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The Japanese versions of the character names are incorrect. The Japanese language cannot be correctly transliterated to the names you have given.

Darrien 09:05, 2004 May 16 (UTC)

Since I cannot transliterate Japanese myself I had to rely on second-hand information such as the FAQ mentioned in the article. I used official sources such as the FF VI Grand Finale and the FF VI OSV tracklists in order to confirm that the information was in fact (or at least partially; all tracks are not named after characters) correct.

Masken 10:25, 2004 May 16 (UTC)

Please be careful when using internet sources for information. It is very easy for someone to claim a fact on the internet, when in reality they know nothing of which they speak.

http://www.ffmusic.info/ff6.html seems to have the correct Japanese names. I have reinserted your table with some modifications, though I'm not sure that Locke, Kefka, and to a lesser extent, Gestahl should be present.

Darrien 11:09, 2004 May 16 (UTC)

Character Formats

Do you think we could get a standard format for all the characters? I see that half are formatted one way, and the other half are formatted the other. The only thing that seems to stay constant is the Info Box. user:Grevlek

Magicite summoning description in Game Mechanics.

The current description on the summoning of magicite is incorrect. Although a lot of the game's summons are damage based ones, a lot are not. For example, summoning Fenrir (Moon Dance) endowes your party with blink status, and summoning starlet cures some hp of your party. I'm not sure quite how to word it at the moment to make it more correct, so if someone could change that part, that'd be good.

Bah, I just changed it myself. That's more accurate now. :Krakhan

NPCs and locations

The pages for the NPCs other than Kefka are quite short and unlikely to grow any longer. The same goes for the various locations in the story (Tzen, etc.) It's a bit excessive to have a page on _every_ minor city in the game. I'm tempted to merge them into the main article -- thoughts? jdb ❋ (talk) 04:21, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. -- Antaeus Feldspar 17:29, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

That would make the page even longer. It is already huge, like most of the pages on Japanese games or animes. I'd leave it as it is.Harp Heaven 07:43, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

In that case, maybe we have too much information on the game. (This is a tendancy with WP articles on games---I'm often tempted to keep adding more until it starts to resemble an FAQ rather than an encyclopedia article.) jdb ❋ (talk) 07:19, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

OK, I've started removing the stubbish articles and contracting the rest (e.g., removing the key combinations needed to get Sabin's blitzes, which is not encyclopediadic.) jdb ❋ (talk) 05:00, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The problem with the WP articles on games and anime is that there are a lot of internet-savvy people who want to contribute to the article but not necessarily have anything to contribute with. That's why you see a lot of POV fanboyisms and unnecessarily long descriptions of minor characters and locations. There is very little information on them that you couldn't get from just playing the game. What would be interesting would be the story behind Final Fantasy VI's production, sales figures, stuff like that. Seeing as this requires some actual research on the part of the Misplaced Pages contributors, I doubt we will be seeing them any time soon. I like your changes so far, but I'd recommend making an article called "Locations of Final Fantasy VI" and a similar one for the NPCs. Harp Heaven 09:04, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

An artical "Locations of Final Fantasy VI." That sounds a lot better then what there is now. I think that method should be used. ZeWrestler 14:31 Mar 17, 2005(UTC)

I understand why NPC are being removed, but why are playable characters like strago and cyan being removed from articals list? ZeWrestler 13:00 Mar 18, 2005(UTC)

