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The story of the '''Two Wolves''' is a popular legend of unknown origin, sometimes attributed to the ]<ref name="firstpeople.us">{{cite web|url=http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/TwoWolves-Cherokee.html |title=Cherokee Legend - Two Wolves |publisher=Firstpeople.us |access-date=2016-02-09}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.sapphyr.net/natam/two-wolves.htm |title=Two Wolves - A Cherokee Parable : Pearls Of Wisdom |publisher=Sapphyr.net |access-date=2016-02-09}}</ref> or ].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.native-languages.org/legends-wolf.htm |title=Native American Indian Wolf Legends, Meaning and Symbolism from the Myths of Many Tribes|publisher=Native-languages.org |access-date=2016-02-09 }}</ref> This legend, also known as "Which one do you feed",<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nativeamericanembassy.net/www.lenni-lenape.com/www/html/LenapeArchives/LenapeSet-01/feedwich.html |title=Which One Do You Feed? |publisher=Nativeamericanembassy.net |access-date=2016-02-09}}</ref> "Grandfather Tells",<ref name="firstpeople.us"/> "The Wolves Within",<ref name="firstpeople.us"/> and "Tale Of Two Wolves",<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nanticokeindians.org/page/tale-of-two-wolves|title=Tale of Two Wolves - Nanticoke Indian Association|publisher=Nanticokeindians.org|access-date=2016-02-09}}</ref> is a story of a grandfather using a metaphor of two ] fighting within him to explain his inner conflicts to his grandson. When his grandson asks which wolf wins, the grandfather answers whichever he chooses to feed is the one that wins. Many variations of the story exist: replacing wolves with dogs, changing the nature of the conflict, and so on. The story of the '''Two Wolves''' is a popular legend, usually erroneously claimed to be ], or of other, vague, ] origins. The earliest sources seem to all indicate it is a Christian parable, into which ] have been included as characters, but penned by non-Indigenous writers. The legend is a story of a grandfather or elder using a metaphor of two ] fighting within him to explain inner conflicts to his grandson, or other young person. When the young person asks which wolf wins, the grandfather answers "whichever one you feed". While many variations of the story exist: replacing wolves with dogs, or changing the nature of the conflict, the usual conflict uses imagery of white vs black and good vs evil. With the usually-falsified origin stories that surround it, it is generally considered to be ].


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An early variation of this story was published in ''The Daily Republican'', Monongahela, Pennsylvania, November 16, 1962. William J. Turner Jr. prefaced a meditation on "two natures within" () with this illustration: "A man traveling through the mountains came upon an old mountaineer who had two dogs. Both dogs were the same size, and they fought continually. The visitor asked the mountaineer which dog usually won. The old fellow studied for a moment, spat over the fence, and said, 'The one I feeds the most.'"<ref>{{cite news |last1=Turner |first1=William J., Jr. |title=Feeding Our Souls |url=https://www.newspapers.com/clip/106998481/the-one-i-feeds/ |access-date=August 5, 2022 |work=The Daily Republican |issue=118:124, p. 9 |publisher=Monongahela Publishing Co. |date=November 16, 1962}}</ref> An early variation of this story was published in ''The Daily Republican'', Monongahela, Pennsylvania, November 16, 1962. William J. Turner Jr. prefaced a meditation on "two natures within" () with this illustration: "A man traveling through the mountains came upon an old mountaineer who had two dogs. Both dogs were the same size, and they fought continually. The visitor asked the mountaineer which dog usually won. The old fellow studied for a moment, spat over the fence, and said, 'The one I feeds the most.'"<ref>{{cite news |last1=Turner |first1=William J., Jr. |title=Feeding Our Souls |url=https://www.newspapers.com/clip/106998481/the-one-i-feeds/ |access-date=August 5, 2022 |work=The Daily Republican |issue=118:124, p. 9 |publisher=Monongahela Publishing Co. |date=November 16, 1962}}</ref>

