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	== Removed "general uprising" comment ==

	I have removed the following comment: "Skanderbeg's rebellion was not considered a general uprising of all Albanians because he did not gain support from Albanians in Venetian-controlled areas or in the recently subdued Ottoman-controlled south." The reasons I've removed it:
	*1. It's not relevant to Skanderbeg's opening biography specifically. If such a comment were to be included, it should be in ] (as it already is).
	*2. The comment is quite misleading and partially false. The goal of the rebellion was not to expel Venice but rather the Ottomans, therefore the support of Albanians in ] was not required or even desired. The League only went to war with Venice once for a brief period. Therefore, the comment that the Venetian controlled north did not rise up seems pointless, even more so when you consider that the Venetians sent men to aid the Albanians, and, ironically enough, it is extremely likely that some of the men they sent were from Albania Veneta. Further, the rebellion was entirely orchestrated by Albanian nobleman, it was not just local uprisings, which makes the inclusion of the sentence even more dubious, as you would not have expected an uprising without the direction of Albanian nobelman, who did not try to take Venetian territories, bar the aforementioned war. The second claim, that he did not have support in Southern Albania, is blatantly false:
	**The ] (]) and ] (Theodor Corona Musachi) had lands in the south and were Central/Southern Albanian noblemen, with forces (naturally) made up of Middle Albanians and Tosks, who supported the League. These were formerly Ottoman controlled territories until 1443/1444.
	**the lands around Berat (in South Albania) came under the League's control. Which is clear from the ] in 1455, and because they are part of the Muzaka's domains.
	**It's stated in the article that Skanderbeg took control over the former possessions of the Zenevisi (South Albania). Also formerly Ottoman held. Additionally, as per ] and ], the Zenevisi were allied to Skanderbeg and Venice in 1455, and held Kastrovillari near Butrint in Southern Albania.
	**"both sides of the Tomor mountains" (in Southern Albania) supported Skanderbeg. Also formerly Ottoman held.
	**As per ], the Himariotes in Southern Albania took part in Skanderbeg's rebellion.

	Because of this, I believe it's clear that the claim Albanians in the Ottoman-controlled South did not rise up is false, and as the comment regarding Venetian controlled territories is irrelevant, and the intent of the sentence appears to be viewing the war through the lense of modern ethnic uprisings, I have removed the sentence. ] (]) 15:35, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

	== Kastriot skenderbeu ==

	He wos not a Nobel or had eny part of serbia or Greece pls stop post miss informations do ur research right he wos albanian end pure blood albanian soo if u need real information u can talk with me. ] (]) 17:40, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

	Skenderbeg has nothing to do with serbia region or Greek region . <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:23, 18 January 2022 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== really? ==		== really? ==

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really?

The page is a joke, starts with propaganda in trying to undermine skanderbe that he holds little and doesn't even mention how many battles he won and how nor any details.

Here how the rest describe in details https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Qelvsi_5E — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.38.227.72 (talk) 03:47, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Jure Kastriotić

Jure Kastriotić was a Croatian nobleman from present day town Rama in Bosnia and Herzegovina. He was born in catholic Croatian family. God bless this Croatian noble hero. ShkijaJanjevarOlujaVictim (talk) 23:34, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

His name

I’d suggest adding his name in Serbian (Đurađ Kastriot (Cyrillic: Ђурађ Кастриот)), to not upset anyone. If Italian and Latin is there, Serbian should be too. Hidontknow (talk) 11:42, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

See the name sector. There are already all the variants written by different authors of different nationalities. Not in the lead. RoyalHeritageAlb (talk) 12:48, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Introduction containing a grammar error

The Introduction contains the following sentence:

In 1444, with support from local nobles and the Catholic Church in Albania, a general council (generalis concilium) of Albanian aristocracy was held in the city of Lezhë (under Venetian control).

The Latin term generalis concilium is grammatically wrong as the noun concilium is a neuter. Therefore, the adjective generalis should turn into generale - correct would be generale concilium.--2001:9E8:4621:48E4:E94A:7AB1:A6C1:7E0D (talk) 21:09, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

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