC 12:23, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

File:Regular.JPG listed for discussion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Regular.JPG, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 18:28, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

FYI

Please note that I (favorably) mentioned one of your contributions here. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:23, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Man, all those old school people of days long past. Volunteer Marek 19:35, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I filled a complaint about you for Harassing me

hi there, I left a complaint about you for continuously falsely attributing me as sock and calling my account as SPA such attitudes discourages new editors to join wikipedia

link to complaint

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=1104659258 Mrboondocks (talk) 05:52, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Lol. Volunteer Marek 11:47, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Keep Cool!

Hi! I just want to point out that you seem to have lost your cool in recent editing on Talk:Aleksandr_Dugin ]. You forgot to sign several comments, were very negative about other editors, and seemed unable to read what other editors have written. Perhaps you need a break? Best wishes,♥ L'Origine du monde ♥ 00:09, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Destructive editing with false edit summary

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Fascism&type=revision&diff=1106116140&oldid=1106115388 In this edit you reinstated text claiming that "sources are right there". There is no valid source for this text you reinstated -- According to Alexander J. Motyl, an American historian and political scientist, Russian fascism has the following characteristics:

• An undemocratic political system, different from both traditional authoritarianism and totalitarianism;
• Statism and hypernationalism;
• A hypermasculine cult of the supreme leader (emphasis on his courage, militancy and physical prowess);
• General popular support for the regime and its leader..

Please explain your actions.♥ L'Origine du monde ♥  07:58, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Please refrain from calling other editors' good faithed edits "destructive". I added another source, which is accessible via the source already given. Volunteer Marek 08:02, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

You added annother source, but it didn't support the text you added. The source clearly says that Russia isn't fascist.♥ L'Origine du monde ♥ 11:39, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Fascism

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.. Slatersteven (talk) 09:22, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Slater, your "restore old version" edit mostly just removed source that was added to an unsourced text (which btw, is not a revert). Can you please be bothered to at least check what it is you're reverting? Volunteer Marek 12:18, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

I decided to not take sides in who was right. I left you a waring in the name,e of fairness, as there was a lot of reverting going on. So (again) I was trying to not take sides). Slatersteven (talk) 14:54, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

August 2022

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Timeline of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine , you may be blocked from editing. WikiHannibal (talk) 16:02, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. Constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours to the page Timeline of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine has an edit summary that appears to be inadequate, inaccurate, or inappropriate. The summaries are helpful to people browsing an article's history, so it is important that you use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did. Feel free to use the sandbox to make test edits. "lol" isn't an appropriate edit summary. Also the total amount of summaries you fill in is very low. Thank you. AdrianHObradors (talk) 16:47, 23 August 2022 (UTC); edited template AdrianHObradors (talk) 16:59, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

@AdrianHObradors you’re welcoming this almost 20-year-old user to Misplaced Pages? Recommendation to practice at sand-box page? How can your notification be taken seriously? 🧐 - GizzyCatBella🍁 16:57, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

GizzyCatBella, you're right, edited. — AdrianHObradors (talk) 17:01, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

User:WikiHannibal, I didn't add any "unsourced or poorly sourced content" as your spurious templating suggests, not to mention that you're trying to intimidate someone over a possible content disagreement. Don't do it again. Thanks. Volunteer Marek 20:48, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Bare URLs

Hi Volunteer Marek, please try not to add references as WP:BAREURLS, as you did here, as it can lead to WP:LINKROT. Thanks — AdrianHObradors (talk) 22:22, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

can you please stop spamming my talk page? Thanks. Volunteer Marek 06:43, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

You might want to see this

. Doug Weller talk 12:50, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of NAFO (group)

Hello! Your submission of NAFO (group) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Pbritti (talk) 06:09, 2 September 2022 (UTC) ~ Pbritti (talk) 06:09, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Request to administrators

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Marvoir (talk) 18:01, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Crimea Sovereignty Status

Please stop visiting all of the wikipedia pages of cities in Crimea, changing their country status to solely Ukraine, and reverting it back to that version when someone undoes it. It is not "Russian Irredentism" to admit that Crimea has been annexed by Russia and is therefore the de facto owner. Ukraine is mostly internationally recognized as the owner, yes. This is called de jure. The de facto owner is Russia. De facto means "in fact, whether by right or not" according to Oxford Languages. Norge17maii (talk) 17:48, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

No, this whole “de jure” and “de facto” terminology is just something that certain accounts on Misplaced Pages. made up. It’s textbook original research. The proper term, and the one used by sources , is “occupation”. Volunteer Marek 17:52, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Then how do you differ territories that are temporarily occupied (such as in WW2 when germany occupied france) with territories that are annexed? (like Alsace-Lorraine, which was made a proper part of the reich). You can not conflate the two. These are very real words. Why do you think they're used across wikipedia?

