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	== should autogynephilia be removed? ==

	Autogynephilia is the paraphilia in which a male is attracted to himself as a woman in my opinion this should be removed because it pseudo science used to justify transphobia.

	the term autogynephilia cam from a study done in the 1980s where the reserchers claimed that there are two types of transgender people "homosexual transvestic men" and "autogynephiles" (they seemed to be unaware of transmen and non-binary people). They claimed that autogynephiles are men who have gender dysphoria that are attracted to woman the "evidence" for this is that "autogynephiles" fantasize about having sex as a woman but if someone sees themself as a woman then they would fantasize about being a woman so it's not a paraphilia. The study was controversial even when it first came out and no reputable phycological organizations (world health organization, American physiatrist association, and others) recognize this model of transgenderism. I think "autogynephiles" are just lesbian and bisexual transwoman who are labeled as sexaully perverted to make them seem invalid

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	:One has to distinguish the concept of autogynephilia itself from the hypothesis that it can cause gender dysphoria and transgender identity. While the latter is controversial, the former is not so much. In fact, autogynephilia is mentioned in the DSM-5 in the context of ]. <span style="font-family:Palatino">]</span> <sup>]</sup> 04:31, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

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	]. ] (]) 09:32, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
	: You misunderstand the distinction between a ] and a ]. ] (]) 16:28, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

	== Attraction towards trans people is not a paraphilia ==		== Attraction towards trans people is not a paraphilia ==

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A revert I'm unhappy with

I added the following at the outset: Recently-coined names for paraphilias (abasiophilia, algolagnia, etc.) typically have a Greek origin.

This was reverted by EvergreenFir because it was not documented.

Documentation is not required for items easily verifiable. Anyone who goes to a dictionary can see these terms are coined from Greek. Is a source saying so really required?

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Attraction towards trans people is not a paraphilia

Stating that attraction towards trans men or trans women is a paraphilia is pretty obviously transphobic. Attraction towards, say, intersex people isn’t included which suggests that attraction towards trans people is some sort of fetish, which is very transphobic rhetoric. 89.190.193.149 (talk) 03:07, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

@89.190.193.149 I think "androphilia" (attraction to males) and "gynephilia" (attraction to females) should be added in order to make it clear that the attraction to trans people is not necessarily different to attraction to cis people. 2804:14D:9081:4084:40BF:6785:4E:D9FF (talk) 14:29, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Fr Jaspertheasper (talk) 20:47, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Coulrophilia

Coulrophilia is the paraphilia involving sexual attraction to clowns, mimes and jesters. 2600:1700:54C:B010:2DE4:5480:5D1D:C5BB (talk) 00:15, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

You need a WP:MEDRS source. Crossroads 00:09, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Autohybistropyilia

autohybistropyilia is the attraction to oneself as a serial killer. This should be added in order to make it a more complete list. 2804:14D:9081:4084:40BF:6785:4E:D9FF (talk) 14:27, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Autohomoeroticism and Autosapphoeroticism

These are usually paired up with AAP and AGP, but they're extremely prevalent in the modern age and I believe they should be added to the master list. 2804:14D:9081:8545:40BF:6785:4E:D9FF (talk) 14:48, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

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