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== Wording of ineffectiveness of homeopathy ==

In the first paragraph, there is a sentence that says "Homeopathic remedies are typically biochemically inert, and have no effect on any known disease". This seems slightly misleading, as homeopathic remedies '''can''' have positive effects on diseases, just not more than a placebo would. I think a more technically correct sentence there would be something like "Homeopathic remedies are typically biochemically inert, and have no effect on any known disease when compared to a placebo". Thoughts? ] (]) 20:59, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
:No. Changes seen in the placebo arm of a trial are not necessarily caused by the placebo effect, but are mostly just down to the natural course of the disease; what would happen if no treatment is given. This is why they are generally referred to as “nonspecific”. And the placebo effect itself is the result of the perception that a treatment has been received, not specific to the actual treatment. If they have no effect over placebo, then the remedies themselves have no effect. “No more effective than placebo” does not mean “has a placebo effect”. ] (]) 06:45, 8 September 2022 (UTC)


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Not going anywhere good. Bon courage (talk) 13:33, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

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This article is an attack piece and unfit for an encyclopedia like Misplaced Pages. Some editors seem to have cherry picked the poor studies to attack Homeopathy. This and this show it is effective if its principles (of similarity and minimum dose) are followed.- 2401:4900:22E3:79B:2846:6E92:FD8D:98F1 (talk) 01:31, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Many celebrities, including King Charles III take Homeopathy but this article doesn't mention that. Why?-2401:4900:22E3:79B:2846:6E92:FD8D:98F1 (talk) 01:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:44, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Please remove this: "All relevant scientific knowledge about physics, chemistry, biochemistry and biology contradicts homeopathy. Homeopathic remedies are typically biochemically inert, and have no effect on any known disease. Its theory of disease, centered around principles Hahnemann termed miasms, is inconsistent with subsequent identification of viruses and bacteria as causes of disease. Clinical trials have been conducted and generally demonstrated no objective effect from homeopathic preparations.: 206  The fundamental implausibility of homeopathy as well as a lack of demonstrable effectiveness has led to it being characterized within the scientific and medical communities as quackery and fraud." from the lead.-2401:4900:22E3:79B:E170:F9E3:C3D8:A847 (talk) 04:35, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Why? - Roxy the dog 05:39, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Many celebrities What is encyclopedic about that? --Hob Gadling (talk) 06:45, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
The section you seek to remove has about 15 references. You haven't given any valid reason for trying to remove any of it.--Dmol (talk) 09:26, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Dmol, I am asking to remove those sentences because it is attacking the system which is not how an encyclopaedia should be (an encyclopaedia should just state what something is, without attacking it).-2401:4900:33BC:5557:8C20:A0D6:D6E2:1FE4 (talk) 13:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
It's not attacking it, it's describing it. --McSly (talk) 13:27, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Also, all of this is covered by the FAQ at the top of this page. --McSly (talk) 13:28, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
This is about celebrities who used it. Shouldn't they be mentioned?-2401:4900:33BC:5557:8C20:A0D6:D6E2:1FE4 (talk) 13:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
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Please add first name

In the lead section, can someone add "Samuel" in front of "Hahnemann" in this sentence:

"Its theory of disease, centered around principles ____ Hahnemann termed"

Its the first time he is mentioned in the article and should be specifically identified.

Thank you! 67.220.13.96 (talk) 23:35, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Reordered it so Hahnemann is mentioned earlier with his full name and link. Thanks for flagging. Aircorn (talk) 05:27, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Basic Research duckweed/ arsenic

In Switzerland https://de.wikipedia.org/Wasserlinsen#/media/Datei:LemnaMinor.jpg

in german : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_van-G2HXs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7M-qcP_pDY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:D2:2F2F:51E0:5108:99FD:2AC5:8866 (talk) 17:33, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

A photo of duckweed isn't 'research'. And YouTube videos aren't even remotely acceptable as sources in regards to any claims regarding medical efficacy. See Misplaced Pages:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) for what would be required. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:43, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
This study evaluated the effects with arsenic-stressed duckweed (Lemna gibba L.). The test substances were applied and compared with controls (unsuccussed and succussed water) regarding their influence on the plant's growth rate. Duckweed was stressed with arsenic. Afterwards, plants grew in either potentized substances or water controls All experiments were randomized and blinded.

--2003:D2:2F2F:51E0:78C7:CDC2:F523:E0AE (talk) 19:40, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

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