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| The climate section needs work. It claims the Lake Erie shoreline is "nearly east-west" from the mouth of the Cuyahoga River to Sandusky. It claims that at the mouth of the Cuyahoga it "turns sharply northeast". It claims that this feature is the principle cause of the East Sides' lake effect snow. First, the latter is false! The "principle" cause is the sudden rise in elevation of the land, not the direction of the shoreline. (Although we can have a useless debate as to whether it is the land's rise, the prevailing wind direction, or the existence of the lake itself which is 'principle'.) | The climate section needs work. It claims the Lake Erie shoreline is "nearly east-west" from the mouth of the Cuyahoga River to Sandusky. It claims that at the mouth of the Cuyahoga it "turns sharply northeast". It claims that this feature is the principle cause of the East Sides' lake effect snow. First, the latter is false! The "principle" cause is the sudden rise in elevation of the land, not the direction of the shoreline. (Although we can have a useless debate as to whether it is the land's rise, the prevailing wind direction, or the existence of the lake itself which is 'principle'.) | ||
| Secondly, there's no sudden change of direction at the river's mouth. you can draw a line almost exactly Northeast at the lake shore from nearly the Western city limit East 30 miles to Fairport Harbor; there's no "sudden" change at the river outlet. See for yourself on any aerial photograph. Since the shoreline runs NE from (nearly) the Western boundary, it certainly shouldn't be described as running "nearly east-west" from the river to Sandusky. And neither should it be assumed that the reader understands that Sandusky is West of Cleveland (fact not mentioned) (nor Fairport Harbor East). The best I can come up with is to say the Southern shore of Lk Erie runs NE from Cleveland for 30 miles to Fairport Harbor. East of the Cuyahoga River mouth, land elevation rises rapidly in the south which, together with the prevailing winds off the lake from the North West, is the principle reason for the East Side's Lake Effect Snow.] (]) 22:16, 11 January 2023 (UTC) | Secondly, there's no sudden change of direction at the river's mouth. you can draw a line almost exactly Northeast at the lake shore from nearly the Western city limit East 30 miles to Fairport Harbor; there's no "sudden" change at the river outlet. See for yourself on any aerial photograph. Since the shoreline runs NE from (nearly) the Western boundary, it certainly shouldn't be described as running "nearly east-west" from the river to Sandusky. And neither should it be assumed that the reader understands that Sandusky is West of Cleveland (fact not mentioned) (nor Fairport Harbor East). The best I can come up with is to say the Southern shore of Lk Erie runs NE from Cleveland for 30 miles to Fairport Harbor. East of the Cuyahoga River mouth, land elevation rises rapidly in the south which, together with the prevailing winds off the lake from the North West, is the principle reason for the East Side's Lake Effect Snow.] (]) 22:16, 11 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
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Population
2020 census shows drop in population. I made a small adjustment in the body of the article, but the infobox needs updating. Not sure about some of the parameters and would appreciate someone helping. thanks. MartinezMD (talk) 22:35, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Incorrect rendering of maplink (image_map)
The first maplink in this article's infobox does not render properly. I checked the OSM/Wikidata links according to this guide, but it was not immediately obvious to me what the issue might be. Even with an explicit ID for the template, the OSM shape data does not seem to load properly. After some research, I discovered it's a known bug. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.3.3.14 (talk) 19:30, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
Crime Section Outdated
This article states crime in Cleveland has declined, using data that's nearly 5 years old. Cleveland's crime rate is surging and it has made national headlines since 2020.
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This is outdated and must be updated Wordbearer88 (talk) 04:29, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
References
- https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/182130
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Lead suggestion
The lead should certainly mention the absolutely remarkable population collapse from nearly 1 million people to some 300,000. This is extremely noteworthy but the lead seems to want to sell the city? Mattximus (talk) 23:23, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
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Population
Why are the population estimates from 2021 posted within the Cleveland article itself, but not on the articles of other major cities? If San Jose isn't going to directly post their numbers bringing them under 1,000,000 residents, in addition to the countless other major cities that supposedly lost population from 2020-2021, why are we the only ones that do? I think it's best to leave the article posting the 2020 census information, if that's what other city articles reflect. 184.59.159.0 (talk) 02:52, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Climate
The climate section needs work. It claims the Lake Erie shoreline is "nearly east-west" from the mouth of the Cuyahoga River to Sandusky. It claims that at the mouth of the Cuyahoga it "turns sharply northeast". It claims that this feature is the principle cause of the East Sides' lake effect snow. First, the latter is false! The "principle" cause is the sudden rise in elevation of the land, not the direction of the shoreline. (Although we can have a useless debate as to whether it is the land's rise, the prevailing wind direction, or the existence of the lake itself which is 'principle'.) Secondly, there's no sudden change of direction at the river's mouth. you can draw a line almost exactly Northeast at the lake shore from nearly the Western city limit East 30 miles to Fairport Harbor; there's no "sudden" change at the river outlet. See for yourself on any aerial photograph. Since the shoreline runs NE from (nearly) the Western boundary, it certainly shouldn't be described as running "nearly east-west" from the river to Sandusky. And neither should it be assumed that the reader understands that Sandusky is West of Cleveland (fact not mentioned) (nor Fairport Harbor East). The best I can come up with is to say the Southern shore of Lk Erie runs NE from Cleveland for 30 miles to Fairport Harbor. East of the Cuyahoga River mouth, land elevation rises rapidly in the south which, together with the prevailing winds off the lake from the North West, is the principle reason for the East Side's Lake Effect Snow.174.130.71.156 (talk) 22:16, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Featured article review and update needed
This 2006 FA, last reviewed in 2007, has fallen away from FA standards. A very large number of the citations date to the early 2000s, with outdated text throughout. An issue is raised above about the #Climate section. There are short stubby sections. There is MOS:SANDWICHing and layout issues. Citations are incomplete and inconsistent. There is repetitive prose (ctrl-f on "home to" for example). There is some bias/boosterism evident (eg, no mention in the article of blight or urban decay, which plagues Cleveland). The article is bloated, at 12,000 words, with large sections that could be carved out to a notable list page. Listing at WP:FARGIVEN. A top-to-bottom rewrite is overdue. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:42, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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