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::The above claim is false. Sadly, MicroSupporter seems incapable of understanding the difference between notability and neutrality, and given this lack of understanding has taken to following me around responding to things I haven't said. ] (]) 19:46, 14 October 2022 (UTC) | ::The above claim is false. Sadly, MicroSupporter seems incapable of understanding the difference between notability and neutrality, and given this lack of understanding has taken to following me around responding to things I haven't said. ] (]) 19:46, 14 October 2022 (UTC) | ||
:::Once again, where did I follow you around to? You replied to something regarding me and then you came here to reply to what I said on this talk page. I replied to something you said on Liberland's AfD since I was already part of the conversation there. You said that micronations should be removed from Misplaced Pages because they lack neutrality. Nothing is stopping you from editing those articles and making them more neutral yourself. Micronations like ] are notable enough to be on Misplaced Pages. Neutrality of the article might need fixing to bring out the fantasy side of things, but it doesn't mean the article should be deleted. ] (]) 19:51, 14 October 2022 (UTC) | :::Once again, where did I follow you around to? You replied to something regarding me and then you came here to reply to what I said on this talk page. I replied to something you said on Liberland's AfD since I was already part of the conversation there. You said that micronations should be removed from Misplaced Pages because they lack neutrality. Nothing is stopping you from editing those articles and making them more neutral yourself. Micronations like ] are notable enough to be on Misplaced Pages. Neutrality of the article might need fixing to bring out the fantasy side of things, but it doesn't mean the article should be deleted. ] (]) 19:51, 14 October 2022 (UTC) | ||
::::No, you halfwit, I didn't say that "micronations should be removed from Misplaced Pages because they lack neutrality". Learn to fucking read. Or fuck off. ] (]) 19:53, 14 October 2022 (UTC) |
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Formatting an AFD
Hello,
A new editor tagged an article for an AFD discussion but didn't format the discussion page correctly. I'm more experienced at closing discussions that setting them up, can anyone format Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Abdul Rashid Dawoodi properly for them? The page was tagged as vandalism but since the article was properly tagged and the editor is putting forth an argument, I think the discussion should proceed. What do you think? Liz 05:47, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- No comment on the merits of the nomination, but I've fixed the discussion page. Hut 8.5 07:51, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
Please complete AFD process for Mobile phone industry in the United States
Someone please complete the article deletion process for this page.
AfD: Nominated for deletion; see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Mobile phone industry in the United States 107.115.33.39 (talk) 22:09, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- I would have thought that someone would do this sooner, but be that as it may, it is now Done. --Finngall 02:12, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
Kate Spade AfD
Can someone else please check out Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Kate Spade? It's an AfD for a page on an individual who easily passes WP:BIO, started by an IP editor w/o an account and all of the delete votes are also IPs. Something seems odd with this one. And is there a reason that AfDs can be created without an account? Doc StrangeLogbook 18:31, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- This has since been taken care of. Doc StrangeLogbook 02:49, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Britannia Pub
Can a confirmed user please complete steps 2 and 3. This article is trivia. The references only contain brief trivial mentions or incidental coverage. There is no depth of coverage in the cited references. I doubt the bar even merits a mention in another article such as one about the geographic area. A Google search for additional information only returns the pubs own web site and sites such as tripadvisor, the bar's facebook page, other promotional sites and business directories. The bar fails WP:ORG in terms of significant coverage. 217.42.50.155 (talk) 22:39, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- I've expanded the article further and would actually ask another editor to remove the tag, which has just sat there for a few days now... ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:34, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
Emdrup Church
Can a confirmed user please complete steps 2 and 3. This is non-notable building. A Google search (in English) for additional information only returns the church's own web site and Misplaced Pages. The church fails WP:NGEO in terms of significant coverage. 217.42.50.155 (talk) 23:20, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- Done Discussion can be found here. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 03:34, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year Award
Can a confirmed user please complete steps 2 and 3. Rationale: This is a non-notable award sourced mostly to EY themselves and an advertorial. A WP:BEFORE search yields plenty of results, just no GNG-qualifying coverage. 2A01:4B00:9D42:6E00:FCE7:AC6D:CFC5:3126 (talk) 19:31, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Done Discussion can be found here. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 19:52, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
RfC which may be of interest
Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee/Requests for comment/Article creation at scale Valereee (talk) 13:57, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Bankleitzahl
Can someone complete the AfD process for Bankleitzahl please? The article claims it is a system for Bank Identifier Codes but it's merely the German word for them. --91.66.203.114 (talk) 20:40, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Done Discussion can be found here. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 03:56, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
NovelAI for AfD
Could someone nominate the article NovelAI for deletion due to lack of notability (severe lack of citations and non-reliable sources throughout) and possible advertising? Thanks. 63.139.68.87 (talk) 19:58, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- I don't know if I can endorse this AfD. There seems to be some coverage for it at least in Japanese sources to meet the threshhold of WP:GNG. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 03:52, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
