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Deletion of Unofficial Rugby Union Championship.

Hi there. Stupid question, when a page is deleted it's deleted for good, there's no trace of it anywhere, is there? The reason I ask is because I'm a member of an association who want to lobby the IRB to have a international trophy modelled on the Ranfurly Shield system and that page was deleted before we could add it to the dossier. I understand why it was deleted but it's a pity, could have been very helpful to us. Saebhiar Adishatz 14:09, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

If you want to access the deleted content of an article, I can restore it for you. Whether it will have any value in an administrative proceeding is another question. The article Unofficial Rugby Union Championship (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has never existed, though. Can you provide the exact title of the article you want, please? Sandstein 14:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Deleted Article

I'm leaving you a message because I think the user Realkyhick recommended this article for deletion in an unsubstantiated manner. I told that user this:

We're really not trying to abuse the system here. The Government is not looking for free advertising. They've been a group for years, and are of notability on the CT shoreline. You definitely can't find the band on google if you search for alternative, CT, and the Gov, because the heading of Thegov.net does not include any of that as a description. Still don't see what the problem is. The local music scene is just as notable as the national, famous circuit, and just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean its not worth having an article about.

Also, I've just added a bit of information to each that I was saving for the WIKI of the PCIA. The band acts as a sort of spokesman for the youth advocacy group PCIA, which is how I know them. They certainly DO exist, and, again, if you google search a string of words, you won't find what you're looking for.

Also, according to the guidelines posted, "A mere claim of notability, even if contested, may avoid deletion under A7 and require a full Article for Deletion process to determine if the subject of the article is notable."

I'd like to contest this deletion on the grounds of the previously mentioned claims of notability, and would like to assert that this user is not involved in the Connecticut music and political advocacy community, and, as I am, I qualify as a better source of information regarding their notability.

which asserts the importance of the band in the independent music scene of CT, and their involvement in a local Youth Advocacy group. I obviously couldn't convince the other user with that, but what more can be done to prove notability? That user is from alabama, and not CT. I , however am from CT, and know enough about the topic to contribute an article. Thend 15:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC)Thend

Please specify what article you are talking about by providing a link to it, like this. Sandstein 16:38, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Note

Intervening talk threads archived. Sandstein 18:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

The articles have already been merged

I checked and the two articles were merged so I simply deleted older unnecessary information, sorry for trying to make it easier.

Since the merger has already happened would you be so kind as to fix it and delete the unnecessary page,

like I tried to...

Meissmart 20:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Which articles do you mean? Sandstein 20:08, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Help

Hello Sandstein, please review this , I assume it as a very offensive, close to menace or intimidation. ≈Tulkolahten≈ 10:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Indef blocked per WP:NLT; see User talk:Dr. Steller. Sandstein 10:49, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Vegetto's Response

Hi! I appreciate the response to the issue back on the admin board. However, i would like to ensure that if i were to engage in a discussion with "my fellow editors", i will not be ridiculed or ignored. Should this happen, then i will stay in the same situation i am in now, with no progress made whatsoever. I'd like you to assist me in this one last situation. Think you can help?

Muchas Gracias! Gooden 14:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I can't ensure that, and I can't assist you in getting the result you want. That's up to you. It depends on how politely and reasonably you argue, I guess. Assume good faith and don't simply think you are being ridiculed just because other editors don't agree with you. If you alone propose something and everyone else disagrees, you have to accept that it won't happen. However, if others are being incivil or abusive - without provocation, mind you - feel free to tell me and I'll take a look at it. Sandstein 17:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

WikiBeNiceWiki and PoolGuy

I was hoping that Ohnoitsjaime was going to be around, as I think he know more about this user, but the block was based on a string of account creations: User:WikiMightyWiki is created at 00:14 and blocked at 00:18 as a sock of User:PoolGuy, User:WikiFineWiki is created at 00:19, posts on jaime's talk admitting to being sockpuppet, and is blocked at 00:22 by me, WikiBeNiceWiki is created at 00:30, blocked by me at 00:33 based on the patterns in the username. This was somewhat confirmed by User:Mistreatedhere's post here and here (he also opened an ArbCom case on Jaime). That user is blocked by me, only to be replaced by User:DoesBeingAnAdminMakeYouADick, User:AllYouHaveToDoIsBeNice, and apparently user:NoOffenseBut, who showed up after I went out. If you think I misjudged, by all means unblock, but it seems likely to me. Natalie 16:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

