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*'''Conclusion'''. Scienceapologist's IP address 71.57.90.96 appears to be a residential IP address associated with a home PC. The same IP address was also responsible for attacks on my server that has damaged my business. One attack appears to have come from the shared college IP address.--] 22:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC) | *'''Conclusion'''. Scienceapologist's IP address 71.57.90.96 appears to be a residential IP address associated with a home PC. The same IP address was also responsible for attacks on my server that has damaged my business. One attack appears to have come from the shared college IP address.--] 22:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
:As I mentioned earlier, I have a student who works on research projects with me and I encouraged him to look into these controversies at Misplaced Pages. He has personally admitted to me that he did vandalize Ian's site and has made a few posts under both my IPs at Misplaced Pages. I have taken measures to prevent this sort of action in the future, but as far as I'm concerned this is a matter best left to private conversation. --] 00:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC) |
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User:Ombudsman
Ombudsman (talk · contribs) is under Arbitration Committee sanction - indefinite probation, to be banned blocked for any disruption on a medical article via tendentious editing. The final decision in their case is here: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Cesar Tort and Ombudsman vs others. He has engaged in tendentious editing at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Frequency of autism, a medically related article, including putting forth various conspiracy theories and using the AfD as a platform for accusations against other users (such as User:Essjay and User:Midgley) for alleged misdeeds in the past.
- The following diffs show the offending behavior
- Comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Frequency of autism (wikilink rather diff provided for context)
- Violates probation and injunction to avoid tendentious editing and disruption of medically related articles (Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Cesar_Tort_and_Ombudsman_vs_others#Ombudsman_placed_on_Probation)
- Summation
Request review of Ombudsman's edits at said AfD as I believe they are tendentious and violate terms of his probation. I am a participant in the AfD, but have not participated in any of the autism-related articles. Ombudsman has been notified of this report here.
Reported by: MastCell 01:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
User:Copperchair
Copperchair (talk · contribs) is under Arbitration Committee sanction and is currently under a 1 year ban from editing. The final decision in their case is here: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Copperchair
As the ban log shows Copperchair has not followed their arbitration ruling and was given a 1 year ban. Since the 1 year ban they have continuously created sockpuppets and continued their edit warring as shown by multiple RFCUs . Their latest sockpuppet is Esteban "Lex" Saborío (talk · contribs) who is currently unblocked and continuing Copperchair's removal of War on Terrorism from the Iraq War.
- Summation
- A block of their latest sockpuppet.
- Change of Copperchair's block from a 1 year block to indefinite.
Reported by: --Bobblehead 05:57, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- Blocked Esteban "Lex" Saborío (talk · contribs), plus Kronsteen (talk · contribs), another Copperchair sock. Filled out an RFCU for LaManoTom (talk · contribs), who I suspect is also a Copperchair sock. I'd really like it if something more permanent could be done, but I'm happy to block his socks whenever they show themselves. TomTheHand 19:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
User:195.82.106.244
195.82.106.244 (talk · contribs) is banned. The final decision in their case is here: .
This user is believed to be continuing to edit the BKWSU article in an provocative and biased manner using various sock puppets. The article was semi-protected for a while due to the use of what appear to be random IP proxies but the protection has now lapsed however even semi-protection would be insufficient since this user seems to be using various named accounts also.
Now the user is believed to be using the handles Quickerection (talk · contribs), Jankijunky (talk · contribs) and Fineupstandingmember (talk · contribs). The first of these three is already blocked for being an obscene name. In the latest bout I have not yet seen the usual pattern of taunting other editors but the type and style of edits is very familiar.
He/she is currently making edits to the Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University page. Here are examples of contentious or biased editing,
- Removal of NPOV tag . The 244 editor has always strongly contested any NPOV warning tag . This view is unique and quite unusual since an NPOV tag is usually applied for much less reason to many other articles.
- Re-insertion of obvious bias .
- Biased opinions being referenced as a source for flatly stated facts
- Misuse of references. The Misplaced Pages:OR tag is removed, reference inserted, but the reference does not address the fact being queried (that murlis were ever on sale to the general public).
