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User talk:Matrix17/Archive 1 User talk:Matrix17/Archive 2

Reminder of headings

If you use headings in articles you need to use the form ==Text== or if it's a sub-heading ===Text 2===. There's a shortcut button above the edit field if you're unsure. If you look at the Manual of Style that's linked at the top of your discussion page you'll find more tips on how to edit. --Strangnet 06:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Archiving

You might like to look at using this bot to automate the archiving of your talk page: User:Werdnabot/Archiver/Howto.

Are you intending to archive the comments you have removed? Rich257 10:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Erica Johansson

I looked all over the place to find something that would suggest that Erica Johansson lives in Växjö. All I found was this article in Aftonbladet from March 13 2007 that says she lives in Lindome, Göteborg, which makes sense since she trains youths in Mölndals AIK according to her web page. Could it be Camilla Johansson you're thinking of? Camilla is a native and resident of Växjö, competing in triple jump (and sometimes long jump) for IFK Växjö. The former speaks with a Gothenburgian dialect while the latter speaks traditionally smålandish. --Strangnet 15:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Headings again

Please re-read the earlier message on formatting headings, and please do this in articles. Rich257 21:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Slow down

Before you start accusing me of putting speedy tags on everything, i suggest you take a good look at the comments which are on my talk page. You'll see that it is mostly frustrated vandals, who want to yell at me. So, please slow down a little, before you charge me with such things. Now, as far as your article goes, a single line does not make an article. If possible, try to add at least some reference, that way people like me won't be tempted to take a shot at it? As such, nothing personal. Andante1980 12:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I did check the articles, and now there are references. So, I'm not putting the speedy tags back. (Otherwise, I probably would have fired a ]. ;-) ) Oh, and from now I'll let you know if any of your articles appear unreferenced. Andante1980 12:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

"Null" edits

Hello Matrix17. Just wanted to let you know that it is not necessary whatsoever to go through articles simply removing blank lines as you did here and here. Such "null" edits simply clutter the article's history and needlessly tax server resources. Thanks and have a good one. -- Satori Son 13:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Steps for AfD

If you are going to keep on nominating articles for deletion, could you please at least follow the guide for AfD. Thanks. --Strangnet 14:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Suspected Bad Faith AfD nominations

They aren't funny. Please stop. Otherwise, I will notify the admins that you are purposefully vandalizing articles. --Mhking 15:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It appears that you are continuing to violate WP:POINT. I take it this is some form of amusement for you? --Mhking 15:24, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Again, it appears that you are purposefully violating the articles in question. --Mhking 15:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Obviously not only my opinion; all three of your AfDs have been speedily kept and closed. Thanks for sharing. --Mhking 15:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like you're the one who needs to cool it. Are you finished with this stretch of vandalism? --Mhking 15:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

No, not just me. But you won't see that. Just stop. Please. --Mhking 15:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

You should know that "Abuse of tags" is considered a form of vandalism. Nominating things for deletion which are obviously encyclopedic and notable is just a waste of your time, and other people's time. Trying to pretend that "that's your opinion, I have my opinion" is a lame excuse. Stop it. Sjakkalle (Check!) 15:34, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Do not archive ongoing discussions

You know better than to archive ongoing discussions on your talk page. Discuss the criticism instead of ignoring it. --Strangnet 15:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

¤~Persian Poet Gal 15:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Zingostar (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

How can i be blocked? because i nominated Paris Hilton and Jade Goody in good faith, no one can actually prove that i did it in bad faith. And the truth is that i did it in good faith I actually dont believe jade and paris have anything to do in Misplaced Pages. and the matter as resolved when people on wiki voted for it to be on the site. then strangnet,Mhking and sjakkalle started doing a mean intended discussion about me doing it in bad faith. Thats bullying. I want to be unblocked.

Decline reason:

Nobody's buying it. Clearly bad-faith nominations. — Yamla 15:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Yamla sorry that you feel that way. Must be hard to be so bitter.--Matrix17 15:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I have also reviewed the unblock request, decline the request, and endorse the block. Newyorkbrad 16:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

This is not about what i did this is personal against me. and that was all i needed to know, thanks*--Matrix17 16:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Personal about you? I never heard of you before half an hour ago. Newyorkbrad 16:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I also agree with the block, though I only ever heard of Matrix17 today. It's amazing how personally you are taking all of this. Must be hard to be so bitter. --Jaysweet 21:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

