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Alan M. Steinman

Your edit is not correct. Steinman was a U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps officer, not a U.S. Coast Guard officer. The Coast Guard does not have its own medical corps. The Public Health Service Commissioned Corps assigns officers to fill roles in the Coast Guard, just like a Marine corpsman is not a Marine, he/she part of the Navy. If an officer of the Public Health Service Commissioned Corps is assigned to the Coast Guard, they are required the wear the same service uniform and are subject to the same grooming standards as other Coast Guard officers for uniformity. A Navy corpsman while attached to the Marines is the same thing. Another example is the Chaplain of the United States Coast Guard. He is not a member of the Coast Guard, he is actually a member of the United States Navy, as the Coast Guard does not have a chaplains corps. Just in case you're confused, the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps is it's own service branch, separate from the U.S. Coast Guard. The U.S. has eight federal uniformed services that commission officers: Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Space Force, Coast Guard, Public Health Service Commissioned Corps, and the NOAA Commissioned Officer Corps. Neovu79 (talk) 17:03, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

The edit is correct. As I noted in the edit summary: "The instructions for the template's 'branch' parameter refer to 'the service branch ... the person was a part of'. Steinman was a 'part' of the USCG and is pictured in the article in CG uniform. Article text makes it clear he was commissioned by USPHS and assigned to the USCG." No one claimed he was a Coast Guard officer but he definitely "was a part of" the CG. In your edit summary, you write: "He is part of the U.S> Public Health Service Commissioned Corps. Not part of the U.S. Coast Guard." No one said Steinman was not part of the USPHS; Steinman was indisputably part of both. As far as I can tell, he served all or nearly of his career as part of the USCG, on USCG bases, and wearing a USCG uniform.--Mox La Push (talk) 20:46, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Your edit in the Infobox is misleading as he was not serving in the Coast Guard. His was in the service of the Public Health Service Commissioned Corps on assignment to the Coast Guard. Meaning every assignment he had with the Coast Guard, he was on orders by the Surgeon General of the United States's chain of command, not though the Commandant of the Coast Guard. A good corresponding comparison is Rear Admiral Erica Schwartz. She is a commissioned corps officer who also served as the Coast Guard's chief medical officer, and now she currently serves as the Deputy Surgeon General of the United States. Neovu79 (talk) 23:40, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

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