- Summation
Often the edits deliberately undo changes made by pro-subject editors which were made with consensus on the discussion page. We are currently building consensus on the talk page between editors with differing views. It is a shame that this disruptive editor seems to be able jump in at any time and make a mockery of our otherwise promising efforts to form a balanced team of editors. I was a participant to the arbitration case. Two other participants are currently active on the article, TalkAbout (talk · contribs) and Appledell (talk · contribs). It has never been possible to reach any consensus with 244 due to his/her agressive stance towards other editors, even editors with similar views . I've noticed that 244 just seems to edit as he/she sees fit.
Reported by: Bksimonb 22:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)]
- Result Blocked Fineupstanding. Will probably checkuser the others to make sure. Thatcher131 07:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks Thatcher131. FYI the username Jankijunky is a reference to one of the administrative heads of the organisation, Dadi Janki. Obviously adding the word "junki" after it indicates that a point is being made. Regards Bksimonb 09:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- What appears to be the same user is now continuing the reverts as 86.152.174.239 (talk · contribs). They follow exactly the same pattern and preferred version as the sockpuppets listed above. This is a static IP address based in London using British Telecom. Thanks & regards Bksimonb 18:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- While I can't prove/nor will I assert that the vandalism is .244 (I don't trace IPs nor seek to find out identities), I will ask here as I did on the bot (it removed the protection on some automated basis) page, to please put the protection back on the article as it is only creating havoc. We are just now beginning to get some level of decorum and peaceful working agreements in working with the resources available. Thank you for your time and consideration with regards to this matter. PEACETalkAbout 19:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- What appears to be the same user is now continuing the reverts as 86.152.174.239 (talk · contribs). They follow exactly the same pattern and preferred version as the sockpuppets listed above. This is a static IP address based in London using British Telecom. Thanks & regards Bksimonb 18:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- The IP address has changed to 86.137.200.131 (talk · contribs) now, still based in UK, Newham and using BT ISP. Also the usual WP:OWN and BKWSU taunts have started appearing in the edit comments. Regards Bksimonb 14:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
(Re-indenting)We now have a new suspected sockpuppet Shortskirtlonglegs (talk · contribs). Interesting new style but enough similarities to give the game away. I have also reported on sockpuppet board . Regards Bksimonb 22:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Request long-term solution
This user isn't going to give up in a hurry. This is getting to be hard work. Right now I am the only user around to revert the disruption and because of an obvious perceived COI with the article subject on my part I am probably not the best person to be doing it. Plus, since I am not an admin, I have to post here and other places to report the disruption and this creates a lot of noise (read attention for the banned user). I would really like to discuss what we can do as a long term solution. Ideally, I guess I, would like an admin to monitor the article and article talk page and block any socks as soon as they appear, they are easy enough to spot due to common themes, style of editing and the nature of allegations/insults thrown. Experience has shown that this user will dominate a talk/article page faster than Russian Vine takes over a garden given half a chance, so speed of response is essential.
I am also being subject to off-wiki attacks on the website that is run by this user .
Thanks & regards Bksimonb 07:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
ScienceApologist Off-wiki personal attacks
- 71.57.90.96 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 216.125.49.252 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- ScienceApologist (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Further to our ArbCom outcome and remedies and Off-wiki personal attacks, I note the following:
- I run the Web site plasma-universe.com. *My server logs note various visits by IP address 71.57.90.96 and 216.125.49.252 (Misplaced Pages contributors) whose timing coincide with the actions from two users named "Asshole" (on 23 Feb | Log (359K) ) and "Anon" (on 25 Feb | Log (285K)). Yesterday (11 Mar) I also received over 400 emails (example available on request) sourced from IP address 71.57.90.96, and another contributor to the plasma-universe.com web site received numerous emails,
- Both IP addresses 71.57.90.96 and 216.125.49.252 resolve to ILLINOIS, and an email I received from someone at "Harold Washington College" in Illinois, also shows the IP address of 216.125.49.252.
- WP:NPA on "Off-wiki personal attacks notes that "Misplaced Pages acknowledges that it cannot regulate behavior in media not under the control of the Wikimedia Foundation, but personal attacks elsewhere may create doubt as to whether an editor's on-wiki actions are being conducted in good faith."