A suggestion

Take the 48 hours to cool down and read the links in the welcome banner at the top of your talkpage. The AfD's you started were for people who are clearly notable by the guidelines that the Misplaced Pages community has agreed upon for biographical articles. It might also be a good time to familiarize yourself with the Misplaced Pages Manual of Style. I'd also suggest that you refrain from being so combative with other editors. Just because you don't agree with them isn't an excuse for incivility. Stuff like that will just end up leading to a longer, or subsequent block. I doubt this block is personal against you. Your actions warranted it; that is why it was done.--Isotope23 16:03, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Your advice should not only be pointedto me but to all the others. i would be combatative if it wasnt for all the treathfull messages i recieve. thanks again and how can someone say that I didnt do it in good faith? thats personal anyway you see it. but no need to be discussed everyone here are very personal in their messages anyway..--Matrix17 16:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I have also seen what you have written about me Isotope to the one blocking me. Wasnt it you and strangnet how told people not to backstabb each other and that it is not good to write about others behind their backs. well your advices isnt anything you usually follows yourselfs here i can see. or as we say in sweden "kasta inte sten i glashus"--Matrix17 16:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

What I wrote was a matter of public record Matrix, I'm well aware that you can see it; the fact that anyone (yourself included) can view my edit history and see what I said doesn't really make it "behind your back" as you've put it (and if you have a diff where I told anyone not to "backstab", I'd love to see it). I stand by what I said there; it was a good block and one of the things that has frustrated many of the editors who have crossed paths with you is your complete unwillingness to try to follow even the simplest of style guidelines here. When informed or reminded about them, you tend to react defensively and start accusing everyone of having something against you. I'm not trying to be mean to you Matrix, but your attitude and unwillingness to follow the accepted guidelines here after you've been contributing here long enough to know them probably doesn't endear you to many other editors. You are under no obligation to follow my advice, but the point is that if you continue to edit the way you have been editing up to this point you will likely find yourself having the same problems you've had up until now with other editors. The fact that so many editors have taken the time to suggest that you follow certain style guidelines really should tell you something. I strongly suggest you take some time to familiarize yourself with the manual of style, policies, and guidelines here. It may take some time to do so, but you will likely have less friction with other editors mercilessly editing your work and will generally be a greater asset to the Misplaced Pages community.--Isotope23 16:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok by that message you have proven that you actually HAVE been backstabbing me, thanks.--Matrix17 21:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

You are not that important. kthx. JuJube 23:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I think Isoptope23 was very courteous and respectful towards you in his comment above, and instead of accepting his pointers and suggestions you answered back in much the same way as what got you into this situation in the first place. I think you could benefit from these few days of Misplaced Pages rest and check out the links at the top of this page, that we've frequently mentioned to you, and have a look around how others make use of Misplaced Pages and how they interact with each other. You have to understand that it has been frustrating for many of us who have tried to point you in the right direction, to only get comments like the ones you've left above back as answers, or just seeing our comments here archived without further action. At some point it becomes perceived that what you do is just for spite, which you have a great opportunity to prove is not the case when you return. --Strangnet 00:05, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

A Word of Encouragement

Matrix17, I am sorry that you seem to be having a difficult time on Misplaced Pages. From my own brief review of your edit history, it would seem that perhaps your "Misplaced Pages Experience" started out on the wrong foot. It appears that several articles you wrote early on were nominated for deletion and that you received, what you may have considered, a lot of criticism in your early days as an editor. Although I've never had an article I wrote deleted, I can imagine that it must be a confusing and upsetting experience, particularly for a new user - and especially if you have any sort of personal connection to the article's subject matter. You need to understand that "notability" decisions really aren't personal. Reviewing your talk page history, I can understand how a new editor might feel a little "picked on" or "attacked". To my mind, you may have been a victim of WP:BITE. Unfortunately, it seems that your response has been to Bite Back! LOL!!! That really isn't the answer.

It seems to me that Isotope23, Strangnet and others really are only trying to help you. It may be difficult to see that when some editors are chiming in with unneccessary caddy remarks. There is a lot to learn on Misplaced Pages and it can take a new user quite a few months to get a handle on it all. Maybe you need to slow down a little bit and take the time to read up on Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Wikipedians are encouraged to "be bold" - but I'm not sure that's always the best advice for newer users! LOL! If someone offers you "policy related" advice on your talk page it would probably save you alot of headaches if, moving forward, you acknowlege and respond positively to their advice. Rather than thinking of it as "criticism" - try to look at it as well intentioned "helpful advice".

I sincerely hope that you will take Strangnet up on his/her suggestion and try to turn this whole thing around when you return. You've made many valuable edits, and you certainly have the potential to become a valuable member of the community. There are a lot of nice people here, who I'm sure you'll enjoy working with. It's up to you! If you ever need any help or advice, please feel free to contact me via my talk page. Keep your chin up! Best Wishes! Cleo123 06:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)