Please read:

https://en.wikipedia.org/De_facto

https://en.wikipedia.org/De_jure Norge17maii (talk) 17:57, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages pages are not reliable sources. You can always say that Russia or whoever tried to illegally annex some territory in the text if you want. Please stop removing the fact that these cities are in Ukraine. That’s some really obnoxious POV pushing there. Volunteer Marek 17:59, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Do you realise the site you're on right now? If wikipedia is so unreliable, then why are you fighting so hard for a wikipedia article? Let me ask you a question. If you flew right now to Sevastopol, Crimea, and committed a crime, would you be arrested by Ukrainian or Russian Police? The territory is controlled by Russia whether you want to believe it or not. The city is by international law in Ukraine, yes, but de facto it is in Russia. Some other links about de facto and de jure that aren't wikipedia:

De facto:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/de-facto

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/de-facto

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/de-facto

De jure:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/de%20facto

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/de-jure Norge17maii (talk) 18:08, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

As well, nobody is "removing" that they are in Ukraine. If you took up the time to see what de jure meant, you would know that I was saying that Crimea is legally in Ukraine. Ukranian territory, illegally annexed by Russia. Norge17maii (talk) 18:10, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

The fact that Misplaced Pages articles aren't reliable sources for other Misplaced Pages articles is kind of Misplaced Pages 101. Nobody's disputing that the territory is occupied by Russia. What I'm asking for is sources which say it's "de facto Russia" which is a unsourced POV claim.

And yes I know what "de jure" and "de facto" means (usually people who use these words are trying to sound smarter than they are). What I need to see is sources which describe Crimea in these terms. Volunteer Marek 18:11, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

nobody is "removing" that they are in Ukraine Yeah except for the part where you tried to pretend other Ukrainian towns were "in Russia", like you did here, so sorry if I don't quite buy your "but I acknowledge it's internationally recognized in Ukraine I'm just going to make it say it's de facto in Russia" special pleading. Volunteer Marek 18:16, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Were you born before 2014? If so, you would have potentially witnessed with your own eyes the Crimean peninsula being annexed by the Russian Federation. And why would you insinuate I'm trying to "act smart"? Could you give me more words to use that mean the same things as de facto and de jure? https://en.wikipedia.org/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation

https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/The-crisis-in-Crimea-and-eastern-Ukraine

This is a good source

https://www.unian.info/world/belarus-opposition-crimea-de-jure-part-of-ukraine-but-de-facto-part-of-russia-11131832.html Norge17maii (talk) 18:15, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Were you born before 2014? Please refrain from making personal attacks. I'm not going to tolerate this kind of behavior on my talk page.

As for your sources, the unian source explicitly states that this "de jure/de facto" bullshit is... wait for it wait for it wait for it... the official position of Alexander Lukashenko. Are you seriously arguing that Misplaced Pages should present the opinion of the Belarusian dictator as fact? This is actually another good reason to remove this garbage. Volunteer Marek 18:19, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

It's talking about his opposition. If you would have read the source you would have known that. Opposition means someone opposed to someone. In this case, the people making that claim are opposition members. They oppose the oppressive Belarusian government, and therefore Lukashenko. Please read the sources I generously find for you in order to support your learning. Norge17maii (talk) 18:24, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

The britannica source does not even use the terms "de facto" and "de jure" so I'm not sure what you're trying to pull here. Volunteer Marek 18:20, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

It was for you to learn more about the topic. Norge17maii (talk) 18:26, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Look. I'm going to spell this out for you because evidently you still don't get it. De facto, a well known and used term, means control. That's all it means. When we say something is de facto controlled by Russia, that means it is controlled by Russia. Nothing more, nothing less. It does not mean that the territory is rightfully Russian, nor does it mean that it is not rightfully Ukranian. If i was a Russian nationalist, I would claim that the territory was de jure Russian, meaning Russia has a legal right to the land. The fact of the matter is, the Crimean peninsula has been controlled or de facto Russia for 8 years. No matter your opinion on this subject, it is known by everyone that Crimea is controlled by Russia. If you don't believe me you can look it up. That's the end of it. Norge17maii (talk) 18:21, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

You sure it means "nothing less nothing more", because

Yet again, you've failed to read. I marked the control as Russian. This means russia has control over the region. I was not changing the country. Please make an effort to actually read things before you attack me. Norge17maii (talk) 18:26, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

1. Мотиль , Олександр (8 March 2022). Війни творять нації, а народні війни творять непереможні нації. Олександр Мотиль — Локальна історія. localhistory.org.ua (in Ukrainian). Archived from the original on 25 April 2022. Retrieved 14 March 2022.