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Dave Wong

I note that you have removed a link to the main (only?) English-language fan site from Dave Wong, referring to WP:EL and WP:SPAM but without further explanation of what was wrong with the link. The external site is not a commercial one, and provides extensive lyrics and interesting biographical material, albeit unsourced. With that gone, all that is left is IMDB and a Chinese-language source. Please can you explain why the English one should be deleted. (I have no connection with the site; I'm just a fan.) - Fayenatic london (talk) 13:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

can you say law suite? those lyrics are copyrigted and protected, linking to a site that knowingly breaks copyright is againt policy. Betacommand 13:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the heads-up. - Fayenatic london (talk) 14:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Canons regular

I see you have re-edited this. I undid your edit on the grounds you ALSO removed CATEGORIES and links to other WP. I am not convinced that ALL external links should be removed, but I shall leave that to you. Do you want to re-install the cats? --Richhoncho 14:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Please take another look I fixed that and only removed the one link. Betacommand 14:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Not spam

Please take a look at http://www.freewebs.com/ganymedes/index.htm and stop removing it from Fabian S. Woodley. It isn't spam or an inappropriate external link. —Angr 14:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Ditto on the links deleted from Hendrik Van Riessen, D. H. Th. Vollenhoven, and Abraham Kuyper, which I have restored. --Flex (talk|contribs) 14:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Ascari Limited

Why was this company deleted ? As far as I can see it was a valid company stub and you have HUNDREDS of those which have not been deleted. To delete without giving me ANY guidance as to why is absolutely rediculous and not in the spirit of information sharing.

See WP:CSD#A7 WP:CSD#G11 and this page has been deleted before, you seem to have posted the same content too. Betacommand 15:28, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

So please help me out. If I look at http://en.wikipedia.org/ADERANT which I used as a basis; why is that company still allowed a Wiki presense? Which items of Ascari Limited do you disagree with?

I'm really trying hard to undersand this and I'm happy with some guidance.

that company does not have an article just because their is a page doesn't meant that it passes our guidelines, all it means is that it slipped past us. Betacommand 16:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, so now I feel better. However, surely the stub ict-company-stub is all about listing KEY elements of companies? If you go to that stub and see all the companies listed I would say they ALL should be deleted. But does that really make sense? Surely the ict-company-stub is about companies that exist, their history and what they do. Ok, we don't need full sales pitches, I understand that, but surely key information is fine? Surely http://en.wikipedia.org/Analog_Devices is also the same and should be deleted or is it because they are perhaps more well known?

I believe this should be clarified as there are over 200 pages of ict companies listed !

That page clearly states notability and doesn't read like an ad. see WP:N for guidelines along with WP:SPAM Betacommand 16:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm starting to see the picture. I need to demonstrate that Ascari Limited is notable.

Spam removal

Hey, the link on the Clinton Radars page that you keep removing is their actual official website. Could we please do something about keeping it on there? DMighton 15:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I reverted your removal of the link to humans on the Bruce Cockburn page. Please see my discussion on the talk page. wrp103 (Bill Pringle) 17:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Ditto for your removal of this on Sei Whale: News report on Japanese whalers hunting Sei Whales in 2002/2003 . Please take a lighter touch. Kla'quot 17:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Removal of Usenet posts

This bot recently removed a relevant external link from FEAL, . I think this behavior should be stopped since linking to (or even citing) Usenet posts is not explicitly disallowed, and they often provide useful information and context when written by a reputable person.

Even worse, the bot marks these edits as "minor", so they might fly below the radar of some people interested in edits made to the articles. -- intgr 17:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

<editcontflict error>A) I am not a bot. and B) the groups.google.com fails every policy out there and should not be linked to. Betacommand 17:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Looking at the above posts, this does not sound like an isolated incident. It seems that the removal of links has more potential to do damage than it's worth. Cases where the bot removes links that were actually providing meaningful context may go unnoticed, as the edit summary can be be false. One criteria of operating a bot on Misplaced Pages is that it "is harmless", per WP:BOT. -- intgr 17:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I am not a bot, so don't quote WP:BOT and spam is not harmless. Betacommand 17:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Clearly, you are not performing these edits manually, so you are technically operating a bot, whether under your own user account or not. Usenet links are not inherently violating policy, and can even be reliable where the author is a recognized person. -- intgr 17:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Links to usenet groups in the articles about the groups themselves (such as you removed at Talk.origins and Alt.usenet.kooks are most definately not spam and do not run afoul of the external linking guidelines. You should also review Misplaced Pages:Attribution, which allows usenet posts to be cited in some circumstances. - Ehheh 17:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Removal of external links

Please provide solid reasons (not just links to WP guidelines of questionable applicability) for deleting all these external links before continuing with this rampage. -- Rsholmes 17:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

read the policy and that should answer your questions. Betacommand 17:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I read the policies, all of them. I'm also an admin, and this is an official warning; you're making many highly questionable edits at bot-like speeds. Stop, and explain your edits. For example, what part of the many policies you are citing in your edit summaries justifies removing a link to the roguelike games newsgroups from the Roguelike article? --AnonEMouse 17:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=rec.games.roguelike fails because it links to a search result and per WP:EL#Links normally to be avoided section 9 and the fact that groups cannot be use as WP:RS Betacommand 17:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

• Betacommand, I read the policies too but can't find the reason for your edit (which is incomplete btw). Can you please explain the removal on Peter Samson? Thanks. -Susanlesch 17:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

• Not to jump on the bandwagon, but your removal of this link broke the Control-Alt-Delete page. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 17:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

And while we're at it..

Please look at the external links before you remove them. Yes, every single one of them. This edit not only shows that your bot/script doesn't work all the time, it also shows that you remove completely relevant external links. I've therefore reverted that edit. --Conti|✉ 17:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

STOP!

Please STOP and adequately address the numerous concerns in your edits that people have already pointed out. You are disrupting Misplaced Pages, and merely throwing vague policy links as responses, where people are claiming that the removed links do not conflict with the policy. -- intgr 17:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

What is the criteria your bot uses for removing links? ~a (user • talk • contribs) 17:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Stop or be blocked.

I don't know how to put this another way. Stop, and respond, either here, or at WP:ANI#Emergency: Betacommand deletion at bot speeds - please review impending block. --AnonEMouse 17:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)