A version of this story was first published in 1965, then in 1978 by the Reverend ] in his book ''The Holy Spirit: Activating God's Power in Your Life'',<ref>{{Cite book|last=Graham|first=Billy|url=https://www.worldcat.org/oclc/44189410|title=The Holy Spirit|date=1988|publisher=Word Pub|isbn=0-8499-4213-6|location=Nashville|oclc=44189410}}</ref> which attributed the legend to "an Eskimo fisherman," about an ] with a black dog and a white dog that he used for ] by only feeding the one he wanted to win.<ref>{{cite book|last=Graham|first=Billy|chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/holyspiritactiva00grah/page/92|title=The Holy Spirit: Activating God's Power in Your Life|date=1978|publisher=W Publishing Group|isbn=978-0849900051|page=92|chapter=The Christian's Inner Struggle|quote=AN ESKIMO FISHERMAN came to town every Saturday afternoon. He always brought his two dogs with him. One was white and the other was black. He had taught them to fight on command. Every Saturday afternoon in the town square the people would gather and these two dogs would fight and the fisherman would take bets. On one Saturday the black dog would win; another Saturday, the white dog would win – but the fisherman always won! His friends began to ask him how he did it. He said, “I starve one and feed the other. The one I feed always wins because he is stronger.”|chapter-url-access=registration}}</ref>


The Baptist pastor John R. Bisagno in ''The Power of Positive Praying'' (Xulon Press, 1965) gave a version in which a missionary is told by a ] convert named Joe that he has a black dog and a white dog always fighting inside him, and that the dog which Joe feeds the most will win.<ref>{{cite book|last=Bisagno|first=John|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=-d5l0nMuTZIC&q=%E2%80%9CAn+old+missionary+returned+to+the+home+of+a+convert+among+the+Mohave+Indians.+%22&pg=PA55|title=The Power of Positive Praying|date=1965|publisher=Xulon Press|isbn=1-59781-421-0|page=|quote=An old missionary returned to the home of a convert among the Mo Indians. When the missionary asked him how he was doing, old Joe said, ‘Well, it seems that I have a black dog and a white dog inside of me and they are always fighting.’ The missionary asked him, ‘Which one wins?’ and Joe said, ‘The one I feed the most.’}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://poetic-poppy.tumblr.com/post/17650658915/the-history-of-the-two-wolvestwo-dogs-story|title=The History of the 'Two Wolves/Two Dogs" story|work=Tumblr}}</ref> The Baptist pastor John R. Bisagno in ''The Power of Positive Praying'' (Xulon Press, 1965) gave a version in which a missionary is told by a ] convert named Joe that he has a black dog and a white dog always fighting inside him, and that the dog which Joe feeds the most will win.<ref>{{cite book|last=Bisagno|first=John|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=-d5l0nMuTZIC&q=%E2%80%9CAn+old+missionary+returned+to+the+home+of+a+convert+among+the+Mohave+Indians.+%22&pg=PA55|title=The Power of Positive Praying|date=1965|publisher=Xulon Press|isbn=1-59781-421-0|page=|quote=An old missionary returned to the home of a convert among the Mo Indians. When the missionary asked him how he was doing, old Joe said, ‘Well, it seems that I have a black dog and a white dog inside of me and they are always fighting.’ The missionary asked him, ‘Which one wins?’ and Joe said, ‘The one I feed the most.’}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://poetic-poppy.tumblr.com/post/17650658915/the-history-of-the-two-wolvestwo-dogs-story|title=The History of the 'Two Wolves/Two Dogs" story|work=Tumblr}}</ref>
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In ''The Presbyterian Journal'', Volume 34 (1975), George Aiken Taylor writes: "<!-- I wasn't able to get the snippet of text before this part --> two dogs fighting in the soul. 'Which one will win?' asked the convert. 'The one you feed the most,' answered the missionary."<ref>{{Cite book|last=Taylor|first=George Aiken|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=s6XtAAAAMAAJ&q=dogs|title=The Presbyterian Journal|date=1975|publisher=Southern Presbyterian Journal Company|language=en}}</ref> In ''The Presbyterian Journal'', Volume 34 (1975), George Aiken Taylor writes: "<!-- I wasn't able to get the snippet of text before this part --> two dogs fighting in the soul. 'Which one will win?' asked the convert. 'The one you feed the most,' answered the missionary."<ref>{{Cite book|last=Taylor|first=George Aiken|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=s6XtAAAAMAAJ&q=dogs|title=The Presbyterian Journal|date=1975|publisher=Southern Presbyterian Journal Company|language=en}}</ref>

