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| * Paying editors is one of those ideas that seems "fine" (barely) in theory but would be virtually impossible to implement in any kind of equitable way. <span style="color:green">](he/him)<sup>]</sup></span> 11:45, 5 September 2023 (UTC) | * Paying editors is one of those ideas that seems "fine" (barely) in theory but would be virtually impossible to implement in any kind of equitable way. <span style="color:green">](he/him)<sup>]</sup></span> 11:45, 5 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
| *:We could still hire a bunch of extra programmers if nothing else. Just because content needs to be volunteer to ensure neutrality, doesn't mean WP:PHAB needs to be the same way. ]] 12:07, 5 September 2023 (UTC) | *:We could still hire a bunch of extra programmers if nothing else. Just because content needs to be volunteer to ensure neutrality, doesn't mean WP:PHAB needs to be the same way. ]] 12:07, 5 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
| *Please note that The Telegraph column linked here contains numerous inaccuracies. For background, before the article was published, our team provided a detailed response to questions from the reporter. Unfortunately, no part of the Foundation's statement was included in the published piece. This is not the first time that, despite providing the author with information and answering their questions, they have misrepresented how the Foundation works. Since the piece was published last Monday, our team has contacted The Telegraph requesting an immediate correction on several points related to the Foundation, including (in summary): | |||
| ::- It is misleading to say that just 2% of Misplaced Pages's revenue goes to hosting costs. Data centers and technical infrastructure require significant staffing to operate and maintain, in addition to other equipment and operating costs. Nearly half (48.7% or $86.1 million) of is spent directly on technical infrastructure.<br> | |||
| ::- Comparing Misplaced Pages's operating expenses now with 2010 numbers is a false equivalent, given we now have the same (if not higher) levels of traffic as many other for-profit internet companies at a fraction of the budget and staffing. <br> | |||
| ::- The is not funded through the Wikimedia Endowment. It is a one-time fund of $4.5 million that is still being allocated.<br> | |||
| ::- The is a permanent safekeeping fund, and the full value of the fund is not available for use. <br> | |||
| ::- The Foundation does not apply fundraising overruns intended to support Foundation operating costs to the Endowment.<br> | |||
| ::- The article mischaracterizes Foundation spending and accountability, misrepresenting the facts. As we told the reporter before the article was published, our annual operating budget in FY 2022-23 was $175 million. The Board of Trustees sets our annual budget. The Wikimedia Foundation has long-followed industry best practices for nonprofits and has consistently received the highest ratings by nonprofit groups like for financial efficiency and transparency. | |||
| ] (]) 17:27, 5 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ===Katherine Maher=== | ===Katherine Maher=== | ||
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Hunter Biden
- Interesting that there was no discussion of the administrators being "in kahoots" with article subjects when Vivek Ramaswamy was revealed to have hired people to scrub his Misplaced Pages page a couple weeks ago. I wonder what the difference could possibly be for such esteemed sources like The Federalist to bring this issue up. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him) 11:37, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Orlowski
- The Orlowski piece is pretty spot on. Regardless of how much you may support a social or political cause, readers who support it too should donate to that cause. What people are donating to here is this cause, with the reasonable expectation this is what their money will be used for. Even paying zillion dollar golden parachutes for high level employees can at least somehow be connected back to the project, even if it's not the most responsible use of funds.This right here, increased access to free knowledge, is supposed to be the social justice cause. Many people don't have access to a library. Even in developed parts of the world like the US, we've got people banning books and even banning libraries. So who fills that gap? I dunno, probably the first friggin thing that shows up when you google basically anything. GMG 10:56, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
- This is one of the reasons why I advise people to not give money to the WMF anymore. They are better off donating time by editing any of the projects. However, I disagree with Orlowski about contributors being paid; that's a terrible idea. Ciridae (talk) 08:42, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Paying editors is one of those ideas that seems "fine" (barely) in theory but would be virtually impossible to implement in any kind of equitable way. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him) 11:45, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- We could still hire a bunch of extra programmers if nothing else. Just because content needs to be volunteer to ensure neutrality, doesn't mean WP:PHAB needs to be the same way. GMG 12:07, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Please note that The Telegraph column linked here contains numerous inaccuracies. For background, before the article was published, our team provided a detailed response to questions from the reporter. Unfortunately, no part of the Foundation's statement was included in the published piece. This is not the first time that, despite providing the author with information and answering their questions, they have misrepresented how the Foundation works. Since the piece was published last Monday, our team has contacted The Telegraph requesting an immediate correction on several points related to the Foundation, including (in summary):
- - It is misleading to say that just 2% of Misplaced Pages's revenue goes to hosting costs. Data centers and technical infrastructure require significant staffing to operate and maintain, in addition to other equipment and operating costs. Nearly half (48.7% or $86.1 million) of our budget is spent directly on technical infrastructure.
- - Comparing Misplaced Pages's operating expenses now with 2010 numbers is a false equivalent, given we now have the same (if not higher) levels of traffic as many other for-profit internet companies at a fraction of the budget and staffing.
- - The Knowledge Equity Fund is not funded through the Wikimedia Endowment. It is a one-time fund of $4.5 million that is still being allocated.
- - The Wikimedia Endowment is a permanent safekeeping fund, and the full value of the fund is not available for use.
- - The Foundation does not apply fundraising overruns intended to support Foundation operating costs to the Endowment.
- - The article mischaracterizes Foundation spending and accountability, misrepresenting the facts. As we told the reporter before the article was published, our annual operating budget in FY 2022-23 was $175 million. The Board of Trustees sets our annual budget. The Wikimedia Foundation has long-followed industry best practices for nonprofits and has consistently received the highest ratings by nonprofit groups like Charity Navigator for financial efficiency and transparency.
- - It is misleading to say that just 2% of Misplaced Pages's revenue goes to hosting costs. Data centers and technical infrastructure require significant staffing to operate and maintain, in addition to other equipment and operating costs. Nearly half (48.7% or $86.1 million) of our budget is spent directly on technical infrastructure.
LDickinson (WMF) (talk) 17:27, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Katherine Maher
I'm glad for her, but... world tour early 2022? In the middle of COVID?! Adam Cuerden Has about 8.5% of all FPs. 08:30, 4 September 2023 (UTC)