BTW, sorry I didn't get you this info sooner. I didn't see the unblock request or I would have posted it there. Natalie 16:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

That makes perfect sense, thanks. Unblock declined. Sandstein 17:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

So if a person blocks me for no reason and I create a new account, somehow I did something wrong. Looks to me like ohnoisjaime and erin were going block happy. I think I should be unblocked don't you?NoOffenseBut 17:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

If only all sockpuppets of blocked users would be so considerately announcing themselves. Blocked. Sandstein 17:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

From what I can tell, this particular person is using a dynamic IP he/she can reset. Jamie mentioned filing a checkuser, I guess to find out the ISP and perhaps inform them. You may want to ask him about that. In the meantime, it's mighty convenient that he/she keeps announcing the sockpuppets, but it certainly would be easier to prevent their creation in the first place. Natalie 19:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

A checkuser is a very good idea; I helped deal with an extremely abusive sockpuppeteer sometime ago. That user didn't stop until a range blocked was introduced (and it's still likely that the user is around, just keeping quiet). Users like PoolGuy/WikiBeNiceWiki, are not likely back down simply by blocking the accounts. Acalamari 01:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Just what are you trying to do? I get blocked by someone just being a dick, and now I create a new account to use Misplaced Pages, and the likes of you and Natalie jump in and start going block happy. Why? Do you even know what you are blocking me for? I sure don't.

If you don't like me creating accounts, don't block the one I have. If you didn't block I wouldn't create another account, I could use mine. Why are doing that? It does not make sennse. It does not work. It just blocks IPs for other wikipedians. Maybe you should think about the damage your actions are doin to the project. First ohnoitsjaime does it, then Natalie, now you jump in. Is that what they teach you in Admin school? Be mean? Jeez.JustWhat 01:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

confusion

You left me a message but I have no idea what it's about. Marshmellow Mind 20:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Edits such as this one or this one are vandalism. Stop it. Sandstein 20:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

R9tgokunks

Following previous incidents and such. R9tgokunks is a generally disruptive editor, who likes to rush in without thinking. Often ruthlessly attack other users, and engage in 3RR. Seeing that you blocked him. I am informing you that I was torn apart in a previous incident, between him, and another disruptive editor called User:LUCPOL who he I fear is bullying. I fear though, R9tgokunks has been slightly disruptive again, and if you want I will keep an eye on his contributions, and report any trouble. Regards. Retiono Virginian 21:47, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm not aware of the more recent conflict you refer to. As far as I'm concerned, you don't need to watch this user on my behalf, but do feel free to report any blockable misbehaviour to me or to WP:ANI. Sandstein 22:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

InvaderSora

Please unblock me. -Invadersora — Preceding unsigned comment added by InvaderSora (talk • contribs) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.163.132.236 (talk • contribs)

No. Do not evade your block by editing anonymously. Sandstein 16:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I sort of have to. its unfair to block me for aother week because i was using the unblock template to expand further on ym reason for unbcok. 64.175.37.54 00:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

No, kid, you do not "have to". What you do have to is to obey your block, the reason of which has been explained to you several times. I will reset your block again. If you evade it once again, I will extend it. If you evade it yet again, I will block you indefinitely. This is your last chance to obey Misplaced Pages's rules and participate constructively in the project. Use it. Sandstein 05:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Dutch (people)

User Rex Germanus has recommenced editing at Dutch (people) - formerly Dutch (ethnic group) as his block expired. He appears to have violated the three-revert rule, and has again adopted an agressive tone on the talk page. Since you reviewed this before, I would aks you to review the current state of affairs.Paul111 17:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

This appears to be a complicated content issue. Please do the following:

1. On the talk page of Rex Germanus (talk · contribs) please state, with diffs, how exactly you think that user has violated Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Ulritz, WP:3RR or any Misplaced Pages policy.
2. Invite him to comment on your complaint (with a link to this thread).
3. Then notify me again, in this thread, once he has responded to your complaint, or if he has not responded in a reasonable amount of time, and I will determine whether administrative sanctions are required.

