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info box and awards content

Why is there no info box and awards content? User:The One I Left

For no infobox, see Talk:Rod Steiger/Archive 1, and the awards are in a separate article, - too many ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Gerda Arendt I may have missed it, but I didn't see an awards article linked to this one. -User:The One I Left

Now that I checked I also don't see it. It would of course be linked from an infobox if their was one ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Marnette, you mentioned an awards article in the edit summary, but the search functions only returns "on stage ...". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

My mistake - apologies. Rather than put all of the awards here I would suggest creating an awards article from scratch and linking to it from this one. MarnetteD|Talk 18:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

I agree with MarnetteD (I'm a poet, and I didn't even know it). Cassianto 18:46, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

and your feet don't show it because they are longfellows - oof now I'm 5 years old again :-) I should have mentioned that - per Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Film#Accolades - make sure to only mention awards that have an article on Misplaced Pages. Also make sure to add references and please do not use IMDb as they have been known to include awards that never existed. MarnetteD|Talk 19:01, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Cassianto, User:Gerda Arendt, Look at the discussion board and my talk page, I was asked to create the awards article for this page. Please revert back the changes that were made. User:The One I Left

The One I Left we asked you to create the awards article and link to it from this page. We didn't ask for an awards table here and at the new article. I have restored the link to the awards article but IMO we don't need the same info at two different places. MarnetteD|Talk 05:20, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Cassianto It's common practice among many actors pages to have the academy award nominations listed on the page for readers to easily see without having to got to the awards articles, see Robert De Niro, Leonardo DiCaprio. User:The One I Left

(waking up to this:) How about just having the awards separate, with just the link, same as in this article for "on stage ...", polish them, and THEN see if any should go in the biography, and if yes what? ... and how about staying factual? (The sentence "you need to relax", telling me what to do, would upset me, for example). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't really care what your talk page says, or the "discussion board" (whatever that is), or who has asked you, you cannot add what you like to a featured article without gaining a consensus first. The current consensus is the FA version which carried no awards table. Not only that, but the awards table you are trying to insert is both vague (what awards are they?), scant (he won more than what the table suggests - where do you draw the line before you end up with a replication of the awards article) and the sources that you are using, are they reliable? Cassianto 05:25, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Cassianto Woah you need to relax, I don't believe I added anything out of the ordinary or objectionable except a small table as a sample of the academy awards he was nominated for. I believe I stated that in the reverted edits. It's a small and common addition I didn't know you'd object to it so adamantly. The reader can obviously surmise he won more awards hence, the added link to the awards article. The One I Left (talk) 05:35, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't need to relax. You, on the other hand, need to listen to those advising you that the table you've tried inserting is against the current consensus. Like I've already said, if you added your preferred awards, where do you draw the line when someone else comes along to add theirs? This could potentially go on until eventually everyone has added the awards that they think should be included and we end up with a direct copy from the awards article on this one. No, leave the table off please. Thanks. Cassianto 06:24, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Cassianto I'm sorry you're upset, but the table wasn't against current consensus that i could see other that your objection which honestly doesn't make sense. It is common and not completely unfounded practice, since its the highest honor in his profession and the highest award he received so it makes sense to highlight it on his page as well as a separate awards article. People wouldn't add to it because there is a added link to a separate awards page so I don't understand your confusion, but I'll relent since you're so upset about this.The One I Left (talk) 07:03, 30 May 2020 (UTC)User:The One I Left

Firstly, I'm not upset in the least. It was against consensus (see the link above in one of my posts) as a number of editors - me not included - considered the article to be of FA quality without a table being in place. Therefore, the onus is on you to gain another consensus if you want this table inserted. Secondly, if other people who are wanting to add their preferred awards have to adhere to the fact there's a separate awards article, then why can't you with the ones you're trying to add? Lastly, you cannot keep claiming that simply because other articles have something, then this must too. It's this kind of absurd uniform approach that causes the infobox issues. Cassianto 07:13, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The One I Left please see WP:OTHERSTUFF Just because some article are done a certain way does not mean that they all do. This applies even more in the case of a FA. Also please learn to sign you talk page posts usunf 4 tildes ~~~~ so that the timestamp indicating when you made your post will be attached to the post. MarnetteD|Talk 05:29, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Infobox 2

I'm not sure if consensus of the infobox removal of Steiger is a good one. Feature articles of it doesn't mean you remove the infobox. Doesn't really matter if feature articles means you should remove infoboxes. BattleshipMan (talk) 23:39, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

RfC on whether or not Rod Steiger should have an infobox

Should the article on Rod Steiger include an infobox? 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 00:55, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Had there been any recent discussion on this that would necessitate an RFC? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:25, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

There was an RfC on this like 10 years ago. I added an infobox to the article the other day, not knowing the history, and was reverted and told the matter would need to go to RfC again. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 02:39, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

• Status quo, I don't see any arguments or explanations about how an infobox would improve the article. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:03, 24 April 2022 (UTC) (Summoned by bot)
• Yes - what a strange question; of course it should have an infobox. I read through some of the previous discussions and I don't understand any of it. 99% of articles about actors contain an infobox; what's special about Rod Steiger? Korny O'Near (talk) 01:52, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
• Yes I already think it's weird that composers don't have infoboxes so I can't see any reasonable case for Steiger not to have one. Also worth noting that Peter Sellers had this same debate and the talk page consensus was to include an infobox. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 01:55, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
• Voting Yes as OP. This is a long article with a relatively long lead. I think an infobox would be useful to readers. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 09:56, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
• Soft yes. Inboxes are generally useful to readers, but this particular article isn't especially in want of one.Charlie A. (talk) 13:52, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
• No, or not the one which was added which was useless: cemetery, 5 wives & children, but no films or awards! Johnbod (talk) 02:56, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Yes. All of his acting peers, equals, etc. I think of have info boxes. No real reason he should not. Besides, to people unfamiliar with him or wikipedia in general, makes the page look unusual and potentially as if he is not notable given the absence of the info box. La rodman (talk) 04:37, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Yes Extremely useful for casual readers to see key information at a glance. Actually makes the article look more professional amd official. This is just common sense at this point.--JOJ 10:19, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

You are there

Hello, Rod Steiger is not the actor who played the role of Rudolf Hess, in the serie You are There (series). It's Peter Cushing. CapsuleX (talk) 15:05, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Here is the most ancient source i found that probably started the lie: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1991-05-12-9102120281-story.htmlCapsuleX (talk) 15:13, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

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