A later variation of this story was published by the Reverend ] in his book ''The Holy Spirit: Activating God's Power in Your Life'',<ref>{{Cite book|last=Graham|first=Billy|url=https://www.worldcat.org/oclc/44189410|title=The Holy Spirit|date=1988|publisher=Word Pub|isbn=0-8499-4213-6|location=Nashville|oclc=44189410}}</ref> which attributed the legend to "an Eskimo fisherman," about an ] with a black dog and a white dog that he used for ] by only feeding the one he wanted to win.<ref>{{cite book|last=Graham|first=Billy|chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/holyspiritactiva00grah/page/92|title=The Holy Spirit: Activating God's Power in Your Life|date=1978|publisher=W Publishing Group|isbn=978-0849900051|page=92|chapter=The Christian's Inner Struggle|quote=AN ESKIMO FISHERMAN came to town every Saturday afternoon. He always brought his two dogs with him. One was white and the other was black. He had taught them to fight on command. Every Saturday afternoon in the town square the people would gather and these two dogs would fight and the fisherman would take bets. On one Saturday the black dog would win; another Saturday, the white dog would win – but the fisherman always won! His friends began to ask him how he did it. He said, “I starve one and feed the other. The one I feed always wins because he is stronger.”|chapter-url-access=registration}}</ref>


The 1998 book ''Experiencing the Soul: Before Birth, During Life, After Death'', by Eliot Rosen, uses the story to conclude the first chapter: "A Native American Elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner: 'Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time.' When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment and replied, 'The one I feed the most.'"<ref>{{Cite book|last=Rosen|first=Eliot Jay|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=_ErwV-th8Y8C|title=Experiencing the Soul: Before Birth, During Life, After Death|date=1998|publisher=Hay House|isbn=978-1-56170-461-3|language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite book|last=Rosen|first=Eliot Jay|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=r1XxfWtmZPkC|title=Experiencing The Soul Before Birth, During Life, After Death|date=2005|publisher=Motilal Banarsidass Publishe|isbn=978-81-208-2768-4|language=en}}</ref><!-- Google Books e-book preview is available of the 2006 Delhi reprint but not the original 1998 edition --> The 1998 book ''Experiencing the Soul: Before Birth, During Life, After Death'', by Eliot Rosen, uses the story to conclude the first chapter: "A Native American Elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner: 'Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time.' When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment and replied, 'The one I feed the most.'"<ref>{{Cite book|last=Rosen|first=Eliot Jay|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=_ErwV-th8Y8C|title=Experiencing the Soul: Before Birth, During Life, After Death|date=1998|publisher=Hay House|isbn=978-1-56170-461-3|language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite book|last=Rosen|first=Eliot Jay|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=r1XxfWtmZPkC|title=Experiencing The Soul Before Birth, During Life, After Death|date=2005|publisher=Motilal Banarsidass Publishe|isbn=978-81-208-2768-4|language=en}}</ref><!-- Google Books e-book preview is available of the 2006 Delhi reprint but not the original 1998 edition -->

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The story of the Two Wolves is a popular legend, usually erroneously claimed to be Cherokee, or of other, vague, Native American origins. The earliest sources seem to all indicate it is a Christian parable, into which Indigenous peoples of the Americas have been included as characters, but penned by non-Indigenous writers. The legend is a story of a grandfather or elder using a metaphor of two wolves fighting within him to explain inner conflicts to his grandson, or other young person. When the young person asks which wolf wins, the grandfather answers "whichever one you feed". While many variations of the story exist: replacing wolves with dogs, or changing the nature of the conflict, the usual conflict uses imagery of white vs black and good vs evil. With the usually-falsified origin stories that surround it, it is generally considered to be fakelore.

In media

The story is quoted and referenced in various forms in media articles.

The story is featured in the 2015 film Tomorrowland. One sample dialog from it:

Casey: "There are two wolves" ... You told me this story my entire life, and now I'm telling you: There are two wolves and they are always fighting. One is darkness and despair, the other is light and hope. Which wolf wins?
Eddie: C'mon, Casey.
Casey: Okay, fine, don't answer.
Eddie: Whichever one you feed.