Primarily because I thought they weren't particularly encyclopedia-worthy. They were entirely game-FAQ material. I think there's a fine line between fancruft and a legitimate article on a video game character (clearly super-well-known characters like Crash Bandicoot and Cloud Strife merit articles, not in the least because of their enormous following and repeated appearances), but I'm not convinced that Cyan and Strago do. My test was: is there anything we can say about this character that was not in the game or manual? (Do they show up in other games? Do they have a significant fan following? In both cases, I thought the answer was no.) If you disagree, rv them -- I thought that if they remained there, they'd just be a magnet for more and more faq-cruft (Sabin's blitzes, a history of Cyan's interactions with the party, etc.). jdb ❋ (talk) 05:31, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hm, User:Trypa has rv'd the redirect of Leo to the FFVI page. Barring objection, I'm going to change it back, because it's just FAQ-like information. jdb ❋ (talk) 23:19, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I object. The General Leo article contains storyline and character information that isn't present in the main article, and would simply expand the article further than it ought to be... as another user suggested above. It is not stub-like, as you've stated; there is enough information present to warrant a seperate article entirely. General Leo, despite being an NPC, has just as much backstory as some playable characters. Besides, it's not detracting from anything to keep the article - the inclusion of a character background page for a somewhat major NPC with a perfectly legitimate story cannot be related to something "FAQ-cruft", as you put it, such as Sabin's blitzes (another legitimate addition, in my opinion, but that's not the issue at hand). --Trypa 05:38, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)

Actually, that is very much the issue at hand. Please see Harp Heaven's comments above on game-articles' inevitable slide into "POV fanboyisms and unnecessarily long descriptions of minor characters and locations." I would like to prevent that from happening here. jdb ❋ (talk) 01:27, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Also note that he is talking about mainly minor characters and locations. General Leo is not exactly minor. Further, I don't see any "POV fanboyisms" or "unnecessarily long descriptions" in play here- just some extra background information on the character (not found in the game or manual, mind you) that is too large to include in the already-huge FFVI page. Remember, it's not detracting from anything to keep a seperate page for this one character. Let the issue die already. --Trypa Party 02:59, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)

Trypa, you're proposing the policy contrary to consensus, so the burden is on you to demonstrate why we should keep material more appropriate for a walkthrough/faq. If you look at the history of the FF Tactics article, you'll find similar edits by myself and PiccoloNamek, trying to keep the fancruft to a reasonable level. This is an encyclopedia, not a comprehensive guide to every character and location in every video game. Now, as to my opinion: I'm not going to address the Leo=minor character issue, which is better left to gamer forums; I'm merely going to assert that no FFVI character, minor or not, really deserves its own page, unless it is significant in some way outside of the game (huge fan following, presence in other games, etc.) A "List of Characters in FFVI" might be acceptable, but a page on every character is excessive. jdb ❋ (talk) 04:32, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

cds

Other CDs

List of other CDs featuring music from the game:

• Final Fantasy 1987-1994
• The Best of Final Fantasy 1994 – 1999: A Musical Tribute
• Final Fantasy Vocal Collections 1 ~ Pray
• Final Fantasy Vocal Collections 2 ~ Love Will Grow
• Final Fantasy N Generation
• The Black Mages
• Fantastic Wave – Final Fantasy Sound Fair – promotion CD
• 20020220 Music From Final Fantasy – music from a concert held in Tokyo on 20 February 2002
• POTION – Relaxin' with Final Fantasy
• Best of Final Fantasy 1994-1999 A Musical Tribute
• Project Majestic Mix Gold Edition
• Project Majestic Mix Silver Edition

I snipped this section because it's extremely obscure -- it might be better off on a Music of Final Fantasy article, if we have such a thing. Otherwise, I'd guess that most people who want any information this specific will go to an FAQ. (Which would probably have a more up-to-date list, anyway.) jdb ❋ (talk) 04:45, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Featured Article

What are the odds of getting this made into a feature article?-- ZeWrestler 00:51 March 15, 2005 (UTC)

Very small. Harp Heaven 12:37, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Multi player mode?

I remember an option in the game that allowed users to divide control of party members between two users. Would that classify as a multiplayer mode for the game? --ZeWrestler 2:05 16 March, 2005

• I thought this was only available when using the Game Genie. Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 04:53, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• • no, if you go to configure i think, you can divide the control of party members. --ZeWrestler 14:28 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)