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	: You're right, the map does need changed (I don't know how to do it though). I think that the reason Israel is labeled as having a diaspora is because of the Bukharian Jews, who previously lived in Uzbekistan (many born in Bukhara) but are not ethnically Uzbek (their language is also closer to Tajik than Uzbek).-] (]) 14:21, 11 September 2023 (UTC)		: You're right, the map does need changed (I don't know how to do it though). I think that the reason Israel is labeled as having a diaspora is because of the Bukharian Jews, who previously lived in Uzbekistan (many born in Bukhara) but are not ethnically Uzbek (their language is also closer to Tajik than Uzbek).-] (]) 14:21, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
	:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> Specifically, please provide sources supporting the assertions about S.A., China, Afghanistan, and Pakistan to indicate that these nations do in fact have significant Uzbek diaspora communities (I'm assuming sources showing the absence of such a community in Israel may be hard to provide, given that this is an assertion of a negative). -- ] (]) 02:44, 5 October 2023 (UTC)		:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> Specifically, please provide sources supporting the assertions about S.A., China, Afghanistan, and Pakistan to indicate that these nations do in fact have significant Uzbek diaspora communities (I'm assuming sources showing the absence of such a community in Israel may be hard to provide, given that this is an assertion of a negative). -- ] (]) 02:44, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
			::Please provide a single source saying there is a substantial population of ethnic Uzbeks (not Bukharain Jews) in Israel or edit the map to reflect the lack of them.--] (]) 12:38, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

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Uzbeks are not "found," they live in other countries. Improper or outdated, non-neutral tone.

The second sentence of this article treats the subject of the article, i.e. the Uzbek people, as something to be found. It states: "They comprise the majority population of Uzbekistan but are also found as a minority group in: Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Russia, and China." Found by whom? This is not written in a neutral language; instead, it applies a discoverer/the discovered perspective and uses outdated language which is inappropriate when discussing a group of people, especially in this case because the article then proceeds to describe the Uzbek peoples' history and international relations spanning thousands of years. A more proper and concise way to convey the idea that Uzbeks live elsewhere as a minority group is just to say "live," like this: "They comprise the majority population of Uzbekistan but also live as a minority group in Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Russia, and China." No colon needed either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.3.138.230 (talk • contribs) 05:48, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

sign your posts with four tildas (~ ) ... "found" is completely proper English.50.111.52.57 (talk) 10:08, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

You could try adding the unsigned template yourself. Aaron Liu (talk) 07:05, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

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Please include this results into the section "genetics":

A genetic study by Seidualy et al. 2020 found that the Uzbeks derive about ~45% of their ancestry from East Asian-related populations, ~40% from West-Eurasian (European-related) populations, and ~15% from indigenous South Asian populations (samplified by Andamanese, which are often used as proxy for indigenous South Asian ancestry). Overall, the Uzbeks are closest to other Central Asian populations, such as Kazakhs, Kalmyks, and Kyrgyz people.

Thank you.-103.148.157.148 (talk) 10:11, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.In particular, which genetics section? Are you attempting to create a new section? If so, then where? Aaron Liu (talk) 07:09, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

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Add the Uzbek diaspora map image to the infobox.

File:Map of the Uzbekhs Diaspora in the World.svg

201.71.0.220 (talk) 22:11, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Done EpicPupper (talk) 23:02, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

There are some glaring mistakes on this map. Saudi Arabia isn't highlighted despite having a sizeable Uzbek minority, while Israel is highlighted despite no ethnic Uzbeks living there. Blimpsk (talk) 18:32, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect map.

Why is Israel highlighted? there are 0 Uzbeks living in Israel, and no Bukharian Jews aren't Uzbeks. Blimpsk (talk) 01:28, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Exactly. Bukharian Jews are one of the many ethnic minority communities that have inhabited Uzbekistan. Counting Bukharian Jews in Israel as Uzbek diaspora is like counting Russians born in Uzbekistan who now live in Russia as part of the Uzbek diaspora (they're also not).-KazyKazyKazakhstan (talk) 16:59, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

The diaspora map should either be removed or edited

There are multiple inaccuracies in this so-called "Uzbek diaspora" map - some countries with actual Uzbek diaspora communities are completely omitted (for example Saudi Arabia and China) while some countries that have no known local Uzbek community are highlighted (for example Israel). As the map does not accurately reflect the worldwide Uzbek diaspora it should be removed until a proper edit is made. Blimpsk (talk) 09:58, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

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The main article photo should be changed. There are multiple inaccuracies in this so-called "Uzbek diaspora" map - some countries with actual Uzbek diaspora communities are completely omitted (for example Saudi Arabia, China, Afhganistan and Pakistan) while some countries that have no known local Uzbek community are highlighted (for example Israel). As the map does not accurately reflect the worldwide Uzbek diaspora it should be removed until a proper edit is made.

Blimpsk (talk) 10:04, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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You're right, the map does need changed (I don't know how to do it though). I think that the reason Israel is labeled as having a diaspora is because of the Bukharian Jews, who previously lived in Uzbekistan (many born in Bukhara) but are not ethnically Uzbek (their language is also closer to Tajik than Uzbek).-KazyKazyKazakhstan (talk) 14:21, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Specifically, please provide sources supporting the assertions about S.A., China, Afghanistan, and Pakistan to indicate that these nations do in fact have significant Uzbek diaspora communities (I'm assuming sources showing the absence of such a community in Israel may be hard to provide, given that this is an assertion of a negative). -- Pinchme123 (talk) 02:44, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Please provide a single source saying there is a substantial population of ethnic Uzbeks (not Bukharain Jews) in Israel or edit the map to reflect the lack of them.--KazyKazyKazakhstan (talk) 12:38, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

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