- The evidence suggests that User ScienceApologist will be shown to also operate 71.57.90.96 and 216.125.49.252, and he is responsible for the vandalism and spamming of users on plasma-universe.com. Will an Admin check the IP addresses and username? --Iantresman 11:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- I was informed about this notice from a third party who monitors this board. The first time I heard about Ian's website was when Ian made mention of it at Talk:Plasma cosmology, but I thought that he was simply spamming for his website. Now it seems he is accusing me of unbecoming behavior and trying to sully my reputation at Misplaced Pages. I have some ideas who might be orchestrating this (I believe it is a student of mine), but I'm pretty upset that Ian would accuse me of this behavior without ever having asked me for assistance. I do use the two IPs in question to log into Misplaced Pages, but the accusations he is leveling against the ScienceApologist account are not connected with the person who logs into Misplaced Pages as such. --ScienceApologist 12:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- So what you're saying that you believe that 71.57.90.96 has been compromised, though the comments to Talk:Plasma_cosmology under IP address 71.57.90.96 are yours? --Iantresman 17:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- I can also corroborate, as I am the other party who received several messages for "password change request notification." Appx 25-30 on plasma-universe.com and one from wikipedia.com. The one originating from wikipedia.com has been forwarded to wikipedia. Though at that time I didn't have any information on who may have had access to anonymous IP 71.57.90.96 (noted as the originator of the illegitimate password change requests). I assume these were either designed to disrupt use of the system (despite measure in place that countered disruption by outside parties, so usability was not ACTUALLY compromised, thankfully), or as an attempt to hack my password on that forum or on wikipedia. I assume it was more of a "nuisance" than necessarily a hack attempt. I can't say with certainty who originated the illegitimate password change requests, nor will I speculate. If ScienceApologist states the IP address is his (I'll accept his statement), but has been in some manner compromised, I hope that further steps to limit such action in the future will be taken. If the machine is a shared machine, say at a university or other educational institution (or the IP is used by a proxy server shared between many users), etc. it may be difficult to track down an actual perpetrator. So, I won't jump to conclusions as to intent, etc. I'll just hope it doesn't happen again. ;o] Anyway, nice chatting with all y'all again. Not quite sure how I got roped into the whole thing, aside from I'd left comments on Ian's talk page on plasma-universe.com and signed it, and perhaps someone followed that link and spammed it too, though not to the same extent as they spammed Ian. Like I said, I can corroborate THAT it happend, but not much more than the IP address noted in the e-mails from here and thereabouts, and the number received. Hope everyone has a good day, aside from this little quibble. I bear no ill will, so long as I don't get roped in any further. =o] Mgmirkin 03:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- I may also note that the anonymous user ID 71.57.90.96 and Ian have been having discussions on http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Plasma_cosmology in recent days, and possibly contentions elsewhere. As I recall from prior WP experiece, SA & Ian can occasionally be mutually antagonistic over contentious issues. I won't comment on rightness or wrongness of either party, or speculate on whether these contentious issues may have spilled over into vandalism of Ian's site by IP 71.57.90.96 (whether SA or someone else) and current spam issues today. Again, don't really want to get involved much beyond that. Just noting for contextual purposes that both, as I recall (I don't frequent WP much anymore, so I was surprised when I got roped into the spamming bit), have had prior conversations, some of which possibly leading up to today's issue (or not). I hope all this gets resolved amicably, of course. Best of luck all. Mgmirkin 03:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Admin comment. WP:NPA#Off-wiki_personal_attacks clearly states that wikipedia "cannot regulate behavior in media" and "an editor may not be directly penalized for off-wiki attacks". So we can hardly punish these offences, especially since User:ScienceApologist denies involvement. The policy WP:NPA#Off-wiki_personal_attacks does allow off-wiki behaviour to be "taken as aggravating factors when any on-wiki policy violations are being considered", but that is something for WP:RFAR, not WP:AE. I'd be interested to hear what other admins have to say. Bucketsofg 19:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- plasma-universe.com received another attack last night, this time through a proxy server. Unfortunately the uploading of many megabytes of images, and the double redirects put into place, not only crashed the site, but knocked out a number of my client's Web sites too. As Admins may appreciate, this directly affects my business (I am a Web publisher), which I consider malicious.