- It appears that the primary contributor of the article seems to have some sort of connection with the subject, and has already been under fire in the talk page of the Stable Diffusion article for excessive original research. At the very least, there seems to be quite a bit of WP:OR and likely WP:COI going on here. 63.139.68.87 (talk) 14:38, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
- There indeed seems to be something strange going on the with the article: less than 24 hours after the AfD notice was posted (and the appropriate post made in the talk page of the article, as detailed in WP:AFDHOWTO), the primary contributor of the article has already deleted both Advert and AfD notices. If someone could make note of this (if they choose to create the nomination on my behalf), it would be much appreciated. 63.139.68.87 (talk) 15:49, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Deletion of the article Rinshad Reera
The page doesn't meet the notability guide lines of Misplaced Pages Lillyshang (talk) 11:50, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
- AfD nomination was malformed--I have fixed it. See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Rinshad Reera. --Finngall 17:05, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Javad Safaei
This AfD seems to have been over-run with WP:SPAs and I am quite unsure what the best procedure is to deal with this, especially as the auto-confirmed protection is quite easily being bypassed by these accounts making >10 meaningless edits prior to participation. Would it be best to raise a WP:SPI on all of them that show as newly registered? Bungle 21:17, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- fyi Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Khabat4545 may be relevant. Beccaynr (talk) 21:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, starting an SPI would be a good place to start. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 22:51, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
Canon Communicator
I would like help starting an RfD discussion for Canon Communicator, if anybody has a moment. 184.67.135.194 (talk) 23:21, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Verdis and Liberland
Can someone please review and complete the process for the AfD nomations for these two requests (or bump for better consensus?)? Both requests are by one nominator. Verdis has a lot of chit-chat and some requests to Speedy keep and Liberland has a lot of keep and strong keep with very few saying delete. There has been almost no progress in discussing these AfD's in the past few days and they have been extremely quiet. MicroSupporter (talk) 18:51, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- Neither of these qualify as a speedy keep, which has very limited applications and isn't just closing a discussion quickly due to overwhelming consensus. Regardless, there's been enough discussion on both AfDs that an early close isn't warranted. Let the process play out. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 19:51, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- I understand. My apologies. Could both articles potentially be bumped for a better consensus before the AfD is completed? MicroSupporter (talk) 19:52, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
...and while you are at it, review the activities of a few single-purpose accounts active on the AfDs... AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:55, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- would like to note that this user has had a go at numerous people on numerous pages regarding the existence of micronations overall and saying that micronations should be deleted for violating Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view when everyone already knows they are either ambitious or fantasy states. just because i only really edit micronations, occupied territories, royals and occasional gnome edits doesnt mean my account is 'single-purpose' btw. MicroSupporter (talk) 19:18, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- The above claim is false. Sadly, MicroSupporter seems incapable of understanding the difference between notability and neutrality, and given this lack of understanding has taken to following me around responding to things I haven't said. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:46, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- Once again, where did I follow you around to? You replied to something regarding me and then you came here to reply to what I said on this talk page. I replied to something you said on Liberland's AfD since I was already part of the conversation there. You said that micronations should be removed from Misplaced Pages because they lack neutrality. Nothing is stopping you from editing those articles and making them more neutral yourself. Micronations like Liberland are notable enough to be on Misplaced Pages. Neutrality of the article might need fixing to bring out the fantasy side of things, but it doesn't mean the article should be deleted. MicroSupporter (talk) 19:51, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- No, you halfwit, I didn't say that "micronations should be removed from Misplaced Pages because they lack neutrality". Learn to fucking read. Or fuck off. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:53, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- Once again, where did I follow you around to? You replied to something regarding me and then you came here to reply to what I said on this talk page. I replied to something you said on Liberland's AfD since I was already part of the conversation there. You said that micronations should be removed from Misplaced Pages because they lack neutrality. Nothing is stopping you from editing those articles and making them more neutral yourself. Micronations like Liberland are notable enough to be on Misplaced Pages. Neutrality of the article might need fixing to bring out the fantasy side of things, but it doesn't mean the article should be deleted. MicroSupporter (talk) 19:51, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- The above claim is false. Sadly, MicroSupporter seems incapable of understanding the difference between notability and neutrality, and given this lack of understanding has taken to following me around responding to things I haven't said. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:46, 14 October 2022 (UTC)