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	== The first list could be extended to a top 30 ==

	I would like to see a top 30 on the first list ] (]) 09:30, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
	:Leave at 25. ] (]) 16:22, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
	::Agree with 25. ] (]) 21:56, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
	:Extend it to 30. ] (]) 23:24, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
	::No, because then calls will be made to extend it to 40, then 50, etc etc. ] (]) 23:31, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
	:::This incremental extending of the list seems to have already happened with the second list, going from 75 to 85 to 100. ] (]) 04:21, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
	::::If any of you want a top 30, 40, 50, or 100, do so on your sandboxes. ] (]) 14:42, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

	::::The second list, is going to remain at 100. ] (]) 14:59, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
	:::::There doesn't seem to have been any consensus toward increasing the second list to 100. ] (]) 17:32, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
	:::We could probably save time then by making it 50 now. The solution is to make a good argument of "why" or "why not", not just to say "Leave it at x". That's not a good answer. ] (]) 00:52, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
	::::Actually, the opposite. On Misplaced Pages, you need consensus to change something, default is to leave at the current consensus. ] (]) 20:30, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
	:::::Oh I wasn't suggesting you don't need consensus to change, however I don't believe "Leave it at x" without anything further is a productive statement. Equally "I would like to see it extended" is also not a productive statement. ] (]) 19:57, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
	::::::On the topic of the second list, it looks like this increased it to 100, with the edit reason "No consensus to limit the Second list to Top 85 and either way a top "100 and 25" is way better.", despite the fact that there was no consensus to limit it to 100 either. As for it being 85, this extended it from 80 with the edit reason "Extended the 2nd list to 85 to align the length of reigns better (57 years, 246 days for first list, 57 years, 211 days for second compared to 57 years, 246 days and 58 years, 324 days)". That being said, due to some other looked monarchs being added to the second list, the difference between #25 of the first list and #85 of the second list is now "56 years, 99 days" for the first list and "62 years, 185 days" for the second list, so it no longer aligns. ] (]) 19:23, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
	::::::: (Same poster as before) looking back even farther, the extension to 80 was added with this , which was because it seems that prior, it the list consisted of whatever sum of the first two lists added up to 100, because before the list was separated into sovereign and non-sovereign sections, it was a simple top 100. The issue there was that there wasn't a clean split between the two lists, so it ended up with situations like 23 in the sovereign section and 77 in the non-sovereign section. I'm not sure which changes were officially discussed and implemented or which ones were unilaterally added and not questioned.] (]) 00:11, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

	== Why delete this page? ==

	It appears that an IP has ''attempted'' to nominat this page for deletion, in order to replace it with a page (currently in draft form) of his own. ] (]) 04:59, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

	:ok yes ] (]) 05:16, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
	::'''Delete''' Redirect's to ] ‎ ] (]) 05:23, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
	:::There's nothing wrong with this page & your 'draft' has already been rejected multiple times. ] (]) 05:26, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

	== If anyone's got time, chronologically arrange the third list based on the ruler's starting year, if they share the same length of rule==		== If anyone's got time, chronologically arrange the third list based on the ruler's starting year, if they share the same length of rule==

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If anyone's got time, chronologically arrange the third list based on the ruler's starting year, if they share the same length of rule

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Age in days fix - Julian problem

I have corrected where the { { age in days } } function gives the wrong answer because the calculator assumes the Gregorian calendar and therefore that there is no Feb 29th in a century boundary, when there was one. I have only altered 13th-16th century reigns when the reign passed a non-leap century year. (I have also assumed all HRE dates for 17th century reigns are Gregorian.) The change I made is: I convert the start and end dates to the Gregorian equivalent. This works because for example a 1300s date is 8 days later but a 1400s date is 9 days later. This way, I'm not putting in fake dates to get the number right. Silas Maxfield (talk) 10:50, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

To be clear, I have only changed the parameters for the age in days function, not any of the displayed dates. Silas Maxfield (talk) 10:53, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Elizabeth II, longest-reigning monarch

Wouldn't it be interesting to clarify, even as a footnote, that Elizabeth II's was the longest reign in history in the sense that she reigned effectively throughout her whole reign, whilst Louis XIV ascended the throne when he was merely 5 and therefore reigned under a regency - with no effective powers - until he reached adulthood? I see no mention to that anywhere, and I do think it is important to leave it clear. 85.152.246.66 (talk) 20:01, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

No, because this page deals with length of reign. This includes where a regency is required. We wouldn't (for example) cut nine years off of the end of George III of the UK's reign. GoodDay (talk) 21:45, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

All right, thanks for your quick answer. I wasn't suggesting cutting any years off of Louis XIV's reign, but thought it'd be interesting to specify in a footnote either that a) during the first part of his reign he was a minor and a regent ruled in his stead, or b) Elizabeth II had the longest effective reign in history, since not only did she wear the Crown but she exerted her royal functions from the beginning of her reign until its very end. 85.152.246.66 (talk) 21:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

So far, the criteria for this page, is just to list the reign's length :) GoodDay (talk) 22:01, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

If you have a reliable source for the info, it could go in a footnote. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 22:34, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

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