- I can corroborate this too. I was sent an additional appx 40 messages this morning around 6:00 am. I would still prefer to be kept out of this. However, the perpetrator appears to have their own agenda, and may not even know about this discussion, since it may not be ScienceApologist, but another party who has co-opted IP addresses (or these may be proxy addresses used by a proxy server service, and may be used intermittently by different users). Other IP addresses used included: 75.126.48.148, 85.195.119.22, 85.195.123.22, 85.195.123.25, 85.195.123.26, 85.195.123.29 (I note that their talk pages generally indicate that they may be "shared"/proxy/zombie IP's). I don't know whether these were by the same user (sock puppets), or by copycats (I believe I'll remove a comment from Plasma Cosmology ^talk with details of the initial incident in order to curtail copycat issues). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mgmirkin (talk • contribs) 17:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC).
- I acknowledge that Misplaced Pages has no jurisdiction over any individuals that may or may not be involved. I will be going over the incidents and my server logs more thoroughly for further clues. --Iantresman 12:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Admin response. Your best recourse may be to contact the ISP of the individuals involved and/or your national law enforcement (since such attacks are illegal in most places). One way or the other, you should probably not bring such matters to this page (arbitration enforcement) since we only deal with enforcing existing arbitration rulings. Again, I'm interested in hearing comments from other arbitrators. Bucketsofg 13:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Indeed, I wouldn't involve ISPs and law enforcement here. Unfortunately the latter is difficult as I am based on the UK, and the culprit is using computers in Illinois (and proxies elsewhere). --Iantresman 14:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Please see "Concluding evidence" below. --Iantresman 22:35, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
about violations of user:Azerbaijani
on 22 february 2007 I, user:Elsanaturk and User:Azerbaijani were restricted on two pages to 1rd parol, but user:Azerbaijani since then have violated this restriction in order to do edit warring, on 4 march he did six edits in 27 minutes, on 10 march he did two edits, in 12 march again two edits and also an arbitration commitee decided to restrict involved parties among them User:Azerbaijani on 28 february and thus User:Azerbaijani still violates that decision. Elsanaturk 20:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- What are you talking about? Its a one revert restriction per 24 hours, not an edit restriction. I have not broken 1rr at all on any article I am involved in, infact, I have put it upon myself to wait 48 hours between reverts to prove that I have no intention of edit warring anywhere. Its funny that you should report me, because you are the one that broke 1rr: (thats two reverts just under 24 hours)Azerbaijani 21:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Admin response There is a technical violation by Elsanaturk and no violation that I can see by Azerbijani. However there is a lack of productive discussion, so whether you revert once a day or once a week you're still not making progress. I tend to think that if someone made a dramatic speech on VoA you could find a newspaper or something that talked about it, or a book or other source on the history of the region. If there is no real dispute about authenticity the speeech might go in the external link section and some reference found to describe the speech's content in the article body. Thatcher131 02:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
User:Grandmaster and User:AdilBaguirov
These users are working together to avoid 1rr and game the system on the Mammed Amin Rasulzade article.
Here is the history of the article:
Here is the history of the article's talk page:
Notice how Grandmaster has not been involved in the article since the 21st of February and did not participate in any of the recent discussions. Here is Adil Baguirov's revert, in which he is adding information which has nothing to do with Rasulzade, let alone his exile: Then, after I revert, with good reason, since the information is completely irrelevant and I have said this many times, Grandmaster comes out of nowhere and reverts back to Adil, saying that "you cant decide on your own whats relevant and whats not": None of what Adil inserted into the article is relevant about Rasulzade or his exile. I keep telling Adil that he should put his information in the relevant article (such as the ADR article) but he wont listen. If you read the full quotes from the sources that Adil is using to put that information in the article, you will see that known of them are referring to Rasulzade. Adil also clearly distorts the Swietochowski quote, which would not be the first time he has distort quotes and information. My conclusion is that either Grandmaster was reverting blindly, without even looking at what he was reverting, or he reverted due to a request by Adil, or maybe because he is stalking me. None of the information Adil is trying to add is about Rasulzade, let alone his exile.
