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| :I appreciate your willingness to collaborate and not take things personally. I think that "far-right" is hyperbole being used to create a reaction, designed to sound impartial without actually being impartial. But after clicking on the link and reading the lead on the article for far-right... I mean, wow, that's an extreme word. | :I appreciate your willingness to collaborate and not take things personally. I think that "far-right" is hyperbole being used to create a reaction, designed to sound impartial without actually being impartial. But after clicking on the link and reading the lead on the article for far-right... I mean, wow, that's an extreme word. | ||
| :Another one I'm stuck on is this article for ]. I am not saying the criticism isn't fair, but I don't think the way this article stands is compliant with Misplaced Pages standards, but I'm not sure what to do with it. I don't think he's notable, but I think there really IS a story in "The use of MMS in Argentina during Covid" that has resulted in several deaths, and a whole bunch of people involved, a lot of information in those sources not in the article because none of it applies to him - but it's quite the story. I'm still trying to figure out how to approach it fairly. ] (]) 20:43, 19 July 2023 (UTC) | :Another one I'm stuck on is this article for ]. I am not saying the criticism isn't fair, but I don't think the way this article stands is compliant with Misplaced Pages standards, but I'm not sure what to do with it. I don't think he's notable, but I think there really IS a story in "The use of MMS in Argentina during Covid" that has resulted in several deaths, and a whole bunch of people involved, a lot of information in those sources not in the article because none of it applies to him - but it's quite the story. I'm still trying to figure out how to approach it fairly. ] (]) 20:43, 19 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
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If you would like to discuss an edit I make, please do so on the talk page of that article. Misplaced Pages is a collaborative place, it's ok to disagree on article direction! The talk pages are there to help generate consensus about the article. If you bring article discussion here, I'll move it to the talk page of that article and respond there. Denaar (talk) 05:26, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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- Denaar, This appears to me to be an obsolete notice that no longer represents the current guidance of the Arbitration Committee on this topic. I believe that this notice was placed in good faith, and an admin might interpret it as a good-enough proxy for the correct one, so it's probably wise to read the current advice about contentious topics in general, and more particularly the one about India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. (Non-administrator comment) Mathglot (talk) 03:51, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- The article I was working on wasn't tagged - and I didn't realize it was a minefield at the time! I appreciate the correct link. Denaar (talk) 03:55, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
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I think you make a lot of improvements that I do agree with, and I don't mean to come off as stonewalling or confrontational. I appreciate your conviction and resolve to adhere to 5p, I just don't see the way this topic is being treated as changing the lens through which policy is viewed. It seems like STATUS QUO to me. DN (talk) 08:34, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- I appreciate your willingness to collaborate and not take things personally. I think that "far-right" is hyperbole being used to create a reaction, designed to sound impartial without actually being impartial. But after clicking on the link and reading the lead on the article for far-right... I mean, wow, that's an extreme word.
- Another one I'm stuck on is this article for Andreas Kalcker. I am not saying the criticism isn't fair, but I don't think the way this article stands is compliant with Misplaced Pages standards, but I'm not sure what to do with it. I don't think he's notable, but I think there really IS a story in "The use of MMS in Argentina during Covid" that has resulted in several deaths, and a whole bunch of people involved, a lot of information in those sources not in the article because none of it applies to him - but it's quite the story. I'm still trying to figure out how to approach it fairly. Denaar (talk) 20:43, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Introduction to contentious topics
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Editors are advised to err on the side of caution if unsure whether making a particular edit is consistent with these expectations. If you have any questions about contentious topics procedures you may ask them at the arbitration clerks' noticeboard or you may learn more about this contentious topic here. You may also choose to note which contentious topics you know about by using the {{Ctopics/aware}} template.
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