The 2007 film Pathfinder also includes the story. The character Starfire, an indigenous American, speaks of the two wolves to Ghost, the son of a Viking, who is adopted into a neighboring tribe:

Starfire: "There are two wolves fighting in each man’s heart. One is love, the other is hate."
Ghost: "Which one wins?"
Starfire: "The one you feed the most."

Other examples include:

  • In the television series Luke Cage (Season 2, Episode 2, at time-index 48:06) a pastor tells the story of a "Cherokee Legend", with the metaphor of two wolves fighting, where the boy in the story asks "Which wolf is stronger?" and his grandfather responds: "It's the one you feed."
  • In an issue of the Daredevil comic series, the character Echo encounters Wolverine while on a vision quest. He tells her a version of the Two Wolves story he learned from the Chief, albeit referring to them as dogs. Echo then reveals that her late father was the one who originally told that story to the Chief.
  • In Knightfall (Season One, Episode Four, "He Who Discovers His Own Self, Discovers God) Godfrey tells the story to Landry in a flashback.
  • In the BBC series Death in Paradise DI Humphrey Goodman garbles the story in his final episode as he tries to explain his feelings to the woman he loves.
  • In the television series 12 Monkeys (Season 1, Episode 6, at time-index 29:14) Cole tells Aaron the story as he mentions that Cassie feeds the good wolf.

Likely references

The names and phrases from the following are likely referring to this legend:

Versions with dogs

There are similar stories told by Christian ministers appearing in print prior to the story of the Two Wolves that refer to dogs instead of wolves.

An early variation of this story was published in The Daily Republican, Monongahela, Pennsylvania, November 16, 1962. William J. Turner Jr. prefaced a meditation on "two natures within" (Romans 7:18–19) with this illustration: "A man traveling through the mountains came upon an old mountaineer who had two dogs. Both dogs were the same size, and they fought continually. The visitor asked the mountaineer which dog usually won. The old fellow studied for a moment, spat over the fence, and said, 'The one I feeds the most.'"

A version of this story was first published in 1965, then in 1978 by the Reverend Billy Graham in his book The Holy Spirit: Activating God's Power in Your Life, which attributed the legend to "an Eskimo fisherman," about an Inuk with a black dog and a white dog that he used for match fixing by only feeding the one he wanted to win.

The Baptist pastor John R. Bisagno in The Power of Positive Praying (Xulon Press, 1965) gave a version in which a missionary is told by a Mohave Indian convert named Joe that he has a black dog and a white dog always fighting inside him, and that the dog which Joe feeds the most will win.

In I'm a Good Man, but… (1969), Fritz Ridenour writes: "A supposedly true story from the mission field pretty well sums it up. The missionary was talking to the old Indian about what it was like to be a Christian and the Indian said that being a Christian was like having two dogs inside of him fighting. There was the bad dog (sin) and the good dog (righteousness). 'Which is winning?' asked the missionary. 'The one I feed the most.'"

In How to Win Souls and Influence People for Heaven (1973), George Godfrey recounts a tale where an Indian convert says that in his chest he has a white dog that wants to do good, and a black dog that wants to do bad, which are always fighting with each other. After the missionary asks which one wins, he says that the one that he feeds wins.

In The Presbyterian Journal, Volume 34 (1975), George Aiken Taylor writes: " two dogs fighting in the soul. 'Which one will win?' asked the convert. 'The one you feed the most,' answered the missionary."

The 1998 book Experiencing the Soul: Before Birth, During Life, After Death, by Eliot Rosen, uses the story to conclude the first chapter: "A Native American Elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner: 'Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time.' When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment and replied, 'The one I feed the most.'"

Dog version in media:

  • In the 2003 film The Missing, set in 1885 New Mexico Territory, the following dialogue occurs: "'Inside you are two dogs. One is evil, the other is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time.' 'Which one wins?' 'I don’t know. Whichever one I feed the most.'"
  • "The Dog You Feed", episode 2 of season 7 (2021) of Bosch, the police procedural streaming television series produced by Amazon Studios.

