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PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds: Battlegrounds

PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds (PUBG) apparently rebranded itself PUBG: Battlegrounds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a01:cb00:8ed:3200:1d24:941e:5829:2b11 (talk) 14:56, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Cited from this source: PUBG is now officially PUBG: Battlegrounds for some reason Blake Gripling (talk) 03:25, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Additional example proposal: RAT test

Additional example proposal: •RAT test (rapid antigen test test)

citation: 103.139.104.233 (talk) 09:16, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea to me too. --184.63.205.119 (talk) 01:15, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Jeb Bush

“Jeb” is an acronym for John Ellis Bush. Thus, “Jeb Bush” is short for John Ellis Bush Bush. 2600:1700:37A9:4000:2C15:BBD6:EF78:A78C (talk) 16:12, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

proposal for additional example: PDF format

Arguable one of the most frequent examples would be

• PDF format

(obviously expanding to Portable Document Format format). — MFH:Talk 10:25, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

DC Comics

'Detective Comics' is the company name, comic books is a product they sell. If the company Ford put out a car model called the Ford then it would be the Ford Ford, and not redundant as that would be make and model. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.112.217.211 (talk) 20:26, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

This has all been covered already in previous discussions, see Talk:RAS syndrome/Archive 4#DC Comics. - wolf 21:03, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

It wasn't covered, it was ignored. It's not a redundant acronym. There are tons of actual RASes that can be used as examples. This isn't one, at all.

'Detective Comics' = company

comic books = product they sell

Ergo 'DC comics' is not redundant. 97.112.217.211 (talk) 23:42, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

That's your opinion. We don't base content on personal opinions, we base it on sources. That was covrered in the previous discussion. I suggest you read it again, but also, I strongly suggest you read the guidelines that have been cited for you on your talk page, in response to your editing. Then, when your block expires, if you still wish to pursue the changes you were trying to make, here and elsewhere, you can discuss them collaboratively on their respectlive talk pages first. - wolf 23:58, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

No, it's not a matter of opinion. It's a fact by the definition of 'redundant'

((of words or data) able to be omitted without loss of meaning or function.

"our peculiar affection for redundant phrases")

If you omit 'comics' from 'DC comics' then all you have is the name of a company that puts out dozens of products. the 'comics' bit is necessary information.

Again, there are dozens of undisputed RASes, just use one of those.

If you need a source, here's my source for the definition of 'redundant'

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/redundant

So, it is definitively NOT an RAS 97.112.217.211 (talk) 03:34, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Again, this is all your opinion, except the part where you claim Merriam-Webster as a source. But if you read the previous discussion, you'd see I also quoted M-W, along with several other actual sources. Look, I get it... you don't want DC Comics listed as an example, but it is, it has been for some time now, and it's supported by sourcing and consensus. Perhaps it's time to to let this go. - wolf 04:15, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

It was never a matter of opinion. It is not a redundant acronym, by definition of redundant. It's not supported by sourcing and support by consensus is a terrible way to build a library of knowledge.

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I'll 'let it go' when right finally prevails instead of a bunch of petulant children who just want their way because "B-but that's just the way it's always been". 97.112.217.211 (talk) 05:02, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Are you saying mistakes that have slipped by for years should get to stay, just because of legacy? That, again, is a horrible way to compend a library of knowledge. 97.112.217.211 (talk) 05:07, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

So which part of it not being a redundant acronym are you not understanding? 97.112.217.211 (talk) 12:25, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Someone even got the point in non-examples

"Similarly, "OPEC countries" are two or more member states of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, whereas "OPEC" by itself denotes the overall organization." 97.112.217.211 (talk) 12:27, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

DC = the company

comics = a product they put out

DC comics = the company and a product they put out. It's not redundant because 'DC comics' differentiates from other products they put out. 97.112.217.211 (talk) 12:28, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Ok well if you're just going to ignore my points, I'm going to go back to editing the page based on the fact that I'm correct. 97.112.217.211 (talk) 13:57, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

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