I will not process your request unless you follow these rules of procedure. Sandstein 18:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I did this, but another user has now entered the issue, in defence of Rex Germanus. In a tit--for-tat move, he has asked you to impose a revert parole on me, even though this is a sole taks of the Arbitration Committee. As a result, I now need to defend myself on the talk page of another user, against complaints by a third user, which have not gone through any proper procedure. I suggest you limit the discussion to one place and two parties.Paul111 12:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I see that another admin has now imposed sanctions, which means that I'll have to consider this request to be moot. Sandstein 13:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

While it is not immediately relevant to the above request, you may be interested in this comment to FutPer: User_talk:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise#Nationalist_material_on_Wikipedia -- Paul111 11:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Deleting things on my userpage

You deleted material from my userpage for what you believe to be unrelated content, which was simply my explaining my POV for the benefit of other Wikipedians. I'm looking at your userpage. How is this related to Misplaced Pages? "Apart from being a Wikipedian and a jurist, I am also a bicyclist, a classical liberal, an author and a lieutenant in the Swiss Army." Billy Ego 19:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Per WP:UP,

"Some people add information about themselves as well, possibly including contact information (email, instant messaging, etc), a photograph, their real name, their location, information about their areas of expertise and interest, likes and dislikes, homepages, and so forth."

However, what's not allowed is

"Extensive personal opinions on matters unrelated to Misplaced Pages, ... Other non-encyclopedic material ... Polemical statements" (my emphasis).

As you can see, one sentence of personal information is perfectly permissible (and normal), but several pages of political opinions are not. It's a matter of proportion. That's why I've not also deleted your fascism userboxes and your eagle picture: some POV information is permissible, but don't overdo it. Sandstein 19:08, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, it looks like I overwrote your edits to the lead section

Sorry, I seem to have overwritten your edits to the lead section of User:The Transhumanist/Virtual classroom/Yuser, on fighting link spam. I will try to un-do the damage I caused. Because I got an edit conflict, I had edited some text in an external editor, and when I pasted it back in, the lead section had changed some more in the meantime. --Teratornis 22:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

This Is Stevenstone93

Sandstein, I would like to thank you for your help and time for getting me unblocked. I truly appreciate your cooperation in getting me off the hook here. I will contribute to the Misplaced Pages Project and not solely just my article, but is it still OK to make an edit or two here and there on my own page? Once Again Thanks, --- Steven Suttles Stone

You're welcome. Of course you may edit your user page, but keep it to a minimum, yes? What we need to see from you now is involvement in the encyclopedia. That is, the articles. This is why we are here. Sandstein 05:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

re: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Mark Conner

You recently tagged this article for deletion under speedy-deletion case A7. The speedy-deletion was challenged in good faith. The page has been temporarily restored and listed to AFD for community discussion. You may want to participate in the discussion. Rossami (talk) 05:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but I just put {{bio-notability}} on it. Sandstein 18:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

BZ

You might want to keep an eye on User:BZ(Bruno Zollinger) -- after returning from the block for inappropriate Talk page use, which he passed by engaging in irrelevant discussions on his own Talk page, his first edit was another round of soapboxing and irrelevant personal opinion. I left another chat warning for him, but this seems unlikely to change his behavior. (I'd have posted this at WP:ANI, but the prior BZ topic has already been archived.) -- Rbellin|Talk 14:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes. I see you warned him, next time I'll indefblock him as advertised. And I'll warn his strange companion, Jahn Henne (talk · contribs). Sandstein 18:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Billy Ego: picture

I (and I am sure many other editors) also find the picture on his user page quite offensive. My father and his pals were paratroops who suffered horribly in WW2 fighting that. Is there any chance of removing the picture? Thanks if you can help. MarkThomas 20:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

If it were a Nazi symbol, yes, it would be inflammatory. However, File:Aigle-napoleonienne-p1030180.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) is a Napoleonic aquila, which I assume was not present on WWII battlefields. Incidentally, Cloveoil is right: do not harrass other editors on their talk pages, even fascists. Sandstein 20:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Good Evening

I just wanted to let you know that DarzieP has updated his talk page. Please look at it. I'd like you to reconsider as he's not a bad guy. He is my brother after all.

I think it's done

Thank you for your help.

I've finished my main copy-edit of User:The Transhumanist/Virtual classroom/Yuser, on fighting link spam. Please take a look, and touch-up anything that needs it. It goes live on Wednesday (tomorrow). The Transhumanist   22:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

On 25 March, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Source Columba, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Carabinieri 09:35, 25 March 2007 (UTC)