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All in all I think that the sparse sources are too inconsistent with each other for the gang name to be mentioned in the article in any capacity, but thought I'd mention them in case anyone wants to discuss. If there are reliable sources clearly establishing that the Drummond Street Posse really was a criminal gang and that the attackers were part of it, then that would seem worth including. ] (]) 13:58, 27 July 2023 (UTC) All in all I think that the sparse sources are too inconsistent with each other for the gang name to be mentioned in the article in any capacity, but thought I'd mention them in case anyone wants to discuss. If there are reliable sources clearly establishing that the Drummond Street Posse really was a criminal gang and that the attackers were part of it, then that would seem worth including. ] (]) 13:58, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

:https://web.archive.org/web/20060408155830/https://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006160132,00.html also claims the gangsters were part of the Drummond Street Posse. ] (]) 14:22, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

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Richard everitt

I PASS BY RICHARD'S MEMORIAL SITE MOST DAYS WHERE IT IS NOW A TOWER BLOCK I AM TRYING TO CONTACT HIS SISTER LUCY WHO SOME TIMES STAYED WITH HER FRIEND IN LULWORTH TOWER BLOCK IN AGAR GROVE . 85.255.234.40 (talk) 21:18, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Drummond Street Posse

The "Drummond Street Posse" is mentioned in a couple of sources in relation to Richard's murder, but in contradictory ways.

Mothers Against Murder And Aggression (a charity who are now defunct) previously claimed that the "Drummond Street Posse" was the name of the Asian gang that killed Richard. See https://web.archive.org/web/20100301213309/http://www.mamaa.org/infalre.html. This is weakly supported by http://thecnj.myzen.co.uk/camden/2007/100407/news100407_01.html, which vaguely says that the Posse was "implicated" in Richard's murder,

But Outlook India at https://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/backstreet-boys/204223 describes them as a gang who have been defending Drummond Street from aggression by white gangs following Richard's death, and implies (by omission) that they had nothing to do with Richard's killing.

And finally http://www.thecnj.com/camden/2008/041008/news041008_02.html disputes that they are a gang at all: "there is still debate both inside and beyond the police as to whether Camden groups like the Cromer Street Massive, Drummond Street Posse, Centric Boyz and Queens Crescent Crew are any more than loose affiliations of teenagers with no organised criminal element".

All in all I think that the sparse sources are too inconsistent with each other for the gang name to be mentioned in the article in any capacity, but thought I'd mention them in case anyone wants to discuss. If there are reliable sources clearly establishing that the Drummond Street Posse really was a criminal gang and that the attackers were part of it, then that would seem worth including. ExplodingCabbage (talk) 13:58, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

https://web.archive.org/web/20060408155830/https://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006160132,00.html also claims the gangsters were part of the Drummond Street Posse. ExplodingCabbage (talk) 14:22, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
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