See also

References

  1. "Which wolf are you feeding? - Salisbury Post". Retrieved 9 February 2016.
  2. "Editorial: A message of hope". PostIndependent.com. Archived from the original on 2016-01-26. Retrieved 2016-01-26.
  3. "Do You Feed the Good Wolf or the Bad?". Huffingtonpost.com. 2015-08-27. Retrieved 2016-02-09.
  4. David G. Allan (January 16, 2017). "Which side of ourselves will prevail?". CNN. Retrieved 2020-08-05.
  5. David Edelstein (2015-05-22). "The Future Is Bright In The Time-And-Space Twisting 'Tomorrowland'". NPR. Retrieved 2016-02-09.
  6. "Tomorrowland (film) - Wikiquote". En.wikiquote.org. 2016-01-24. Retrieved 2016-02-09.
  7. Daredevil vol.2. #54.
  8. Vejvoda, Jim (May 17, 2019), John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum Reveals His Real Name, IGN, retrieved 2020-08-05, During his quest to stay alive after being declared excommunicado by the High Table, John seeks assistance from the Russian underworld. They're headquartered at a New York theater showing the ballet "Tale of Two Wolves" (because wolves are canines and everything in this franchise comes back to doggos).
  9. Turner, William J., Jr. (November 16, 1962). "Feeding Our Souls". The Daily Republican. No. 118:124, p. 9. Monongahela Publishing Co. Retrieved August 5, 2022.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  10. Graham, Billy (1988). The Holy Spirit. Nashville: Word Pub. ISBN 0-8499-4213-6. OCLC 44189410.
  11. Graham, Billy (1978). "The Christian's Inner Struggle". The Holy Spirit: Activating God's Power in Your Life. W Publishing Group. p. 92. ISBN 978-0849900051. AN ESKIMO FISHERMAN came to town every Saturday afternoon. He always brought his two dogs with him. One was white and the other was black. He had taught them to fight on command. Every Saturday afternoon in the town square the people would gather and these two dogs would fight and the fisherman would take bets. On one Saturday the black dog would win; another Saturday, the white dog would win – but the fisherman always won! His friends began to ask him how he did it. He said, "I starve one and feed the other. The one I feed always wins because he is stronger."
  12. Bisagno, John (1965). The Power of Positive Praying. Xulon Press. p. 55. ISBN 1-59781-421-0. An old missionary returned to the home of a convert among the Mo Indians. When the missionary asked him how he was doing, old Joe said, 'Well, it seems that I have a black dog and a white dog inside of me and they are always fighting.' The missionary asked him, 'Which one wins?' and Joe said, 'The one I feed the most.'
  13. "The History of the 'Two Wolves/Two Dogs" story". Tumblr.
  14. Ridenour, Fritz (1969). I'm a Good Man, But... Gospel Light Publications. pp. 29–30. ISBN 978-0-8307-0429-3. A supposedly true story from the mission field pretty well sums it up. The missionary was talking to the old Indian about what it was like to be a Christian and the Indian said that being a Christian was like having two dogs inside of him fighting. There was the bad dog (sin) and the good dog (righteousness). 'Which is winning?' asked the missionary. 'The one I feed the most.' There you have it. Which dog are you feeding the most? Many of us seem to keep both dogs quite fat, but hopefully the good dog will eventually win out. Hopefully we will feed the good dog a little more with each passing day and week and year. That's what the mouthful called 'santification' means.
  15. Godfrey, George (1973). How to Win Souls and Influence People for Heaven. Baker Book House. p. 126. ISBN 978-0-8010-3666-8. An Indian who was saved expressed this very well. Pointing to his chest, he said to the missionary, 'Ugh, black dog in here. Black dog want to do bad. White dog in here, too. White dog want to do good. These two dogs fight all the time.' The missionary asked, 'Which dog wins?' He replied, 'Ugh, the one I feed the most.'
  16. Taylor, George Aiken (1975). The Presbyterian Journal. Southern Presbyterian Journal Company.
  17. Rosen, Eliot Jay (1998). Experiencing the Soul: Before Birth, During Life, After Death. Hay House. ISBN 978-1-56170-461-3.
  18. Rosen, Eliot Jay (2005). Experiencing The Soul Before Birth, During Life, After Death. Motilal Banarsidass Publishe. ISBN 978-81-208-2768-4.
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