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DC comics a redundant acronym or not?

This is a great example as to why wikipedia is not considered a valid academic source. Being in line with a secondary source is more important than being factually accurate. 97.112.200.145 (talk) 02:01, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

User:Paul_Erik 97.112.200.145 (talk) 02:03, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

This would be User:Kompress0 again. One might think that after the recent, and lengthy, discussion they took part in at User talk:97.112.208.74 they would try something new, (like leaving this poor dead horse carcass alone... imho) - wolf 04:36, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Just understand the idea that facts > 'secondary sources' and the edit will be left alone. 97.112.200.145 (talk) 06:34, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Erm... no. Your "facts" = WP:OR, and WP:RS always trumps WP:OR. You clearly do not understand Misplaced Pages, (or maybe you do, but just like to stir the pot). Anyway, the fact is you are blocked and not supposed to be editing, not even here on this talk page. So, I think we're done here. - wolf 07:21, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

No, my facts are based on logic and reason. Appealing to a third party source is confirmation bias. 97.112.200.145 (talk) 14:55, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

August 2023

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My edit was factually correct, as it always has been. Blindly reverting it because of a 'third party source' is a great example as to why wikipedia is not considered a valid academic source 97.112.200.145 (talk) 14:56, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

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I addressed exactly why I was blocked. I made a factual edit that was continually reverted because of a 'third party source'. DC Comics is not, nor will it ever be a redundant acronym. 97.112.200.145 (talk) 15:06, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

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You are confused. You were not blocked because of whether or not DC Comics is a redundant acronym, you were blocked for trying to bludgeon your preferred version instead of establishing a consensus on the talk page. PhilKnight (talk) 16:54, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

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97.112.200.145 (talk) 15:06, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

This has been explained to you several times over. We go on what sources say, not your own personal opinion. Edit warring isn't justified no matter how right you think you are. — Czello 16:19, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

It wasn't personal opinion. I stated the fact that Detective Comics is the company while comics are a product they sell. Absolutely zero opinion anywhere in that. There's an identical in principle entry under NON examples with 'OPEC countries'. The C in OPEC stands for 'countries' but OPEC is the organization while countries are countries that belong to the organization

Understand now? 97.112.200.145 (talk) 19:29, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

To drive the point home, from the article;

"Similarly, "OPEC countries" are two or more member states of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, whereas "OPEC" by itself denotes the overall organization"

Now...

Similarly, "DC comics" are a product sold by the company 'Detective Comics', whereas "DC" by itself denotes the overall company

Do

You

Get

It

Now? 97.112.200.145 (talk) 19:36, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

We go by what sources say. See WP:TRUTH. Do you get it now? — Czello 21:26, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

So I can go edit the page on earth to say it's flat because there are flat earth websites?

Fact trumps secondary hearsay, all day.

I will edit it, I will continue to edit it, until that sinks in. 97.112.200.145 (talk) 21:31, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Oh, you don't get it. Ultimately if you keep editing you'll just keep getting blocked. And your unblock requests will always be denied if you're promising to resume your behaviour. There's only one way you can get your way, and it's on the talk page. Brute force never works. — Czello 21:38, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Yeah because blocking me has worked so well so far.

I've made my case, stating absolute indisputable facts, on the talk page. People just whine about sources

If brute force doesn't work you're just not using enough. 97.112.200.145 (talk) 21:48, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Well, yes, it has worked. The article still lists DC as it will continue to do so as you remain blocked now and in the future. But I'm sure the admin reviewing your block below will take your words into account. — Czello 21:53, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

It's still on there temporarily, by that logic then my method has worked because because it is also sporadically and temporarily removed.

Just value facts over 'muh sources' and there's no issue.

I'm being serious here. This is the PERFECT example of why absolutely no academic institute consider wikipedia a valid source. 97.112.200.145 (talk) 22:02, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Academic institutes should not consider Misplaced Pages as a valid source, see Misplaced Pages is not a reliable source. That is exactly correct. Misplaced Pages is a content aggregator, readers should examine the sources used directly, they should not trust Misplaced Pages blindly. 331dot (talk) 23:44, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Unblock request

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Request reason:

But if my edit had been left alone given the facts (Not opinion, facts) that I presented explaining definitively why it is NOT a redundant acronym, there would have been no need for a second edit. 97.112.200.145 (talk) 19:31, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

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This does not address the reason for the block. 331dot (talk) 23:45, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

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