Also note that while Grandmaster is telling me not to revert and wait until there is a consensus, yet he again shows his double standard by continuously reverting to his own version: Azerbaijani 21:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
ScienceApologist Off-wiki personal attacks: Concluding evidence
- 71.57.90.96 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 216.125.49.252 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- ScienceApologist (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Previously User:Joshuaschroeder,
- "Asshole" | Anon | Anoo (Offsite attack usernames)
Here is what I think is concluding evidence on the three cases of off-site vandalism and personal attacks of my Web site, plasma-universe.com.
- 216.125.49.252 is an IP address of "Harold Washington College". ScienceApologist is quite correct that as a shared IP address, one of his students could use it.
- 71.57.90.96 appears to be residential (home) IP address. Its times of use suggest out-of-college hours; My server log files (available on request) include the modified IP-address entry "c-71-57-90-96.hsd1.il.comcast.net". I contacted the customer service department of Comcast.net who told me that "it looks like it belongs to a subscriber .. probably a home". This would make it very difficult to "compromise" this IP address as recorded on Misplaced Pages.
- A student may plausibly have been responsible for the attacks using the shared IP address, 216.125.49.252, the likelihood that they would also have access to the home IP address 71.57.90.96 is slim. The student would require direct access to the home computer, or the installation of trojan software. We also have to assume that the student would have the motive, the will, the expertise and a streak of malicious ill-will again both myself and ScienceApologist. Or the student has authorised access to the home computer, but the owner does not notice.
- ScienceApologist says he heard about plasma-universe.com after my mention of it on Talk:Plasma cosmology, on 23 Feb 2007 at 20:08 UTC (14:08 CDT). My server log files shows a visit from the home IP 71.57.90.96 at 8:05 UTC (2:05 CDT), 12 hours earlier. It results from a Google search for: "redshift wikipedia" an article which ScienceApologist has been heavily involved.
- While some of the vandalism was carried out through anonymous proxies such as Anonymouse.org and hidemyass.com, the most recent attack on 13 Mar at 03:08 UTC (10:08pm CDT+1 12 Mar) was preceded one minute earlier by a server log entry from "c-71-57-90-96.hsd1.il.comcast.net", the home IP address.
- Where the off-site Web site vandals left comments, it is interesting to compare some of them with previous comments by ScienceApologist
ScienceApologist | "Asshole" / "Anon" |
"Ian Tresman is a catastrophist who supports Velikovskian pseudoscience" | You should read Velikovsky. |
"Heliospheric current sheet .. it is the largest structure of the helioshpere, not of the entire Solar System." | "Heliospheric current sheet .. is the biggest structure in the solar system." |
"the 'electric universe' .. publish exclusively on the internet or vanity presses" | Redirect Vanity Publication |
"IEEE special editions on plasma cosmology are part of the obscure plasma cosmology circle. The usual suspects are only able to publish in an engineering journal" |
"The IEEE Nuclear and Plasma Sciences Society .. the only professional outfit willing to publish articles on the plasma universe." |
"Ian Tresman' .. Basic ignorance in the fields of astrophysics, physics, mathematics, and the natural sciences in general" | "Ian Tresman maintains pseudoskepticism towards the Big Bang, despite having never taken an actual class on the subject." |
- Conclusion. Scienceapologist's IP address 71.57.90.96 appears to be a residential IP address associated with a home PC. The same IP address was also responsible for attacks on my server that has damaged my business. One attack appears to have come from the shared college IP address.--Iantresman 22:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- As I mentioned earlier, I have a student who works on research projects with me and I encouraged him to look into these controversies at Misplaced Pages. He has personally admitted to me that he did vandalize Ian's site and has made a few posts under both my IPs at Misplaced Pages. I have taken measures to prevent this sort of action in the future, but as far as I'm concerned this is a matter best left to private conversation. --ScienceApologist 00:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)