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| I had edited this but realized I should've added a source and someone had removed it by then. It's true in any case that quite a few songs use the same experimental studio techniques as previous albums or are simply psychedelic songs. It says psychedelic music right under genres and length, too. ] (]) 19:44, 9 July 2023 (UTC) | I had edited this but realized I should've added a source and someone had removed it by then. It's true in any case that quite a few songs use the same experimental studio techniques as previous albums or are simply psychedelic songs. It says psychedelic music right under genres and length, too. ] (]) 19:44, 9 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
| :Infoboxes by necessity have limited information. For an album, especially one with very diverse genres that are in the White album, we can't always include every genre of every song. The three genres currently in the infobox capture the majority of the album. Most of the songs are not psychedelic. As for the one source you mention, it's one opinion from one website; in fact, that source appears to have disappeared from the link (although it might be rescued if we look hard enough) so currently we don't have any details about what the writer meant. I personally don't support adding psychedelia, but thanks for bringing this to the talk page. If there is enough support here to form a ], it might be possible to add another genre. ] (]) 20:05, 9 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Reissues section
Does anyone think the paragraph beginning "Tape versions of the album did not feature a white cover or the numbering system" is sufficiently notable for inclusion? None of it is sourced to a third-party RS that actually comments on the issue; instead, it's self-sourced, and "we" seem to be saying the points are significant. (Not only that, but the text is sitting in the Reissues section when in fact it concerns the original release.)
It was quite normal for cassettes and 8-track cartridges to have a different sequencing, as I understand it, and the White Album certainly wasn't the only Beatles album affected. I don't see a reason to include this information unless some decent sources tell us it is significant. JG66 (talk) 10:33, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
Is George Martin a reliable source?
I recently added some information citing an interview with George Martin as the source. This interview was recorded in 1993 and is currently available on YouTube. It is from the archive of Reelin’ In The Years Productions. My edit was reverted with the explanation "not a reliable source". If George Martin is not a reliable source, who is?--Jburlinson (talk) 13:38, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Well, for Misplaced Pages's purposes, George Martin is a primary source, so per WP:PSTS, there are no end of more reliable sources than him (ie, third-party secondary sources). And especially by 1968 – in fact in that year of all years – he was on the outer with them, eg, he describes himself as more of an executive producer on the White Album. So I wouldn't say he was that well informed, compared to previous years. JG66 (talk) 13:58, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Interesting comment. How about then the multiple instances of quotations by the Beatles themselves in this article? Wouldn't they also be primary sources? One might say, of course, that these quotes are all extracted from print materials while Martin's comments were captured on video; but that's just a difference in the mode of transmission. The sources are all "primary". And an executive producer is not just a bystander.--Jburlinson (talk) 11:20, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Move page to The Beatles (White album)
Do you think it would be appropriate to move this page from The Beatles (album) to The Beatles (White album)? All the self-titled releases by Weezer are done in this style (E.G. Weezer (The Blue album)) and I was simply wondering if something similar is appropriate for here. Moline1 (talk) 16:30, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Moline1: Weezer has multiple self-titled albums, so the color is used as an additional disambiguator. Since The Beatles only have one self-titled album, the color isn't needed in the title. GoingBatty (talk) 16:33, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty: That makes complete sense. Was not even thinking about that when I made this discussion. With this cleared up, I consider this "closed". Moline1 (talk) 22:30, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Musical Styles
"Happiness Is A Warm Gun" really flies in the face of this sentence in the second paragraph: "The Beatles also broke with the band's tradition at the time of incorporating several musical styles in one song by keeping each piece of music consistently faithful to a select genre." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coliiiiin (talk • contribs) 02:51, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- I agree. I also would dispute the presence of any such "tradition". (As a side note, what seems to be a lot rarer on this LP are bridges, or "middle eights". But that's more a shift in genre from pop to folk & rock.) Huw Powell (talk) 04:22, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- What is your source of information? Ritchie333 12:30, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Musical breaks while recording "I Will"
"In between numerous takes, the three Beatles broke off to busk some other songs." That's not busking. Jamming, perhaps. Relaxing, maybe. Goofing off, even. But it's not busking. "Bounce around," perhaps? Huw Powell (talk) 04:24, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- What is your source of information? Ritchie333 12:30, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Genre: psychedelia should be added
Multiple songs fit this category, and according to source 56: "The Beatles' White Album release marked the coming death of the 60s, but it was also The Beatles' most psychedelic and surreal record."
I had edited this but realized I should've added a source and someone had removed it by then. It's true in any case that quite a few songs use the same experimental studio techniques as previous albums or are simply psychedelic songs. It says psychedelic music right under genres and length, too. BrianVL (talk) 19:44, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Infoboxes by necessity have limited information. For an album, especially one with very diverse genres that are in the White album, we can't always include every genre of every song. The three genres currently in the infobox capture the majority of the album. Most of the songs are not psychedelic. As for the one source you mention, it's one opinion from one website; in fact, that source appears to have disappeared from the link (although it might be rescued if we look hard enough) so currently we don't have any details about what the writer meant. I personally don't support adding psychedelia, but thanks for bringing this to the talk page. If there is enough support here to form a WP:CONSENSUS, it might be possible to add another genre. Sundayclose (talk) 20:05, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
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